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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 2:42:19 GMT
Attorney General Jeff Sessions invoked the Bible on Thursday to defend the Trump administration's immigration policies, including separating families who illegally cross the border into the U.S.
“I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,” Sessions said during a speech in Fort Wayne, Indiana. “Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful.”
Sessions' comments come as the administration faces backlash for implementing a "zero tolerance" policy at the border by criminally prosecuting migrants entering the country illegally. The approach includes implementing a previous policy that mandated separating migrant parents facing prosecution from their children during the process.
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders doubled down on the Bible defense of the policy when asked about Sessions' remarks by CNN's Jim Acosta at the White House press briefing on Thursday, saying "it is very biblical to enforce the law."
Acosta pressed her to cite chapter and verse specifically on the policy of separating families.
"I know it’s hard for you to understand even short sentences, I guess, but please don’t take my words out of context," Sanders responded.
Despite Sessions' use of the Bible, various Christian groups have expressed outrage over the policy.
The president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) called the policy immoral at the group's annual meeting on Wednesday.
“Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together,” USCCB's president, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo said.
The Southern Baptist Convention, which is a conservative evangelical denomination, called on Tuesday for immigration reform that includes “the priority of family unity.”
“We declare that any form of nativism, mistreatment, or exploitation is inconsistent with the gospel of Jesus Christ,” the resolution said.
Franklin Graham, a prominent evangelical and Trump supporter, this week said the policy of separating families at the U.S.–Mexico border is "disgraceful" but not the fault of the Trump administration.
"I blame politicians for the last 20, 30 years that have allowed this to escalate to the point where it is today," Graham said on the Christian Broadcasting Network. "We are a country of a laws, laws need to be obeyed, no question about that, but the situation we have today as a result of our lawmakers in Washington over generations ignoring this."
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Post by goz on Jun 15, 2018 5:08:51 GMT
Attorney General Jeff Sessions invoked the Bible on Thursday to defend the Trump administration's immigration policies, including separating families who illegally cross the border into the U.S.
“I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,” Sessions said during a speech in Fort Wayne, Indiana. “Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful.”
Sessions' comments come as the administration faces backlash for implementing a "zero tolerance" policy at the border by criminally prosecuting migrants entering the country illegally. The approach includes implementing a previous policy that mandated separating migrant parents facing prosecution from their children during the process.
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders doubled down on the Bible defense of the policy when asked about Sessions' remarks by CNN's Jim Acosta at the White House press briefing on Thursday, saying "it is very biblical to enforce the law."
Acosta pressed her to cite chapter and verse specifically on the policy of separating families.
"I know it’s hard for you to understand even short sentences, I guess, but please don’t take my words out of context," Sanders responded.
Despite Sessions' use of the Bible, various Christian groups have expressed outrage over the policy.
The president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) called the policy immoral at the group's annual meeting on Wednesday.
“Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together,” USCCB's president, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo said.
The Southern Baptist Convention, which is a conservative evangelical denomination, called on Tuesday for immigration reform that includes “the priority of family unity.”
“We declare that any form of nativism, mistreatment, or exploitation is inconsistent with the gospel of Jesus Christ,” the resolution said.
Franklin Graham, a prominent evangelical and Trump supporter, this week said the policy of separating families at the U.S.–Mexico border is "disgraceful" but not the fault of the Trump administration.
"I blame politicians for the last 20, 30 years that have allowed this to escalate to the point where it is today," Graham said on the Christian Broadcasting Network. "We are a country of a laws, laws need to be obeyed, no question about that, but the situation we have today as a result of our lawmakers in Washington over generations ignoring this."
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 15, 2018 8:52:37 GMT
Interesting.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jun 15, 2018 9:19:06 GMT
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jun 15, 2018 9:19:25 GMT
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Post by lordquesterjones on Jun 15, 2018 9:44:32 GMT
He's obviously mentally ill and should be removed from office for psychological observations immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 12:45:10 GMT
On the one hand, any country needs laws to survive. On the other, no, you shouldn't treat children poorly for the mistakes of their parents.
It is foolish for Sessions to invoke the Bible in his defense of their policies.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 22:27:46 GMT
Attorney General Jeff Sessions invoked the Bible on Thursday to defend the Trump administration's immigration policies, including separating families who illegally cross the border into the U.S.
“I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,” Sessions said during a speech in Fort Wayne, Indiana. “Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful.”
Sessions' comments come as the administration faces backlash for implementing a "zero tolerance" policy at the border by criminally prosecuting migrants entering the country illegally. The approach includes implementing a previous policy that mandated separating migrant parents facing prosecution from their children during the process.
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders doubled down on the Bible defense of the policy when asked about Sessions' remarks by CNN's Jim Acosta at the White House press briefing on Thursday, saying "it is very biblical to enforce the law."
Acosta pressed her to cite chapter and verse specifically on the policy of separating families.
"I know it’s hard for you to understand even short sentences, I guess, but please don’t take my words out of context," Sanders responded.
Despite Sessions' use of the Bible, various Christian groups have expressed outrage over the policy.
The president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) called the policy immoral at the group's annual meeting on Wednesday.
“Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together,” USCCB's president, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo said.
The Southern Baptist Convention, which is a conservative evangelical denomination, called on Tuesday for immigration reform that includes “the priority of family unity.”
“We declare that any form of nativism, mistreatment, or exploitation is inconsistent with the gospel of Jesus Christ,” the resolution said.
Franklin Graham, a prominent evangelical and Trump supporter, this week said the policy of separating families at the U.S.–Mexico border is "disgraceful" but not the fault of the Trump administration.
"I blame politicians for the last 20, 30 years that have allowed this to escalate to the point where it is today," Graham said on the Christian Broadcasting Network. "We are a country of a laws, laws need to be obeyed, no question about that, but the situation we have today as a result of our lawmakers in Washington over generations ignoring this."
thehill.com/homenews/administration/392382-sessions-invokes-the-bible-to-defend-separation-of-families-at-the The nicest way to exploit and cherry pick out of the Bible since the Westboro Baptist Church. |
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Post by captainbryce on Jun 15, 2018 23:34:53 GMT
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Post by sublime92 on Jun 18, 2018 5:17:23 GMT
Yeah, I'd be hard pressed to find any Christian who lives out that scripture these days. And that artwork is actually an interpretation of the Arab Muslim slave trade. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 12:07:08 GMT
The issue here is not whether the bible justifies taking kids off their parents or not.
The issue here is the idea that anybody would justify anything at all using "because a book said so" rather than "because it's a wise and sensible idea".
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 18, 2018 14:57:51 GMT
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jun 18, 2018 16:20:31 GMT
Were I a Christian, I'd likely be reconsidering right about now.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jun 18, 2018 16:31:04 GMT
Were I a Christian, I'd likely be reconsidering right about now. There is a quote from a character in a novel, regarding the bible: you can find whatever you want in it... Love thy neighbor or slay him with the jawbone of an ass. One of the many reasons I'm not a Christian. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 18, 2018 16:37:37 GMT
I was wondering when the streams would be crossed on this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 22:11:10 GMT
Were I a Christian, I'd likely be reconsidering right about now. There is a quote from a character in a novel, regarding the bible: you can find whatever you want in it... Love thy neighbor or slay him with the jawbone of an ass. The bible is a literary Rorschach ink-blot test. The messages people take from it tell you little about the book, but much about the people. |
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Post by mrellaguru on Jun 19, 2018 13:38:33 GMT
Jesus was all about helping the poor and eschewing the pursuit of wealth, so he would not have been a Trump supporter.
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