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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 23:00:00 GMT
I used to embrace them... See them as an exciting evolution of movie making.
Now I see them as more of a necessary evil. Even when I like the characters themselves I still find them to be flimsy looking with bad screen presence. The only reason I accept them is because I know that, in a lot of cases, practical FX just wouldn't work in their place.
What say you?
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jun 6, 2018 23:03:11 GMT
Andy Serkis will disagree with you. |
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Post by ck100 on Jun 6, 2018 23:29:46 GMT
I miss guys like Stan Winston and Rick Baker.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jun 6, 2018 23:31:53 GMT
I miss guys like Stan Winston and Rick Baker.  |
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Post by politicidal on Jun 7, 2018 0:12:28 GMT
I'm not against them but if makeup and other practical means would make better sense, I'd prefer it.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 7, 2018 0:39:53 GMT
I'm not against the use of CGI...
In order to make some movies or scenes it is almost a necessity... However...
I think: CGI looks horrible when seen up close, but from a far distance, it doesn't look much different than a long camera shot of a real object.
While I prefer seeing live action over CGI...
As long as a wisely chosen mix of techniques and editing has been used to tell the story.... I'm fine with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 1:36:23 GMT
I miss guys like Stan Winston and Rick Baker. How about Harryhausen? |
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Post by ck100 on Jun 7, 2018 1:46:01 GMT
I miss guys like Stan Winston and Rick Baker. How about Harryhausen? You'll have to forgive me, but I'm not really familiar with his work. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 1:50:05 GMT
You'll have to forgive me, but I'm not really familiar with his work. He was a master of stop-motion creatures. I recently marathoned a bunch of movies featuring his work. They gave me a new appreciation for old school practical FX... |
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Post by ck100 on Jun 7, 2018 1:52:59 GMT
You'll have to forgive me, but I'm not really familiar with his work. He was a master of stop-motion creatures. I recently marathoned a bunch of movies featuring his work. They gave me a new appreciation for old school practical FX...
Well it's certainly possible that I've seen his work before.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 5:21:44 GMT
He was a master of stop-motion creatures. I recently marathoned a bunch of movies featuring his work. They gave me a new appreciation for old school practical FX...
Well it's certainly possible that I've seen his work before.
Jason and the Argonauts 20 Million Miles to Earth Clash of the Titans The Sinbad Trilogy |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 7, 2018 5:22:55 GMT
Best to have a mix of techniques where possible.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 7, 2018 5:29:55 GMT
the new planet of apes series, you forget they are cgi characters
maybe cause the human characters are underwritten
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 7, 2018 13:34:00 GMT
I miss guys like Stan Winston and Rick Baker. How about Harryhausen? Superior to CGI in everyway. No one ever forgets his Medusa, Talos, the Hydra, the Skeleton, etc. Who remembers any particular CGI characters except maybe Gollum? |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 7, 2018 14:58:25 GMT
Superior to CGI in everyway. No one ever forgets his Medusa, Talos, the Hydra, the Skeleton, etc. Who remembers any particular CGI characters except maybe Gollum? The Jurassic Park dinos. That Brachiosaurus scene is still iconic. |
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 7, 2018 15:05:38 GMT
Superior to CGI in everyway. No one ever forgets his Medusa, Talos, the Hydra, the Skeleton, etc. Who remembers any particular CGI characters except maybe Gollum? The Jurassic Park dinos. That Brachiosaurus scene is still iconic. True, that was very good CGI. Strange that 25 years later it hasn't really been improved on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 17:48:02 GMT
My philosophy on CGI is only use it when necessary.
Why not use a mix of practical effects and CGI? Killer Croc in "Suicide Squad" is a brilliant example of this. They made his latex mask, and scales etc.. Then they CGi'd the slimy gloss and eye movements to make it look fluid. If they had just CGI'd his whole head, it would have looked fake.
I think doing something similar with the Ninja Turtles would work great. Use suits like the 1990 TMNT film, and then CGI the slimy gloss, add details in the skin/shell etc... Move the mouth and eyes with CGI. However, the far away shots of them kicking and moving would be real and more fluid/realistic.
Instead of Obviously cgi'd monsters. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 17:58:52 GMT
Superior to CGI in everyway. No one ever forgets his Medusa, Talos, the Hydra, the Skeleton, etc. Who remembers any particular CGI characters except maybe Gollum? The Jurassic Park dinos. That Brachiosaurus scene is still iconic. Don't forget though that most of them were practical FX. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 18:01:51 GMT
Superior to CGI in everyway. No one ever forgets his Medusa, Talos, the Hydra, the Skeleton, etc. Who remembers any particular CGI characters except maybe Gollum? Watching his movies recently for the first time gave me a massive new appreciation for practical FX and made me lament the fact that they're largely extinct. The way those creatures moved and had such a powerful screen presence, and were filled with character and personality! You rarely see anything like that with CG creatures. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 7, 2018 18:08:34 GMT
The Jurassic Park dinos. That Brachiosaurus scene is still iconic. Don't forget though that most of them were practical FX. Absolutely. Which is why I pointed out one scene that was pure CGI. Another iconic moment is the T-Rex/Raptor battle at the end. Also pure CGI. The movie really was a great blend of practical and computer effects. Spielberg knew how to use technology to enhance his scenes, not distract from them. |
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