Interesting endorsement of Batman vs. Superman..

Jay Baruchel has just earned my utmost respect. Mocking DC on the internet can be so cheap, it's pretty much the equivalent of Hollywood actors mocking Donald Trump on SNL.

I don't like the direction the DCEU is going in at the moment and it might be somewhat bias as a DC backer to come out and say I've been no fan of anything Marvel post 2014, so it's a relief to read this. BvS was an okay-ish film, despite some of the performances and ending. There are many great films with not so great endings, Warner should just concentrate on making the DCEU as good as it possibly can be and stop trying to replicate the Marvel formula. Suicide Squad was like The Avengers gone wrong.

The Final fight between Tony, Bucky and Steve was what the movie was building towards, and that was a great payoff.
They were the ones who had bad blood.

Clint and Natasha?  Like you said, Spiderman and Antman weren't needed.  Rhodey and Sam had nothing....Vision and Wanda only had issues because of earlier in the film spawning from the Tony/Steve problem.

The entire thing should have been cut down to Steve and Bucky going for the Quinjet, Natasha trying to stop them then changing her mind...give a little bit of a fight for T'challa with Nat ultimately stopping him like she did.

Then you give a little more development between Vision and Wanda, since they were underserved overall, but no need for them to join the bigger fight.

"The entire thing should have been cut down to Steve and Bucky going for the Quinjet, Natasha trying to stop them then changing her mind...give a little bit of a fight for T'challa with Nat ultimately stopping him like she did."
...And you just proved that you neither understand the progression of events, the themes, or the characters.

No, there was bad blood brewing between all parties of both sides if you bothered to pay any sort of attention. Are all DC fans this unwilling to admit that Marvel's onto something good with their films?

Dude, chill out.

I love the Marvel movies.  They are far superior in every way.  But Civil War was overrated for me...for the reasons I listed.

And to follow up on your comment that was needlessly aggressive out of nowhere...

...none of the other people had bad blood brewing from other films.  Some had disagreements, but not bad blood brewing.  And those disagreements showed up in this film alone, and weren't particularly vitriolic.
The main combatants that should have been involved were Tony and T'Challa vs Steve and Bucky, with Nat caught in the middle.  You can throw in Sam and Rhodey if you want because of their association with Tony and Steve, but they really weren't part of the argument.

You are free to find Civil War overrated and even dislike it, but what you're claiming about the airport fight is blatantly untrue.

"...none of the other people had bad blood brewing from other films."
I'm rewatching the scene right after Secretary Ross gives his presentation to The Avengers right now, and I'm seeing nothing but bad blood brewing between Rhodie and Falcon as they argue. Rhodie is refusing to budge an inch and Falcon is incredulous. Tony's on edge and forcefully making his point while Steve just seems to be at a loss. Of course the disagreements weren't vitriolic... yet. They were still at a place where they respected each other and weren't willing to get rough about it yet.
They were ALL a part of the argument because the Accords impact ALL OF THEM. Steve's side was against the Accords and willing to go against the law to do what they felt was right while the Pro-Accords side had their orders to bring them in. I'm not sure how this is going over your head.

Not necessarily. After all, none of those characters were islands unto themselves. They had friends, partners, and associates who had their back. It's essentially how World War I got started. The problems between a few quickly became problems among many.

Looking at Plot and character important points:
Cap and Bucky get the Quinjet and take off to find Zemo, Rhodey is hurt, Natasha changes sides.

All you have to do is make Sam be the one to inadvertently hurt Rhodey and all the rest can happen just as it did in the film.


Yes, there were Vision and Wanda moments, but as I said earlier, they didn't need to be part of the fight, and pulling Spiderman out of the plot and cutting the Airport fight in half gave room for more development of those two.

Yes...
I know...

I'm not 12.

But it didn't need to be nearly 20 minutes long with no real stakes given the fact that you know none of them really wants to hurt the other.  The final fight is the one with all of the tension.
And that was the problem for me.  For the first time in all of the Marvel films, they chose fanservice over story.  

But not like it can't be done...

A small emp grenade, a fancy flight maneuver, damage Rhodey's armor earlier with Steve's shield and have Sam accidentally hit him in a weak spot, have a minor call-back to Ant Man and give Sam a couple of the shrinking disks... with a minimum effort the writers can find a way for Falcon to beat War Machine at least once.