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Post by snsurone on Jun 9, 2018 18:48:00 GMT
The death of Chef and TV personality Anthony Bourdin, following on the heels of the death of designer Kate Spade--both by their own hands--is deeply disturbing.
It shows how pervasive mental illness can be, even among those who seem to "have it all".
The biggest tragedy is that there were no visible signs of their depression.
In fact, Spade had seen therapists and was under medication, but apparently, they did no good in the long run.
What's worse is that mental illness is no longer as stigmatized as it was decades ago.
For that, I credit actress Patty Duke, who publicly came out with her bi-polar disease.
Personally, I have little faith in shrinks.
In the past 20 years, I've seen four therapists, and without exception, they were more concerned with furthering their own careers than in helping me.
Maybe it was the same with Bourdin, Spade, and other people whose personal demons were so overpowering, that their only relief was to end their own lives.
That might also have been the case with Robin Williams four years ago.
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Post by koskiewicz on Jun 10, 2018 15:38:19 GMT
We may never know for sure, but Marilyn Monroe seemingly committed suicide. Then there was Albert Dekker in a kinky outfit and Peg Entwistle who supposedly did a swan dive off of the "Hollywoodland" sign.
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Post by mattgarth on Jun 10, 2018 16:13:00 GMT
James Cardwell -- dead by his own hand at age 32 in 1954.
Premiered to acclaim at age 22 in 1944 as the oldest of the wartime heroic brothers in THE FIGHTING SULLIVANS.
Meaningful roles in postwar films A WALK IN THE SUN and HE WALKED BY NIGHT.
But further film roles were scarce and he grew depressed about his dwindling career.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 10, 2018 17:14:39 GMT
And then there are former child stars, such as Rusty Hamer, Dana Plato, and Jonathan Brandeis, whose careers ended when they grew up. and they were unable to move on with their lives.
So, they killed themselves.
Former child stars Paul Peterson and Jay North started an organization called "A Minor Concern" whose goal is to help juvenile actors cope with the end of their stardom.
I really don't know how successful it is, as there have been suicides since its inception, for example, one of the twins who were in EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 10, 2018 17:53:51 GMT
Sometimes even so-called celebrities just get tired of life. Danish born Karl Dane came to America after a difficult childhood. He, at first, was successful in silent films but gave it up. After his wife and child died during birth, he returned to movies and was again successful, mainly known as John Gilbert’s best friend in “The Big Parade” and for the 1926 “The Scarlet Letter” with Lillian Gish, among other films (those two are the ones I have seen). He had some more ups and downs (mostly downs) losing his MGM contract due to health problems, making money on investments only to have it embezzled by his business partner, running through a series of menial jobs including a street vendor of hot dogs, and finally, the day before his death, his total accumulated wealth of $18 was stolen by a pickpocket. He died on April 14, 1934 at age 47 of a self-inflicted gunshot. A truly sad life.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 10, 2018 17:54:10 GMT
, for example, one of the twins who were in EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND. Oh now that's depressing. That's just fifteen years ago. |
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Post by snsurone on Jun 10, 2018 20:26:48 GMT
, for example, one of the twins who were in EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND. Oh now that's depressing. That's just fifteen years ago. Has it been that long? Somehow, I don't think so. |
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Post by snsurone on Jun 10, 2018 20:29:03 GMT
Spidey, Margaux was Ernest's granddaughter.
But just the same, the Curse of Atreus was upon the Hemingway family, just like the Kennedy's.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 10, 2018 21:52:03 GMT
Oh now that's depressing. That's just fifteen years ago. Has it been that long? Somehow, I don't think so. 0h I meant the show ending, not his suicide. I hadn't heard of that until now. |
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 11, 2018 15:45:42 GMT
Todd Armstrong of Jason and the Argonauts fame was another one. He was probably my favorite actor in a Harryhausen film even if his voice was dubbed.
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Post by jervistetch on Jun 11, 2018 16:17:20 GMT
George Sanders left one of the more memorable suicide notes.  |
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Post by mattgarth on Jun 11, 2018 16:46:02 GMT
In 1936 Charles Boyer starred as Austrian Crown Prince 'Rudolf' in MAYERLING, the true tragic tale of two lovers who chose to die together rather than being separated by both duty and society.
In 1978, two days after the death of his beloved wife of 44 years Pat Paterson, Boyer reunited with her in eternity by taking his own life.
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Post by neurosturgeon on Jun 11, 2018 18:12:45 GMT
Celebrity suicides seem so senseless to those of us who think they live charmed lives and should be immune to the struggles most of us face everyday. But they too are people faced with challenges and disappointments. Maybe being given the idolatry and having it disappear, makes loneliness all that harder to take. Some feel lonely even in a crowd.
Mental illness, depression, physical illness, financial setbacks can cause people to feel the situation is hopeless, but finding a reason to have hope may be hard, but that can keep a person going.
In the last month, I have faced one doctor telling me that there was nothing that could be done for me. I searched Internet and found the world's expert in my condition, called his office and they asked me to submit my records and I will be seeing him June 28. Two days after that, my dear housemate of 35 years fell and broke his hip. He had surgery and was up and walking when the doctor told him he had terminal cancer. As bad as this news was, Jack said his plans were to go home, hire a caregiver and bring me home from the nursing home where I have been for almost three years so we could be together.
Well that plan was short-lived. Jack was given a painkiller that stopped his breathing and he died the next day. The last three weeks have been hell. Not being related to Jack, I am not being able to go ahead with his final wishes. My friends who seemed so willing to help haven't talked to me in a week. Jack used to call me several times and now there is no one.
But there is still hope. Things may get better or they may not. But that chance that things will get better is what keeps me going. So when you can, try to give people a little hope.👍
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Post by snsurone on Jun 11, 2018 21:45:40 GMT
That's very sad, neuro.
My condolences for your loss.
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Post by jervistetch on Jun 12, 2018 0:47:06 GMT
neurosturgeonSo sorry to read about your hardships, Linda. Your positive attitude is inspiring. I'm really hoping things turn around for you quickly and lovely things come your way.
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Post by Geddy on Jun 12, 2018 1:13:17 GMT
Inger Stevens. Very sad...
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Post by snsurone on Jun 12, 2018 12:31:07 GMT
And Jean Seberg, too.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Jun 12, 2018 13:12:09 GMT
Imagine how bad these people had to feel in order to end themselves? So sad. Depression is insidious and a lot of times there is no warning to others that something's wrong. It's a lonely death for these people who go this way.  |
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Post by snsurone on Jun 12, 2018 23:17:41 GMT
In 1936 Charles Boyer starred as Austrian Crown Prince 'Rudolf' in MAYERLING, the true tragic tale of two lovers who chose to die together rather than being separated by both duty and society. In 1978, two days after the death of his beloved wife of 44 years Pat Paterson, Boyer reunited with her in eternity by taking his own life. Matt, most religions consider suicide a mortal sin, so, according to them, Boyer is in Hell, not Heaven. However, only the most orthodox of faiths still believe in this dogma. More liberal thinkers realize that there are extenuating circumstances behind most suicides. |
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Post by snsurone on Jun 14, 2018 11:35:54 GMT
There was an on line article from CNN yesterday stating that calls to suicide prevention hotlines have increased by 65% since those celebrity deaths.
So, they just may not have died in vain.
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