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Post by James on Apr 11, 2019 13:25:07 GMT
I believe Scarlet Witch should be higher on the B scale, but that’s me. Also, you forgot Spider-Man.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 11, 2019 14:59:22 GMT
I believe Scarlet Witch should be higher on the B scale, but that’s me. Also, you forgot Spider-Man. I guess she could be. The only reason I considered her a low class B was because she's not as consistent with her feats as majority of the others on that list. Thanks for pointing out Spiderman. Cat also made some valid points on Ironfist and Jessica Jones. Here's the updated list: Class S:
Thor w/ Stormbreaker Starlord w/ Ego-boost Dr. Strange w/ time gem Class A:
Ragnarok Thor Dr. Strange w/o time gem Ancient One Ironman w/ nano-armor Class B:
Hulk Hulkbuster Thor (regular) Vision Ghost Rider Loki w/ mind scepter Quake (full power) Antman/Giantman (can be either a low Class B or high Class C) Scarlet Witch (can be either a low Class B or high Class C) Class C:
Ironman (standard armor) Warmachine Quake (regular) Loki (regular) Valkyrie (and pretty much any elite Asgardians) Iron-Spider Black Panther (nanite suit) Yondu Groot Wasp Wong Iron Spider Quicksilver (can be either a low Class C or high Class D) Class D:
Captain America Black Panther (old suit) Winter Soldier Drax Gamora Starlord Rocket Mantis Luke Cage Yo-yo Spiderman (I do think Spiderman should be a class C but considering how he performed against Vulture and Captain America, he gets to be class D till he gets better feats) Ironfist (bumping up Ironfist because when utilizing his full powers, he'd be able to give majority of guys in this class a run for their money) Class E:
Black Widow Hawkeye Okoye Falcon Daredevil Jessica Jones (dropping JJ here because though she has enhanced strength, some of the guys in this class can easily take her out) Melinda May (and pretty much any high-end SHIELD agent like Bobbi Morse or Nick Fury) Punisher Colleen Wing
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 11, 2019 15:13:43 GMT
I believe Scarlet Witch should be higher on the B scale, but that’s me. Also, you forgot Spider-Man. I guess she could be. The only reason I considered her a low class B was because she's not as consistent with her feats as everyone else on that list. Thanks for pointing out Spiderman. Cat also made some valid points on Ironfist and Jessica Jones. Here's the updated list: Class S:
Thor w/ Stormbreaker Starlord w/ Ego-boost Dr. Strange w/ time gem Class A:
Ragnarok Thor Dr. Strange w/o time gem Ancient One Ironman w/ nano-armor Class B:
Hulk Hulkbuster Thor (regular) Vision Ghost Rider Loki w/ mind scepter Quake (full power) Antman/Giantman (can be either a low Class B or high Class C) Scarlet Witch (can be either a low Class B or high Class C) Class C:
Ironman (standard armor) Warmachine Quake (regular) Loki (regular) Valkyrie (and pretty much any elite Asgardians) Iron-Spider Black Panther (nanite suit) Yondu Groot Wasp Wong Iron Spider Quicksilver (can be either a low Class C or high Class D) Class D:
Captain America Black Panther (old suit) Winter Soldier Drax Gamora Starlord Rocket Mantis Luke Cage Yo-yo Spiderman (I do think Spiderman should be a class C but considering how he performed against Vulture and Captain America, he gets to be class D till he gets better feats) Ironfist (bumping up Ironfist because when utilizing his full powers, he'd be able to give majority of guys in this class a run for their money) Class E:
Black Widow Hawkeye Okoye Falcon Daredevil Jessica Jones (dropping JJ here because though she has enhanced strength, some of the guys in this class can easily take her out) Melinda May (and pretty much any high-end SHIELD agent like Bobbi Morse or Nick Fury) Punisher Colleen Wing I still get a kick out of this topic, great stuff. Unless I missed her you forgot Captain Marvel. The only real issue I have with the updated list is Jessica Jones. She isn't a great fighter but she can throw people through walls. That in itself puts her in a higher power class than Hawkeye, DD and the like.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 11, 2019 15:39:21 GMT
Well I originally had Jessica Jones a level higher but then I thought that if it ever came to a direct fight between combatants in Class E, guys like Falcon or Okoye can easily take her out despite her enhanced strength. Then you have people like Melinda May who, despite being a regular human, has taken on enhanced opponents and either held her own or even won. In comparison, JJ had trouble with 3 security guards with stun batons. Black Widow would have easily taken out that group. But I guess we can say she's a high class E. Either that or she's a very low class D. I did completely forget Captain Marvel. Updating now: Class S:Thor w/ Stormbreaker Starlord w/ Ego-boost Dr. Strange w/ time gem Class A:
Ragnarok Thor Dr. Strange w/o time gem Ancient One Ironman w/ nano-armor Captain Marvel (Binary) Class B:Hulk Hulkbuster Thor (regular) Vision Ghost Rider Loki w/ mind scepter Quake (full power) Antman/Giantman (can be either a low Class B or high Class C) Scarlet Witch (can be either a low Class B or high Class C) Class C:Ironman (standard armor) Warmachine Quake (regular) Loki (regular) Valkyrie (and pretty much any elite Asgardians) Iron-Spider Black Panther (nanite suit) Yondu Groot Wasp Wong Iron Spider Captain Marvel (with inhibitor) Quicksilver (can be either a low Class C or high Class D) Class D:Captain America Black Panther (old suit) Winter Soldier Drax Gamora Starlord Rocket Mantis Luke Cage Yo-yo Spiderman (I do think Spiderman should be a class C but considering how he performed against Vulture and Captain America, he gets to be class D till he gets better feats) Ironfist (bumping up Ironfist because when utilizing his full powers, he'd be able to give majority of guys in this class a run for their money) Class E:
Black Widow Hawkeye Okoye Falcon Daredevil Jessica Jones (dropping JJ here because though she has enhanced strength, some of the guys in this class can easily take her out) Melinda May (and pretty much any high-end SHIELD agent like Bobbi Morse or Nick Fury) Punisher Colleen Wing
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 11, 2019 15:55:09 GMT
Well I originally had Jessica Jones a level higher but then I thought that if it ever came to a direct fight between combatants in Class E, guys like Falcon or Okoye can easily take her out despite her enhanced strength. Then you have people like Melinda May who, despite being a regular human, has taken on enhanced opponents and either held her own or even won. In comparison, JJ had trouble with 3 security guards with stun batons. Black Widow would have easily taken out that group. But I guess we can say she's a high class E. Either that or she's a very low class D. She also fought Luke Cage to a standstill, they were throwing each other through walls. I'm pretty sure DD, Melinda May or Colleen Wing (pre-Fist) loses that fight pretty quickly. I think JJ takes it easy on regular people because she doesn't want to kill anyone. Also, action sequences cause inconsistent writing by their very nature. Cap has struggled overpowering regular guys in a fight, but he held up a car that was falling off a bridge in AoU. It's your list, I'm not petitioning you to change it or anything. Just adding my two cents.
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