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Post by Isapop on Jul 17, 2018 17:04:01 GMT
How many bathrooms?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 17, 2018 17:27:33 GMT
That's New Jerusalem. As I recall it isn't Heaven, but it does come down from Heaven.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 17, 2018 17:33:49 GMT
That's New Jerusalem. As I recall it isn't Heaven, but it does come down from Heaven. Interesting. What is the difference between new earth and heaven? I honestly don't know. Neither do I, but it's fun to speculate. John describes things that he doesn't have a frame of reference for, so he just describes them as best he can. Something like a sea of glass, three creatures like frogs, etc. |
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Post by Catman on Jul 17, 2018 17:50:55 GMT
You're being silly. People don't poop in heaven. |
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Post by clusium on Jul 17, 2018 22:44:27 GMT
Interesting. What is the difference between new earth and heaven? I honestly don't know. Neither do I, but it's fun to speculate. John describes things that he doesn't have a frame of reference for, so he just describes them as best he can. Something like a sea of glass, three creatures like frogs, etc. Earth is for this life. Heaven is for the next, Eternal Life. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 17, 2018 22:53:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 23:18:03 GMT
New Jerusalem
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 17, 2018 23:27:31 GMT
Yumthang Valley, Sikkim Province, India. 11,693 ft above the sea level.  |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 18, 2018 11:30:31 GMT
As described by John in Revelations 21 and 22. - Heaven is shaped like a square. - Heaven is fifteen hundred miles high, wide and long. - It's walls are 72 yards high. - It's walls are made of crystal clear Jasper. - The walls have 12 foundation stones. The foundation stones are each a different precious stone. They are Jasper, Sapphire, Chalcedony, Emerald, Sardonyx, Sardius, Chrysolite, Beryl, Topaz, Chrysoprase, Jacinth, and Amethyst. - There are twelve gates. Three on each wall. Each gate is made of a single pearl, and they never close. There is an Angel posted at each gate. - The streets are made of crystal clear gold. - There is no temple. God is the temple. - There is a crystal clear river running from God. - On both sides of the river is The Tree of Life. The tree bears 12 fruits monthly. - There is no Sun or Moon. God is the light and there is no night. If the gates never close why do they need walls? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 18, 2018 11:46:20 GMT
As described by John in Revelations 21 and 22. - Heaven is shaped like a square. - Heaven is fifteen hundred miles high, wide and long. - It's walls are 72 yards high. - It's walls are made of crystal clear Jasper. - The walls have 12 foundation stones. The foundation stones are each a different precious stone. They are Jasper, Sapphire, Chalcedony, Emerald, Sardonyx, Sardius, Chrysolite, Beryl, Topaz, Chrysoprase, Jacinth, and Amethyst. - There are twelve gates. Three on each wall. Each gate is made of a single pearl, and they never close. There is an Angel posted at each gate. - The streets are made of crystal clear gold. - There is no temple. God is the temple. - There is a crystal clear river running from God. - On both sides of the river is The Tree of Life. The tree bears 12 fruits monthly. - There is no Sun or Moon. God is the light and there is no night. If the gates never close why do they need walls? Excellent question, and one I have considered whenever I read the book. My guess would be to keep the vermin and the filth out of the city. Nothing sets a boundary quite like a wall, yes? And with an angel posted at each gate, there would be no need for the gates to close, because nothing impure is going to get past that angel. That's my guess anyway. It's good that you're asking questions, FilmFlaneur. It means you have an interest in learning, and you're not simply here to condemn that which you don't comprehend, yes? |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 18, 2018 11:52:23 GMT
If the gates never close why do they need walls? Excellent question, and one I have considered whenever I read the book. My guess would be to keep the vermin and the filth out of the city. Nothing sets a boundary quite like a wall, yes? And with an angel posted at each gate, there would be no need for the gates to close, because nothing impure is going to get past that angel. That's my guess anyway. There's vermin and filth in the New Jerusalem? Would a literal heaven on earth likely have a rodent problem?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 18, 2018 12:00:24 GMT
Excellent question, and one I have considered whenever I read the book. My guess would be to keep the vermin and the filth out of the city. Nothing sets a boundary quite like a wall, yes? And with an angel posted at each gate, there would be no need for the gates to close, because nothing impure is going to get past that angel. That's my guess anyway. There's vermin and filth in the New Jerusalem? Would a literal heaven on earth likely have a rodent problem?
Thank you for the condescension, right out of the box. The vermin and filth I refer to are the Satanists, the homosexuals, the blasphemers, etc., but you probably knew that already. Condescension? Really? Didn't you once say that because I sometimes questioned the existence of God I was taking the first step toward rationality? Didn't you say that? Or was that one of your clones who said that? I declare, you guys are so much alike that I often can't remember which one of you said what. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 18, 2018 14:00:22 GMT
The vermin and filth I refer to are the Satanists, the homosexuals, the blasphemers, etc., but you probably knew that already. No, it appears it is you who knows all about it here, about a magical city guarded by angels, populated by spirit people.
I don't remember saying that. I do remember saying here, after Aristotle, that the un-examined life is not worth living.
In any case, I am not sure why this would make "It's good that you're asking questions, FilmFlaneur. It means you have an interest in learning, and you're not simply here to condemn that which you don't comprehend, yes" any less condescending.
It must be hard not being able to distinguish between people. Is it the same with names and places? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 18, 2018 14:12:16 GMT
The vermin and filth I refer to are the Satanists, the homosexuals, the blasphemers, etc., but you probably knew that already. No, it appears it is you who knows all about it here, about a magical city guarded by angels, populated by spirit people.
I don't remember saying that. I do remember saying here, after Aristotle, that the un-examined life is not worth living.
In any case, I am not sure why this would make "It's good that you're asking questions, FilmFlaneur. It means you have an interest in learning, and you're not simply here to condemn that which you don't comprehend, yes" any less condescending.
It must be hard not being able to distinguish between people. Is it the same with names and places? I thought it was Socrates who said that and not Aristotle, but either way I agree. An unexamined life is not worth living, but I can speak only for myself. And yes. I have trouble with Budapest and Bucharest as well. If you ever get tired of my condescension, there's the door. Feel free to use it. I'm getting tired of demolishing Arlon10's lightwork. I long for something more challenging.  |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 18, 2018 14:17:09 GMT
If you ever get tired of my condescension, QED. |
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Post by general313 on Jul 18, 2018 15:11:00 GMT
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 20, 2018 9:47:14 GMT
It looks like this. It's Christmas in Heaven, All the children sing, It's Christmas in Heaven, Hark hark those church bells ring. It's Christmas in Heaven, The snow falls from the sky... But it's nice and warm and everyone Looks smart and wears a tie. It's Christmas in Heaven, There's great fims on tv... 'The Sound of Music' twice an hour And 'Jaws' one, two and three There's gifts for all the family, There's toiletries and trains... There's Sony Walkman Headphone sets And the latest video games. It's Christmas it's Christmas in Heaven! Hip hip hip hip hip hooray! Every single day, Is Christmas day. It's Christmas it's Christmas in Heaven! Hip hip hip hip hip hooray! Every single day, It's Christmas day. |
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