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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2018 13:33:41 GMT
Yeah I get that he's tired from it, that still doesn't explain how he's able to become strong enough to move his bulk when it directly contradicts the explanation for when he grows tiny. Like I said... Kinda sorta explains it a little. Of all the superpowers, there is definitely an argument that this one makes the least sense based on real world physics. Yeah, the growing tiny but powerful I can understand. It's like a black hole: maintains the same amount of gravitational force of the full star but condensed to a tiny size making it a lot more powerful due to concentration. The growing bigger, stronger and bullet proof is harder to explain. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 17, 2018 18:23:24 GMT
Technically, maintaining their strength while shrunken in size makes sense scientifically. But that becomes completely absurd if you apply the same logic to when Antman becomes Giantman... because using that logic he shouldn't be strong enough to even move. So another case of bad writing in MCU movies. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2018 18:32:40 GMT
Technically, maintaining their strength while shrunken in size makes sense scientifically. But that becomes completely absurd if you apply the same logic to when Antman becomes Giantman... because using that logic he shouldn't be strong enough to even move. So another case of bad writing in MCU movies. Meh, not quite as bad as the superspeed nonsense they have in the DCEU. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 17, 2018 21:09:30 GMT
The vehicles maintain the same speed once miniaturised during the chase sequence? They didn't.
But lets say they did and try to give an explanation... Because they were smaller but retained the same torque as when it was bigger (the same way that AntMan retains the same strength as when he's bigger) they could still go fast.
Maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 21:13:12 GMT
Like I said... Kinda sorta explains it a little. Of all the superpowers, there is definitely an argument that this one makes the least sense based on real world physics. Yeah, the growing tiny but powerful I can understand. It's like a black hole: maintains the same amount of gravitational force of the full star but condensed to a tiny size making it a lot more powerful due to concentration. The growing bigger, stronger and bullet proof is harder to explain. Supposedly he gains added mass through some wibbly-wobbly Pymly-partically stuff when he grows into Giantman. I don't know, Antman makes absolutely no sense if you stop to think about how his powers would work in the real world which is especially unfortunate since his powers are gadget based-- so he's supposed to be somewhat grounded in the realm of possibility. You just have to accept that he can do whatever the hell he does. Shrinking/Growing is an especially easy target to pick holes in because of all the physics at play. But I don't think anyone wants to see an Antman that shrinks to the size of an atom and instantly dies or grows as large as a Macy Float and then collapses into a heap. They should have just made it that he found a magical amulet on top of an ant hill and then some ancient shaman told him "Oh, you can grow big or small with that and also physics are a lie created by the Illuminati." |
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Post by merh on Jul 18, 2018 13:28:15 GMT
That is saps his energy more. Like in Civil War when he asked for Irange slices. That he needs to replenush energy. In this one he said he slept for days after the airport fight. Yeah I get that he's tired from it, that still doesn't explain how he's able to become strong enough to move his bulk when it directly contradicts the explanation for when he grows tiny. This IS a comic book movie. I always saw the constant complaint in the 80s Giant-Man was impossible because the human frame couldn't handle the size. Gods & monsters. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2018 16:31:19 GMT
Yeah I get that he's tired from it, that still doesn't explain how he's able to become strong enough to move his bulk when it directly contradicts the explanation for when he grows tiny. This IS a comic book movie. I always saw the constant complaint in the 80s Giant-Man was impossible because the human frame couldn't handle the size. Gods & monsters. To be fair, I wouldn't have had a problem if they simply never gave an explanation for his powers. But they had to make an explanation for it, particularly how he was able to do what he did while shrunken in size, and it directly contradicts what we see when he grows in size. It's not really a big deal but it is contradictory and probably the messiest explanation for any of the MCU superpowers so far. |
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