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Post by sostie on Jun 24, 2018 0:09:26 GMT
Spider-man sat on the train on Homecoming without paying for a ticket. He also bounced an innocents man's head hard off a car causing an alarm which created a disturbance for the elderly. He also stole Flash's car. And they said Vulture was the villain in that movie. Vulture wasn't really a villain. He was just a guy who was trying to provide for his family, but got fucked over by Tony Stark's Damage Control team. They even pointed their guns at him and threatened to shoot him, even though he was unarmed. And in the end, he could've given up Spider-Man's identity to the other prisoners in jail but he didn't. He stole technology that was held by the Government. He made weapons with that technology. He sold those weapons to criminals. He killed an employee. He hijacked a plane. He attempted to kill Parker. I doubt he paid any taxes in relation to his illegal business, and probably money laundered in view he didn't hide his wealth. Sound like criminal acts to me
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 24, 2018 0:31:29 GMT
Superman, Aquaman, Thor and Wonder Woman are all illegal aliens in the countries that they've stayed in. Though it could be said that Thor, being the protector of the 9 realms, has the right to go anywhere on Earth as it is part of his jurisdiction. Nope. Aquaman was BORN IN THE USA thus granting him immediate citizenship. And both Superman and Wonder Woman have lived in the U.S. more than long enough to have citizenship granted. Them's the laws.
None of which apply to Thor. Sorry. But please, try again.
Yes, none of them apply to Thor because they're human laws. You really think Thor cares about human laws? You think the security guard in the school cares that some kids declared the sandbox theirs and that he needs to pay tribute before he can enter it?
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 24, 2018 0:32:41 GMT
Superman, Aquaman, Thor and Wonder Woman are all illegal aliens in the countries that they've stayed in. As stated above, Superman is a US citizen. Diana is Princess of Themyscira so she has diplomatic immunity. Arthur Curry, if they go by the origin story that his father is human and his mother is Atlantean and he was born on land and not born in Atlantis, then that means he was born in the US so technically he is a US citizen. Then I assume you'll apply the same rule to Thor, that being Prince (and now King) of Asgard he also has diplomatic immunity right?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 24, 2018 1:18:35 GMT
Wonder Woman entered the UK illegally As Princess of Themyscira, Diana has diplomatic immunity. No, she does not have diplomatic immunity in the DCEU. The USA does not recognize Themyscira as A sovereign nation. How can we, we don’t even know where it is?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 24, 2018 5:17:18 GMT
As stated above, Superman is a US citizen. Diana is Princess of Themyscira so she has diplomatic immunity. Arthur Curry, if they go by the origin story that his father is human and his mother is Atlantean and he was born on land and not born in Atlantis, then that means he was born in the US so technically he is a US citizen. Then I assume you'll apply the same rule to Thor, that being Prince (and now King) of Asgard he also has diplomatic immunity right? But Thor obtained the throne of Asgard illegally. Hela was Odin's oldest child so Hela was next in line for the throne over Thor and Thor participated in an illegal coup against the rightful monarch. Unless Asgard favors male rulers and prohibits women from being rulers.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 24, 2018 6:20:44 GMT
Then I assume you'll apply the same rule to Thor, that being Prince (and now King) of Asgard he also has diplomatic immunity right? But Thor obtained the throne of Asgard illegally. Hela was Odin's oldest child so Hela was next in line for the throne over Thor and Thor participated in an illegal coup against the rightful monarch. Unless Asgard favors male rulers and prohibits women from being rulers. Dude, most everyone is treating this thread as a joke. Yes the original post is mocking you, but you could've shown you were the bigger man and played along. DCEU vs MCU vs XMU is normally fraught with angst just for once let your hair down and just treat it like a joke. Take the piss out of your detractors and joke around, man.
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Post by dazz on Jun 24, 2018 6:47:59 GMT
Then I assume you'll apply the same rule to Thor, that being Prince (and now King) of Asgard he also has diplomatic immunity right? But Thor obtained the throne of Asgard illegally. Hela was Odin's oldest child so Hela was next in line for the throne over Thor and Thor participated in an illegal coup against the rightful monarch. Unless Asgard favors male rulers and prohibits women from being rulers. Or Asguard allows for their King or Queen to choose a successor rather than it be a case of luck as to who was born first, seeing as how Loki & Thor as children both believed they could each become King this seems a likely scenario, in which case Odin made the choice and decided Thor would be his successor, there's nothing illegal or vaguely sexist about it, especially seeing how Hela was a psychotic blood thirsty dictator...see this is the correct use of this word just fyi for the future...she was passed over for obvious reasons nothing to do with her gender.
So whats your bs excuse going to be now? I know I could think of one or two fair ones but im sure you'll come up with something demented as usual.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 24, 2018 7:06:12 GMT
But Thor obtained the throne of Asgard illegally. Hela was Odin's oldest child so Hela was next in line for the throne over Thor and Thor participated in an illegal coup against the rightful monarch. Unless Asgard favors male rulers and prohibits women from being rulers. Or Asguard allows for their King or Queen to choose a successor rather than it be a case of luck as to who was born first, seeing as how Loki & Thor as children both believed they could each become King this seems a likely scenario, in which case Odin made the choice and decided Thor would be his successor, there's nothing illegal or vaguely sexist about it, especially seeing how Hela was a psychotic blood thirsty dictator...see this is the correct use of this word just fyi for the future...she was passed over for obvious reasons nothing to do with her gender.
So whats your bs excuse going to be now? I know I could think of one or two fair ones but im sure you'll come up with something demented as usual.
1st, Hela wasn't a dictator. A Dictator doesn't take orders from a superior. Hela served as the Executioner for Odin and took orders from Odin and did Odin's bidding. So Hela wasn't a dictator. Odin was the Dictator. 2nd, Odin chooses to pass over his daughter (his eldest child who had also served him loyally as the Executioner who executed anyone who opposed Odin) for 1 of his sons, and you claim that has nothing to do with gender? Asgard clearly favors male rulers and probably prohibits women from being rulers.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 24, 2018 7:24:37 GMT
Or Asguard allows for their King or Queen to choose a successor rather than it be a case of luck as to who was born first, seeing as how Loki & Thor as children both believed they could each become King this seems a likely scenario, in which case Odin made the choice and decided Thor would be his successor, there's nothing illegal or vaguely sexist about it, especially seeing how Hela was a psychotic blood thirsty dictator...see this is the correct use of this word just fyi for the future...she was passed over for obvious reasons nothing to do with her gender.
So whats your bs excuse going to be now? I know I could think of one or two fair ones but im sure you'll come up with something demented as usual.
1st, Hela wasn't a dictator. A Dictator doesn't take orders from a superior. Hela served as the Executioner for Odin and took orders from Odin and did Odin's bidding. So Hela wasn't a dictator. Odin was the Dictator. 2nd, Odin chooses to pass over his daughter (his eldest child who had also served him loyally as the Executioner who executed anyone who opposed Odin) for 1 of his sons, and you claim that has nothing to do with gender? Asgard clearly favors male rulers and probably prohibits women from being rulers. Christ dude I'll bet you are fun at parties. For once man put aside the relentless hate of MCU and joke around. Hell dude I used an idea that Tony had a inappropriate relationship with a 15 year old in mine. Him taking a 15 year old out of the country. If I were being serious I wouldn't bring that up. dazz ripped on the MCU about Scarlet Witch boning a 3 year old. Skaathar made an innuendo to Thor's penis. Come just embrace the silliness. We are all grown men and women talking about and caring a little too much about fictional characters and their stories. There are more important things in life. Have some fun today, tomorrow isn't promised to any of us.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jun 24, 2018 7:29:28 GMT
That’s DC-Fan for you. His whole entire life is dedicated to hating/criticizing the MCU.
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Post by dazz on Jun 24, 2018 10:49:12 GMT
Or Asguard allows for their King or Queen to choose a successor rather than it be a case of luck as to who was born first, seeing as how Loki & Thor as children both believed they could each become King this seems a likely scenario, in which case Odin made the choice and decided Thor would be his successor, there's nothing illegal or vaguely sexist about it, especially seeing how Hela was a psychotic blood thirsty dictator...see this is the correct use of this word just fyi for the future...she was passed over for obvious reasons nothing to do with her gender.
So whats your bs excuse going to be now? I know I could think of one or two fair ones but im sure you'll come up with something demented as usual.
1st, Hela wasn't a dictator. A Dictator doesn't take orders from a superior. Hela served as the Executioner for Odin and took orders from Odin and did Odin's bidding. So Hela wasn't a dictator. Odin was the Dictator. 2nd, Odin chooses to pass over his daughter (his eldest child who had also served him loyally as the Executioner who executed anyone who opposed Odin) for 1 of his sons, and you claim that has nothing to do with gender? Asgard clearly favors male rulers and probably prohibits women from being rulers. Well for one thing Odin locked her away when she started growing out of his control, seeing how he could lock her up clearly this isn't a physical but a loyalty thing, Hela acted out against odins orders, as in she disobeyed her king and wanted to start wars Odin didn't, for this she was banished, then she tried rising up and he sent the Valkyries to stop her, Odin did a similar thing with Thor except by this point Odin was 1000's of years older and so he gave Thor a chance to prove himself redeemable, now Odin could have given Hela the same chance but that's pure speculation, then the day literally minutes after being freed Hela returns to Asguard and begins murdering people, especially those who do not follow her orders despite no one having any clue who she is or her right to the throne, this is dicator type behaviour, unlike when you use it to describe a stubborn dick like Cap.
So that's the dictator thing done, now heres the other thing Thor nor Loki knew shit about Hela so Odin had to have exiled her before either was born, now this is again speculation but seeing how Hela reached adulthood prior to being banished and Odin & Frigga never had another child after Thor, that maybe they only had one child as to not cause a stink over succession, Loki being a fly in that ointment as he was meant to have learned of his true nature once his father passed im assuming and taken his place as king of the frost giants forming a lasting peace and kinship between their people and both brothers and sons of Odin being kings in their own right, but Loki is Loki and he got impatient plus he doesn't seem to give a chickens quiff about frost giants.
But see I knew you would say something demented and you did well done, also if you want to poke holes at the Thor getting diplomatic immunity, technically I don't know how he could seeing as there is no Asguard anymore and they are all refugee's now anyway, so whats the point in giving him diplomatic immunity? Also he's Thor not like he pays attention to things anyway.
But as Vassaggo said chill out and have some fun, specifically be witty and funny, just being your typical inane one dimensional dipshit hate mongering self wont help none, but even if you say 3 silly but comical MCU faults for on DC one it's a win, just don't be such a tosspot for once.
Hey does Wanda putting the whammy on Stark or the others count as drugging them as it kinda has the same effect as giving them mushrooms specifically designed to give you a bad trip.
I think both Tony & Happy admit to reckless driving in IM 1, that's just uncalled for really, they should be ashamed.
Also you know Tony's had public indecency issues at some point right? and if he needed to pee prior to IM 2 whilst in the suit you know he's enganged in public urination, he's a very bad billionaire, were pants and a nappy if you cant hold it dammit.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 24, 2018 11:45:54 GMT
Or Asguard allows for their King or Queen to choose a successor rather than it be a case of luck as to who was born first, seeing as how Loki & Thor as children both believed they could each become King this seems a likely scenario, in which case Odin made the choice and decided Thor would be his successor, there's nothing illegal or vaguely sexist about it, especially seeing how Hela was a psychotic blood thirsty dictator...see this is the correct use of this word just fyi for the future...she was passed over for obvious reasons nothing to do with her gender.
So whats your bs excuse going to be now? I know I could think of one or two fair ones but im sure you'll come up with something demented as usual.
1st, Hela wasn't a dictator. A Dictator doesn't take orders from a superior. Hela served as the Executioner for Odin and took orders from Odin and did Odin's bidding. So Hela wasn't a dictator. Odin was the Dictator. 2nd, Odin chooses to pass over his daughter (his eldest child who had also served him loyally as the Executioner who executed anyone who opposed Odin) for 1 of his sons, and you claim that has nothing to do with gender? Asgard clearly favors male rulers and probably prohibits women from being rulers. Hela was passed over because she was locked up, It had nothing to do with her gender. There was nothing stated in any of the films, that I could remember at least, that women can't be rulers of Asgard.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 24, 2018 15:05:56 GMT
Or Asguard allows for their King or Queen to choose a successor rather than it be a case of luck as to who was born first, seeing as how Loki & Thor as children both believed they could each become King this seems a likely scenario, in which case Odin made the choice and decided Thor would be his successor, there's nothing illegal or vaguely sexist about it, especially seeing how Hela was a psychotic blood thirsty dictator...see this is the correct use of this word just fyi for the future...she was passed over for obvious reasons nothing to do with her gender.
So whats your bs excuse going to be now? I know I could think of one or two fair ones but im sure you'll come up with something demented as usual.
1st, Hela wasn't a dictator. A Dictator doesn't take orders from a superior. Hela served as the Executioner for Odin and took orders from Odin and did Odin's bidding. So Hela wasn't a dictator. Odin was the Dictator. 2nd, Odin chooses to pass over his daughter (his eldest child who had also served him loyally as the Executioner who executed anyone who opposed Odin) for 1 of his sons, and you claim that has nothing to do with gender? Asgard clearly favors male rulers and probably prohibits women from being rulers. If all you can do is move goal posts, then you lost, plain and simple
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 24, 2018 18:25:30 GMT
Odin did a similar thing with Thor except by this point Odin was 1000's of years older and so he gave Thor a chance to prove himself redeemable So Thor also dosobeyed Odin like Hela did, but Odin gave Thor a cance to redeem himself. That sure sounds like a dobuel-standard, basically favoring the male child over the female child. the day literally minutes after being freed Hela returns to Asguard and begins murdering people, especially those who do not follow her orders Because Hela was the rightful Queen of Asgard and those who didn't follow her orders were basically committing treason against their their Queen. Unless Asgard favors male children over female children and prohibits women from being rulers.
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Post by dazz on Jun 24, 2018 19:12:37 GMT
Hela acted out against odins orders, as in she disobeyed her king and wanted to start wars Odin didn't, for this she was banished, then she tried rising up and he sent the Valkyries to stop her, Odin did a similar thing with Thor except by this point Odin was 1000's of years older and so he gave Thor a chance to prove himself redeemable, now Odin could have given Hela the same chance but that's pure speculation So Thor also dosobeyed Odin like Hela did, but Odin gave Thor a cance to redeem himself. That sure sounds like a dobuel-standard, basically favoring the male child over the female child. the day literally minutes after being freed Hela returns to Asguard and begins murdering people, especially those who do not follow her orders despite no one having any clue who she is or her right to the throne, this is dicator type behaviourBecause Hela was the rightful Queen of Asgard and those who didn't follow her orders were basically committing treason against their their Queen. Unless Asgard favors male children over female children and prohibits women from being rulers. Added and bolded the text you missed that explains the point you seem to have missed, though you also seem to have missed the part of the post you did quote and the point of Hela's spiel in Ragnarok about Odin in his younger days being far for aggressive and angry, he mellowed with age which may have altered how he handled Thor's disobedience, then again he stripped Thor of his power also he didn't seem to do this to Hela as how could she have proven herself worthy by still being a psychopath?
And murdering people who don't recognise your authority isn't just it's actual dictatorship behaviour, hell she murdered 2 of the warriors 3 for no reason, and seeing as how Asguard allows for a successor to be named by their king she isn't the rightful ruler, Odin publicly named Thor as the future king, how or why he chooses for is up to you and knowing you and that shrivelled pickle you call a brain you'll spin it into the least positive light, but regardless she isn't the rightful monarch if she has been disowned which she was, just because she thinks she's the rightful queen doesn't mean anything, now stop being a bitch and make some silly suggestions you little shit.
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Post by sostie on Jun 24, 2018 19:19:40 GMT
the day literally minutes after being freed Hela returns to Asguard and begins murdering people, especially those who do not follow her orders Because Hela was the rightful Queen of Asgard Based on what? There are no hard and fast rules of succession...it depends on the royal family in question and factors such as religion, sex, lawfullness etc. Also the succession rules can be changed. Now I'm not sure what the rules are on a fictional intergalactic realm populated by gods, but I am sure you don't have enough information available to you from your cursory viewing of Marvel films to make that call. You are just assuming based on a modicum of knowledge about a royal family or two on Earth...in the real world
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 24, 2018 20:02:09 GMT
Because Hela was the rightful Queen of Asgard Based on what? There are no hard and fast rules of succession...it depends on the royal family in question and factors such as religion, sex, lawfullness etc. Also the succession rules can be changed. Now I'm not sure what the rules are on a fictional intergalactic realm populated by gods, but I am sure you don't have enough information available to you from your cursory viewing of Marvel films to make that call. You are just assuming based on a modicum of knowledge about a royal family or two on Earth...in the real world No, there are no hard and fast rules for Asguardians in regards to session, it’s true. There are hard and fast rules against pedophilia and reckless child endangerment though and no, I’m not talking about Tony Stark. I’m talking about master Bruce Wayne. He adopted a young boy under false pretense and subjected him to brutal training rituals in order to recruit him into his child army. Night after night he sent the boy out alone into hazardous situations until he was finally murdered by a psychotic. He was brutally bludgeoned to death with a crowbar and you can bet that while it was happening, he cried out for the one man who should’ve been there to protect him, Bruce Wayne. He died alone and in massive pain, and Bruce Wayne has never answered for the crime of his death by proxy. The last time I checked Peter Parker was alive and well.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 24, 2018 20:58:01 GMT
There are hard and fast rules against pedophilia and reckless child endangerment though and no, I’m not talking about Tony Stark. You are indeed talking about Tony Stark: - Spied on a high school kid that he had never met before. That covers the pedophilia. - Transported that high school kid out of the country under false pretenses, lying to the kid's legal guardian. That's child kidnapping. - Involving that high school kid in a fight against other super-powered beings. That covers child endangerment. Bruce Wayne. He adopted a young boy under false pretense Did Bruce Wayne not pay his shelter, food, clothing, and education (i.e. all the things that a parent or legal guardian would pay for)? So how is that an adoption under false pretense? subjected him to brutal training rituals He trained him to be able to defend himself. Lots of children take martial arts classes. The last time I checked Peter Parker was alive and well. So you still haven't watched Infinity War yet? Or did you leave the theater before the end, when Thanos snapped his finger and Peter Parker disintegrated into dust?
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 24, 2018 21:10:28 GMT
Well I tried I guess everyone has to be confrontational. We cannot take a break from it. It's sad really. The Germans, French, and British unofficially called for a cease fire during WW1 for Christmas. These were people killing each other in a grinding horrible war. The French, German and British troops crossed No Mans Land to the others trenches leading up to Christmas 1914. They talked, gave each other trinkets, and were generally cordial. Hell they even helped each other on burial duty.
That was just a world war. This is more important. This is arguing about stories of superheroes adapted for movies. This is serious. We have to denigrate the people who like the adaptations of another company. And we always have to have our guard up. If we don't it will be a sign of weakness and the other team might score more internet points.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 24, 2018 21:12:09 GMT
There are hard and fast rules against pedophilia and reckless child endangerment though and no, I’m not talking about Tony Stark. You are indeed talking about Tony Stark: - Spied on a high school kid that he had never met before. That covers the pedophilia. - Transported that high school kid out of the country under false pretenses, lying to the kid's legal guardian. That's child kidnapping. - Involving that high school kid in a fight against other super-powered beings. That covers child endangerment. Bruce Wayne. He adopted a young boy under false pretense Did Bruce Wayne not pay his shelter, food, clothing, and education (i.e. all the things that a parent or legal guardian would pay for)? So how is that an adoption under false pretense? subjected him to brutal training rituals He trained him to be able to defend himself. Lots of children take martial arts classes. The last time I checked Peter Parker was alive and well. So you still haven't watched Infinity War yet? Or did you leave the theater before the end, when Thanos snapped his finger and Peter Parker disintegrated into dust?Wrong! Bruce Wayne is a child-killer by proxy and you’re only covering for him because you condone all DC heroes brutal murdering ways. How could Bruce Wayne allow Robin to die so brutally and alone without bringing the criminals who tortured, maimed and murdered him to justice? Instead he displays the handy work of his killers in his Bat Cave - a defaced costume belonging to his once trusting ward. And the Joker is wandering the streets of Gotham free to kill again and again. Who will die next at the hand of Wayne’s gross incompetence? Another innocent Robin? Batgirl? Who will he subject to his brutal and sadistic game of death. Batman should turn himself in immediately and confess to his culpability in Robin’s death! Justice for Robin NOW!
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