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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 16, 2018 6:48:51 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 16, 2018 7:56:27 GMT
You would have to ask Him, but I would imagine He probably isn't jumping for joy about it.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 16, 2018 11:07:43 GMT
God should be used to it, as the purported Almighty discriminates against humankind all the time.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2018 11:09:53 GMT
God should be used to it, as the purported Almighty discriminates against humankind all the time. Only wicked vs righteous, but that would be someone discriminating against God.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 16, 2018 11:35:19 GMT
No, (the idea of) God necessarily discriminates against mankind since we are denied equality, due to the conditions of our humanity. God is always superior. In this it is not us who sets the supposed rules.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2018 11:48:30 GMT
No, (the idea of) God necessarily discriminates against mankind since we are denied equality, due to the conditions of our humanity. God is always superior. In this it is not us who sets the supposed rules. So God is discriminatory because he's better than us? Ok. How does that apply to this article though since that doesn't explain how men are better than each other? Spoiler Alert: It doesn't
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 16, 2018 12:10:23 GMT
No, (the idea of) God necessarily discriminates against mankind since we are denied equality, due to the conditions of our humanity. God is always superior. In this it is not us who sets the supposed rules. So God is discriminatory because he's better than us? Ok. I can think of a god which does not negatively discriminate. One, for instance, for whom mankind is not treated as second class through the notion of original sin, being denied things over something he or she cannot help. It doesn't, it related to how a supposed God would feel about the discrimination on the basis of race - the OP question, remember?
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Post by general313 on Jul 16, 2018 13:35:53 GMT
God should be used to it, as the purported Almighty discriminates against humankind all the time. Only wicked vs righteous, but that would be someone discriminating against God. No, God was clearly biased when it came to Israelites vs. Egyptians, Babylonians, Philistines, etc.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2018 15:10:48 GMT
Only wicked vs righteous, but that would be someone discriminating against God. No, God was clearly biased when it came to Israelites vs. Egyptians, Babylonians, Philistines, etc. Of course he was biased against Israel’s enemies. That isn’t the same thing as segregation and any of those groups could have joined and worshipped him with the Israelites.
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Post by general313 on Jul 16, 2018 15:35:03 GMT
No, God was clearly biased when it came to Israelites vs. Egyptians, Babylonians, Philistines, etc. Of course he was biased against Israel’s enemies. That isn’t the same thing as segregation and any of those groups could have joined and worshipped him with the Israelites. It goes beyond that. "God's chosen people" is a racist concept. The OT God's support of the Israelites' violence to acquire the promised land I think shows that he would have had no problem with apartheid.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2018 16:44:47 GMT
Of course he was biased against Israel’s enemies. That isn’t the same thing as segregation and any of those groups could have joined and worshipped him with the Israelites. It goes beyond that. "God's chosen people" is a racist concept. The OT God's support of the Israelites' violence to acquire the promised land I think shows that he would have had no problem with apartheid. its not since they weren’t chosen by race but by his friendship with their ancestor Abraham. Anyone could worship and find favor with God and especially once Christianity was literally required to preach to everyone.
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Post by faustus5 on Jul 16, 2018 16:49:26 GMT
Considering that the God of the OT is perfectly fine with all out genocide, including the murder of children, of course he'd have no issues with apartheid.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 16, 2018 17:06:03 GMT
Considering that the God of the OT is perfectly fine with all out genocide, including the murder of children, of course he'd have no issues with apartheid. What about the God of Jesus and of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2018 17:38:00 GMT
Considering that the God of the OT is perfectly fine with all out genocide, including the murder of children, of course he'd have no issues with apartheid. murder is a legal term
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 16, 2018 17:41:36 GMT
Considering that the God of the OT is perfectly fine with all out genocide, including the murder of children, of course he'd have no issues with apartheid. What about the God of Jesus and of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)? Since God of OT is the same as God of NT, wicked people and the kids they have will croak in droves too. It’s ok to be upset about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 18:44:00 GMT
How every you want him to feel.
God is a human creation so you can make him feel how every you like.
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Post by general313 on Jul 16, 2018 19:11:28 GMT
How every you want him to feel. God is a human creation so you can make him feel how every you like. Not really. Maybe that's true if you're the author of a particular work of fiction, but in most cases religion is shared cultural intellectual property, with established traditions, no more easily mutated than languages or vocabulary. If I said that Gandalf was indifferent to the concerns of Hobbits, I would be plain wrong.
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Post by faustus5 on Jul 17, 2018 10:13:42 GMT
Considering that the God of the OT is perfectly fine with all out genocide, including the murder of children, of course he'd have no issues with apartheid. What about the God of Jesus and of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)? Same fictional entity: evil, narcissistic, and psychotic.
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Post by faustus5 on Jul 17, 2018 10:14:41 GMT
Considering that the God of the OT is perfectly fine with all out genocide, including the murder of children, of course he'd have no issues with apartheid. murder is a legal term It is also a moral term, and by any sane application of moral and ethical norms, the god of the bible is an evil, narcissistic, psychotic monster.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 17, 2018 10:30:22 GMT
It is also a moral term, and by any sane application of moral and ethical norms, the god of the bible is an evil, narcissistic, psychotic monster. By all of them? Lol
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