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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 7, 2018 18:35:42 GMT
Spielberg wanted to use only mechanical figures but he couldnt get all the shots he wanted so he was forced to use some stop motion animation.
The CGI solution came along mid production and Spielberg had to be convinced by the Fx supervisor to keep the stop motion unit because their knowledge of animal motion was superior to the cgi unit.
This is why all the pre-planned shots have a more heavy and weighty quality since the stop motion animators did those and were matching them to the mechanical puppets. The final shots in the rotunda were done by the cgi animators-which is why they are a little less weighty (which is one of the triggers for detecting CGI-if the characters do not move with real world weight, they come across as fake or cartoon like).
Compared to a Harryhausen film like the Valley of Gwangi, Jurassic Park does not have very much in the way of dino shots. And he did all the work by himself.
Gwangi has about 19 minutes of animation for a 95 minute film.
JP has 7 minutes of CGI animation for a 2 hour running time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 18:45:03 GMT
Spielberg wanted to use only mechanical figures but he couldnt get all the shots he wanted so he was forced to use some stop motion animation. The CGI solution came along mid production and Spielberg had to be convinced by the Fx supervisor to keep the stop motion unit because their knowledge of animal motion was superior to the cgi unit. This is why all the pre-planned shots have a more heavy and weighty quality since the stop motion animators did those and were matching them to the mechanical puppets. The final shots in the rotunda were done by the cgi animators-which is why they are a little less weighty (which is one of the triggers for detecting CGI-if the characters do not move with real world weight, they come across as fake or cartoon like). Compared to a Harryhausen film like the Valley of Gwangi, Jurassic Park does not have very much in the way of dino shots. And he did all the work by himself. Gwangi has about 19 minutes of animation for a 95 minute film. JP has 7 minutes of CGI animation for a 2 hour running time. Whatever the case, by accident or whatever. It turned out nearly perfect. I'm surprised other directors don't use this as a blueprint for blending practical effects with CG. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 7, 2018 18:45:05 GMT
Depends on who is making them and the context.
For example, I think having Thanos next to anything real looks ridiculous.
However, Gollum from years ago and I assume using weaker specs was never anything but an additional integrated character in the story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 18:48:00 GMT
Depends on who is making them and the context. For example, I think having Thanos next to anything real looks ridiculous. However, Gollum from years ago and I assume using weaker specs was never anything but an additional integrated character in the story. Agreed. Although I think Thanos looks even worse when he's in front of green screen. I hate seeing CGI characters in front of CGi backgrounds lit by artificial digital lighting. At least when he's in Wakanda he looks like he's more naturally "lit". |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 7, 2018 18:50:55 GMT
Whatever the case, by accident or whatever. It turned out nearly perfect. I'm surprised other directors don't use this as a blueprint for blending practical effects with CG. Well, the problem is that the knowledge of stop motion animators was not carried over into future films (JP 1-3 had good FX but I think they maintained the stop motion animator supervision for all three). By contrast Dragonheart only used the stop motion crew for design--so the animation is much much more cartoony. Starship Troopers has great CGI-because the stop motion animators were in charge for the whole thing. On King Kong 2005, the animators were primarily CGI trained (or rather 2d trained) so they have a much more cartoonish approach. My big complaint with Jurassic Park is that because Spielberg had an apparent bias against stop motion (since it would put more control in the hands of the animators and isn't as fun as working with a full size mechanical puppet) much of the story was designed around the raptors. In the sequels this was changed because when it comes to dinosaurs, bigger is definitely better. |
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