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Post by WarrenPeace on Jun 29, 2018 4:13:56 GMT
And you know what? It was actually not as bad. It kinda grew on me. Though Luke dying like that and able to project himself to another planet, I can never accept. That was bullshit.
My guess is they were going to only keep Leia from the OT Triple Threat in there but now with Carrie gone, they screwed the pooch with that one.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 4:18:28 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is.
I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?".
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 29, 2018 4:32:38 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". As much as I tend to disagree with the guy, Jeremy Jahns had a great quote in one of his Star Wars videos about that whole thing. He said something to the effect of, "Yeah, TLJ took risks, but that doesn't make it good. Sleeping with your best friend's wife is a risk, but that doesn't make it a good thing to do." That's how I feel about TLJ. Johnson took risks, but most of them fell flat in my opinion.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 29, 2018 4:33:47 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". You know what I have noticed ? The People that liked " THE FORCE AWAKENS" hated " THE LAST JEDI" while the People that hated " THE FORCE AWAKENS" liked " THE LAST JEDI".
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Post by WarrenPeace on Jun 29, 2018 4:33:58 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". I think what they want is something that they are used to which would be something that can resemble the OT as close as possible. And there are some similarities to ESB in this one. A white planet serving as the hideout/rebel base with at-ats attacking it and soldiers in the trenches along with strange looking indigenous creatures. The First Order is using ships as their HQ instead of a planet or space station. Yoda is teaching Luke things. Again. Floating rocks. Huge hologram of the main and disfigured leader. Force choking.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 4:35:31 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". As much as I tend to disagree with the guy, Jeremy Jahns had a great quote in one of his Star Wars videos about that whole thing. He said something to the effect of, "Yeah, TLJ took risks, but that doesn't make it good. Sleeping with your best friend's wife is a risk, but that doesn't make it a good thing to do." That's how I feel about TLJ. Johnson took risks, but most of them fell flat in my opinion. That's why they're called risks. They'll either please you with the results or not. I'd rather have a filmmaker take risks and fail than to just play it safe.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 29, 2018 4:36:50 GMT
As much as I tend to disagree with the guy, Jeremy Jahns had a great quote in one of his Star Wars videos about that whole thing. He said something to the effect of, "Yeah, TLJ took risks, but that doesn't make it good. Sleeping with your best friend's wife is a risk, but that doesn't make it a good thing to do." That's how I feel about TLJ. Johnson took risks, but most of them fell flat in my opinion. That's why they're called risks. They'll either please you with the results or not. I'd rather have a filmmaker take risks and fail than to just play it safe. Agreed!
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 4:37:37 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". I think what they want is something that they are used to which would be something that can resemble the OT as close as possible. And there are some similarities to ESB in this one. A white planet serving as the hideout/rebel base with at-ats attacking it and soldiers in the trenches along with strange looking indigenous creatures. The First Order is using ships as their HQ instead of a planet or space station. Yoda is teaching Luke things. Again. Floating rocks. Huge hologram of the main and disfigured leader. Force choking. No matter what happens, how hard you try, or how much you try to recreate the experience, nobody will ever duplicate the OT. It can't and won't happen. The OT was a "stars aligned just right" type of thing and experiences like that you just can't duplicate no matter how hard you try. If a franchise like Star Wars wants to survive, it needs to stop trying to relive the past.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 4:38:37 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". You know what I have noticed ? The People that liked " THE FORCE AWAKENS" hated " THE LAST JEDI" while the People that hated " THE FORCE AWAKENS" liked " THE LAST JEDI". I like both films.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 29, 2018 4:39:02 GMT
You know what I have noticed ? The People that liked " THE FORCE AWAKENS" hated " THE LAST JEDI" while the People that hated " THE FORCE AWAKENS" liked " THE LAST JEDI". I like both films. So Do I!
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 4:40:42 GMT
I like both films. So Do I!
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Post by johnspartan on Jun 29, 2018 5:05:45 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". The original trilogy are classics that have lasted 40 years, that's what we want the new movies to be. Not cranked out, rushed cash grabs that they didn't even plan out storywise ahead of time.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 5:08:10 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". The original trilogy are classics that have lasted 40 years, that's what we want the new movies to be. Well audiences need to realize that, as much as they want this, IT WON'T HAPPEN. Doesn't matter how hard you try, how thought-out and planned the new films are, etc. Why do people keep thinking that past experiences can be duplicated exactly? They just can't.
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Post by johnspartan on Jun 29, 2018 5:12:23 GMT
The original trilogy are classics that have lasted 40 years, that's what we want the new movies to be. Well audiences need to realize that, as much as they want this, IT WON'T HAPPEN. Doesn't matter how hard you try, how thought-out and planned the new films are, etc. Why do people keep thinking that past experiences can be duplicated exactly? They just can't. The least they could do is spend 3 years on each movie and map out a beginning and end point of the story, but that's too much to ask of these lazy shitheads.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 5:15:29 GMT
Well audiences need to realize that, as much as they want this, IT WON'T HAPPEN. Doesn't matter how hard you try, how thought-out and planned the new films are, etc. Why do people keep thinking that past experiences can be duplicated exactly? They just can't. The least they could do is spend 3 years on each movie and map out a beginning and end point of the story, but that's too much to ask of these lazy shitheads. Well I'm going to make the assumption that they have done so or else it would have been stupid of them to make three films without planning them out. I'll at least with until Episode 9 to pass judgment unlike everyone else.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 29, 2018 5:17:50 GMT
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Post by johnspartan on Jun 29, 2018 6:49:21 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 29, 2018 12:33:27 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". Make a movie that shows the natural progression of the characters after 30 years, or better yet, tell a new Star Wars story without destroying everything that came before. It isn't that difficult. TFA was a stale rehash but TLJ was a travesty. Here's the thing: I like the new characters. Finn, Rey, Poe, they're fantastic. I just wish the scripts were coherent in the least. You don't have to tear Luke down to build Rey up. You don't have to turn Hux into an idiot to make the heroes more competent or Kylo more menacing. It's lazy writing. And what Rian Johnson did to Luke is tragic and completely nonsensical. You want to kill him, fine. But don't turn him into an idiot and a coward before doing so. The humor was so forced and never let up; the OT had its moments but there's a difference between Star Wars and Spaceballs. Hell, I'd even watch a zany new take on a SW film, but a farce should never involve the core characters. TLJ is awful on so many levels. I'm not a twitter rage guy, I haven't signed any online petitions. But as someone who grew up with Star Wars, I was deeply disappointed by TLJ and consider the franchise (at least the central storyline films) dead at this point.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jun 29, 2018 13:59:24 GMT
Well at least you like it more. I think at the very least it's a good film and people are making it seem worse than it is. I don't get Star Wars fans. They object when a film plays it safe (Force Awakens). So we get a film that takes some chances (Last Jedi) and people still object. It's like "Well what do you want?". You know what I have noticed ? The People that liked " THE FORCE AWAKENS" hated " THE LAST JEDI" while the People that hated " THE FORCE AWAKENS" liked " THE LAST JEDI". And then there are the people like me, who didn't like either.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 29, 2018 16:09:37 GMT
I still think TLJ is a good movie. It's even a good Star Wars movie.
However, it's not a good sequel to TFA.
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