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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 21, 2018 4:14:17 GMT
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 21, 2018 15:48:53 GMT
So basically Dave Bautista and Selma Blair and Sarah Silverman and all these morons who support that scumbag pedophile James Gunn are saying Gunn shouldn't have been fired because the guy who outed him was a shady character. That is just despicable! It's the same thing as if a woman is raped and the defense lawyer says "Well, my client shouldn't be charged with rape because the woman he's accused of raping is a prostitute so you ignore her claims that my client raped her." All these morons who support that scumbag pedophile James Gunn are just despicable! your prostitute-analogy is too weak; it's worse, more like this: "Well, my client shouldn't be charged with rape because the witness who produced the authentic evidence of the rape is a rapist himself so you ignore his authentic video, pics and evidence showing my client commiting the deed."
It's a deflective fallacy (tu quoque) and an implicit admission of guilt.
It's one of the favorite tactics of the resident child-abuse apologists here too, a sign of their lack of character and intelligence.
Sheesh, you act if he abused a child... Oh wait, he didn't. It's alright snowflake, his words can't hurt you.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 25, 2018 15:02:35 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 6, 2018 10:08:52 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 6, 2018 16:53:06 GMT
All those morons who support that scumbag pedophile James Gunn, including the GotG cast, are fucking hypocrites! They keep using the same excuses: 1. Well, it was 10 years ago so we shouldn't hold what he said 10 years ago against him. 2. Well, he was just joking. So what if it was discovered that some Director made hundreds of tweets 10 years ago that were racist? Would those same morons who support that scumbag pedophile Gunn also say the racist Director should be given a free pass because it was 10 years ago and he was just joking? Or would they agree the racist Director should be fired? Disney was right to fire that scumbag pedophile Gunn. If anything, Disney didn't go far enough. Disney should also fire the cast of GotG for supporting that scumbag pedophile Gunn. Disney needs to send a clear message that they have a no tolerance policy when it comes to pedophiles and those who support pedophiles, like Dave Bautista and the GotG cast does.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 6, 2018 21:44:45 GMT
All those morons who support that scumbag pedophile James Gunn, including the GotG cast, are fucking hypocrites! They keep using the same excuses: 1. Well, it was 10 years ago so we shouldn't hold what he said 10 years ago against him. 2. Well, he was just joking. So what if it was discovered that some Director made hundreds of tweets 10 years ago that were racist? Would those same morons who support that scumbag pedophile Gunn also say the racist Director should be given a free pass because it was 10 years ago and he was just joking? Or would they agree the racist Director should be fired? Disney was right to fire that scumbag pedophile Gunn. If anything, Disney didn't go far enough. Disney should also fire the cast of GotG for supporting that scumbag pedophile Gunn. Disney needs to send a clear message that they have a no tolerance policy when it comes to pedophiles and those who support pedophiles, like Dave Bautista and the GotG cast does. Oh hi there fake moral outrage.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 6, 2018 23:09:48 GMT
All those morons who support that scumbag pedophile James Gunn, including the GotG cast, are fucking hypocrites! They keep using the same excuses: 1. Well, it was 10 years ago so we shouldn't hold what he said 10 years ago against him. 2. Well, he was just joking. So what if it was discovered that some Director made hundreds of tweets 10 years ago that were racist? Would those same morons who support that scumbag pedophile Gunn also say the racist Director should be given a free pass because it was 10 years ago and he was just joking? Or would they agree the racist Director should be fired? Disney was right to fire that scumbag pedophile Gunn. If anything, Disney didn't go far enough. Disney should also fire the cast of GotG for supporting that scumbag pedophile Gunn. Disney needs to send a clear message that they have a no tolerance policy when it comes to pedophiles and those who support pedophiles, like Dave Bautista and the GotG cast does. its NOT even 10 years, some tweeds date Dec 2012 (during MCU time) and even more recent, the rest were deleted by Gunn so we do not know what's in there. If someone would make racist tweets like that (Gunn did but few compared to the child abuse fantasies) what would happen? Let's convert a few of James Gunn's many child abuse fantasies into primitive racism tweets: What would our apologists do? What's the difference? They would defend it as mere jokes and claim that Gunn is not a racist, and that YOUR outrage is fake and YOU are the racist. Just a few days ago some here claimed again that calling black people monkey is not racist, and hardly anybody opposed. Why? People without morals and character will automatically (i) assume that all criticism and outrage regarding child abuse/racism is fake (because they cannot feel morals), and (ii) obtusely ignore and deny the evidence, and (iii) will try to deflect with claims it's all a joke (iv) will accuse the messengers and critics and play the victim card and blame everybody else. It's the way of the offender and their enablers.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 7, 2018 1:36:06 GMT
Lol I’m sure some people’s outrage is genuine, but DC-Fan’s is obviously not. If anyone other than James Gunn/someone involved with the MCU had made those jokes like someone involved with the DCEU for example he wouldn’t act outraged at all, he wouldn’t call them a scumbag pedophile, he wouldn’t call the people who defend him despicable, he wouldn’t say anything, he wouldn’t care. The only reason why DC-Fan acts so outraged over this is because it’s about someone involved with the MCU. It’s like when he acted so outraged when Stan Lee was accused of sexual misconduct and kept talking about him like he was officially a sexual predator (because he wanted so bad for him to be a sexual predator), but never said anything about Ben Affleck (completely ignored this thread for example). Because Stan Lee = Marvel/MCU, Ben Affleck = DC/DCEU. If someone involved with the MCU does something bad it’s a big deal and DC-Fan is going to go to great lengths to make them look bad, but if someone involved with DC/DCEU does something bad DC-Fan won’t say a word because it’s not a big deal to him. That’s how far that creepy weirdo’s obsession goes.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 7, 2018 1:52:58 GMT
Will someone lock this damn thread already?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 7, 2018 1:57:07 GMT
Will someone lock this damn thread already? No clue why it’s still sticky.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 7, 2018 4:01:25 GMT
Lol I’m sure some people’s outrage is genuine, but DC-Fan’s is obviously not. If anyone other than James Gunn/someone involved with the MCU had made those jokes like someone involved with the DCEU for example he wouldn’t act outraged at all, he wouldn’t call them a scumbag pedophile, he wouldn’t call the people who defend him despicable, he wouldn’t say anything, he wouldn’t care. The only reason why DC-Fan acts so outraged over this is because it’s about someone involved with the MCU. It’s like when he acted so outraged when Stan Lee was accused of sexual misconduct and kept talking about him like he was officially a sexual predator (because he wanted so bad for him to be a sexual predator), but never said anything about Ben Affleck (completely ignored this thread for example). Because Stan Lee = Marvel/MCU, Ben Affleck = DC/DCEU. If someone involved with the MCU does something bad it’s a big deal and DC-Fan is going to go to great lengths to make them look bad, but if someone involved with DC/DCEU does something bad DC-Fan won’t say a word because it’s not a big deal to him. That’s how far that creepy weirdo’s obsession goes. I do you one better. He didn't say a word about Brett Ratner's film production company financing all the DCEU films, including WONDER WOMAN.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 7, 2018 13:49:40 GMT
This thread was restickied because a month or two some James Gunn news broke out and multiple threads were made about it.
It was agreed upon that it would be stick again. This thread will remain sticky until the 31st of December and on January 1st it's getting unstick.
After that any further news will either be posted on this thread or deleted. No ifs or buts about it.
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Post by sostie on Oct 8, 2018 9:48:31 GMT
Lol I’m sure some people’s outrage is genuine, but DC-Fan’s is obviously not. If anyone other than James Gunn/someone involved with the MCU had made those jokes like someone involved with the DCEU for example he wouldn’t act outraged at all, he wouldn’t call them a scumbag pedophile, he wouldn’t call the people who defend him despicable, he wouldn’t say anything, he wouldn’t care. The only reason why DC-Fan acts so outraged over this is because it’s about someone involved with the MCU. It’s like when he acted so outraged when Stan Lee was accused of sexual misconduct and kept talking about him like he was officially a sexual predator (because he wanted so bad for him to be a sexual predator), but never said anything about Ben Affleck (completely ignored this thread for example). Because Stan Lee = Marvel/MCU, Ben Affleck = DC/DCEU. If someone involved with the MCU does something bad it’s a big deal and DC-Fan is going to go to great lengths to make them look bad, but if someone involved with DC/DCEU does something bad DC-Fan won’t say a word because it’s not a big deal to him. That’s how far that creepy weirdo’s obsession goes. I do you one better. He didn't say a word about Brett Ratner's film production company financing all the DCEU films, including WONDER WOMAN. He insists Gunn is a pedo based on NO evidence he has committed an illegal act....he'll happily call Stan Lee a sex offender based on accusations made by some dubious sources, and no report to police....but is happy to give the benefit of the doubt to an accused sex offender even if his accuser has made the claims under threat of perjury... I don't know for certain if Kavanaugh raped her, but given the lack of any evidence and given the fact that she waited several decades before claiming rape, I just don't think there's enough reason to reject Kavanaugh's nomination.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 8, 2018 17:01:20 GMT
Gunn made hundreds of pedophile tweets so there's no doubt that Gunn is a pedophile. Stan Lee's accusers didn't wait 35 years to bring up the offenses that Stan Lee committed. Kavanaugh's accuser waited 35 years to being up the accusations. She waited until he was nominated for a job on the Supreme Court. That smells like dirty politics. And the fact that there are Democrats who are talking about impeaching Kavanaugh when he just got confirmed for the job and hasn't even heard a case as a Supreme Court Justice yet pretty much confirms that these accusations were just a dirty political ploy by the Democrats to derail a Supreme Court nominee. Now I get that the Democrats want to derail Kavanaugh in retaliation for the Republicans not allowing hearings on Obama's nominee (and as an Independent, I disagree with the Republicans' ploy in that case too), but the tactics used against Obama's nominee had nothing to do with Trump or Kavanaugh so the Democrats can't take that out on Trump or Kavanaugh. Otherwise, should we hold southern Democrats today responsible for slavery and the Civil War? Bottom line: There's hundreds of pedophile tweets from Gunn corroborating that he's a pedophile and Stan Lee's accusers came forward in a timely manner, but Kavanaugh's accuser waited 35 years and came forward only when he was nominated for a job on the Supreme Court. Most people (who aren't Democrats or liberals desperate to try to derail Kavanaugh) would agree that waiting 35 years to cry rape in order to destroy a possibly innocent person's career and reputation isn't right or just.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 8, 2018 17:05:13 GMT
Can we please not derail this?
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 8, 2018 17:10:48 GMT
Can we please not derail this? I've been posting about the topic of James Gunn's pedophile tweets. I've even asked the question, what if it was discovered that some Director made hundreds of tweets 10 years ago that were racist, would MCU fans who support Gunn say it was 10 years ago and it was a joke or would MCU fans call for the racist Director to be fired? Do MCU fans think making hundreds of racist tweets 10 years ago isn't OK but making hundreds of pedophile tweets 10 years ago is perfectly OK?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 8, 2018 17:17:05 GMT
Can we please not derail this? I've been posting about the topic of James Gunn's pedophile tweets. I've even asked the question, what if it was discovered that some Director made hundreds of tweets 10 years ago that were racist, would MCU fans who support Gunn say it was 10 years ago and it was a joke or would MCU fans call for the racist Director to be fired? Do MCU fans think making hundreds of racist tweets 10 years ago isn't OK but making hundreds of pedophile tweets 10 years ago is perfectly OK? It's wrong either way. If any director makes a decade worth of problematic tweets, be it racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic or even pedophiliac, they are in the wrong and if the studio feels like it's worth firing over it's their right.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 8, 2018 17:20:22 GMT
I've been posting about the topic of James Gunn's pedophile tweets. I've even asked the question, what if it was discovered that some Director made hundreds of tweets 10 years ago that were racist, would MCU fans who support Gunn say it was 10 years ago and it was a joke or would MCU fans call for the racist Director to be fired? Do MCU fans think making hundreds of racist tweets 10 years ago isn't OK but making hundreds of pedophile tweets 10 years ago is perfectly OK? It's wrong either way. If any director makes a decade worth of problematic tweets, be it racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic or even pedophiliac, they are in the wrong and if the studio feels like it's worth firing over it's their right. That's what I've been saying here. I'm amazed at how the GotG cast and hundreds of thousands of morons who sign the petitions think that it's OK for someone to make hundreds of pedophile tweets and not get fired.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 8, 2018 17:25:09 GMT
It's wrong either way. If any director makes a decade worth of problematic tweets, be it racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic or even pedophiliac, they are in the wrong and if the studio feels like it's worth firing over it's their right. That's what I've been saying here. I'm amazed at how the GotG cast and hundreds of thousands of morons who sign the petitions think that it's OK for someone to make hundreds of pedophile tweets and not get fired. They're entitled to their opinion.
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Post by sostie on Oct 8, 2018 17:47:50 GMT
Gunn made hundreds of pedophile tweets so there's no doubt that Gunn is a pedophile. Stan Lee's accusers didn't wait 35 years to bring up the offenses that Stan Lee committed. Kavanaugh's accuser waited 35 years to being up the accusations. She waited until he was nominated for a job on the Supreme Court. That smells like dirty politics. And the fact that there are Democrats who are talking about impeaching Kavanaugh when he just got confirmed for the job and hasn't even heard a case as a Supreme Court Justice yet pretty much confirms that these accusations were just a dirty political ploy by the Democrats to derail a Supreme Court nominee. Now I get that the Democrats want to derail Kavanaugh in retaliation for the Republicans not allowing hearings on Obama's nominee (and as an Independent, I disagree with the Republicans' ploy in that case too), but the tactics used against Obama's nominee had nothing to do with Trump or Kavanaugh so the Democrats can't take that out on Trump or Kavanaugh. Otherwise, should we hold southern Democrats today responsible for slavery and the Civil War? Bottom line: There's hundreds of pedophile tweets from Gunn corroborating that he's a pedophile and Stan Lee's accusers came forward in a timely manner, but Kavanaugh's accuser waited 35 years and came forward only when he was nominated for a job on the Supreme Court. Most people (who aren't Democrats or liberals desperate to try to derail Kavanaugh) would agree that waiting 35 years to cry rape in order to destroy a possibly innocent person's career and reputation isn't right or just. My post is more about how you always base your opinion on who is accused regardless of the level of proof or the circumstances surrounding the accusation. Some might say the fact someone gave their evidence under oath, had a lie detector test that backed her story up and revealed the events many years earlier to others is enough to cast doubt on whether someone committed sexual assault or not...more so than perhaps someone posting some ill judged jokes making the a pedophile. I'm sure if it was someone connected to Marvel rather than Kavanaugh in that situation you would instantly damn them...in fact I am 100% certain you would. And if timescales are so important in judging whether a complaint is relevant or not....go tell that to all the children that were abused by Catholic priests that never saw justice (if any) until decades later. Ironic considering who re-opened this whole Gunn furore and why Not comparable. Making a racist, homophobic, mysoginist etc jokes pretty much exposes you as having racist, homophobic or mysoginist views. You are attacking/demeaning a group in society . By telling those racist jokes/comments you in effect committing an act of racism Making jokes about pedophilia does not make you a pedophile. Making jokes about rape does not make you a rapist. Jokes about anal sex doesn't make you a sodomite. Jokes about crime does not make you a criminal. By telling a pedo joke you are NOT committing an act of pedophilia.
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