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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 24, 2018 23:46:13 GMT
Both have that extreme low contrast color grading that makes everything look super washed out and drab. It annoys the hell outta me. I tried to watch DS tonight and had to switch to something else after a few minutes. Anyone else notice this?
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Post by merh on Jul 25, 2018 1:54:52 GMT
Can't say I ever noticed. I got curious in the process of color grading a few years ago when I saw a discussion on it on the old imdb. Now, I can't help but notice it in every movie I watch. It takes a trained eye, but once you learn to see it you can't unsee it. Take a look at the opening sequence in AoU and pay attention to the extremely low contrast image. It's washed out, there are no true blacks and none of the colors pop But this isn't necessarily off. I know when I head into work on foggy mornings the colors are more muted
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 4:05:03 GMT
I got curious in the process of color grading a few years ago when I saw a discussion on it on the old imdb. Now, I can't help but notice it in every movie I watch. It takes a trained eye, but once you learn to see it you can't unsee it. Take a look at the opening sequence in AoU and pay attention to the extremely low contrast image. It's washed out, there are no true blacks and none of the colors pop But this isn't necessarily off. I know when I head into work on foggy mornings the colors are more muted Well, it's more noticeable in live action. And it persists throughout the entire film. That pic actually looks better than the movie itself
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 4:08:56 GMT
I noticed Marvel's color grading after watching this video. As @forceghostackbar noted, they turned down the black values that they end up looking gray onscreen. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 fixed the problem, but Thor: Ragnarok went back to using the washed out color grading when it should have been more vibrant. An excellent video that every MCU fan should watch! Though I think the guy in that video may be painting with a bit too broad of a brush because the movies do vary depending on the colorist/cinematographer/director. But his points are all spot on. I completely agree when he says that Disney should've kept shooting on film instead of switching to digital. I actually think Thor Ragnorock looks pretty good compared to some of the others though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 6:18:31 GMT
UPDATE: I devised a most elegant solution... I created a specialized setting on my tv where I blasted the shit out of the contrast and color. I call it the Marvel setting.
Just watched Doc Strange with it. The movie looked alright! Still not a big fan of the color pallete but I admit I am a picky bastard.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 25, 2018 6:22:33 GMT
UPDATE: I devised a most elegant solution... I created a specialized setting on my tv where I blasted the shit out of the contrast and color. I call it the Marvel setting. Just watched Doc Strange with it. The movie looked alright! Still not a big fan of the color pallete but I admit I am a picky bastard. I put mine on "Vivid" when necessary.
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Post by merh on Jul 25, 2018 10:15:42 GMT
But this isn't necessarily off. I know when I head into work on foggy mornings the colors are more muted Well, it's more noticeable in live action. And it persists throughout the entire film. That pic actually looks better than the movie itself The party scene? Vision coming to life? What I found amazing about Age of Ultron was Whedon managed to make it like a comicbook. Panel of one hero, panel of another hero, panel of another hero, splash of all the heroes in action. The scene where they are all fighting the Ultrons in the church is a centerfold.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 19:21:40 GMT
Well, it's more noticeable in live action. And it persists throughout the entire film. That pic actually looks better than the movie itself The party scene? Vision coming to life? What I found amazing about Age of Ultron was Whedon managed to make it like a comicbook. Panel of one hero, panel of another hero, panel of another hero, splash of all the heroes in action. The scene where they are all fighting the Ultrons in the church is a centerfold. The Vision scene, like most interior scenes in the movie, has a completely different problem: two tone orange and teal color grading. Basically they're lit with those two colors only which, in moderation is done to make the colors pop, but in excess as its done here, makes it looks (subjectively) ugly. These are however still low contrast scenes, it's just not as noticeable as the exterior scenes. Look, the movie isn't all bad. And my complaint is not about the directing style, the cinematography or the content. I just do not like the low contrast image. I think it's ugly. If you really want a proper explanation, watch the video Christian linked above. It will explain this better than me. Or just simply look at that image of Civil War that I posted and it will be quite apparent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 19:24:05 GMT
UPDATE: I devised a most elegant solution... I created a specialized setting on my tv where I blasted the shit out of the contrast and color. I call it the Marvel setting. Just watched Doc Strange with it. The movie looked alright! Still not a big fan of the color pallete but I admit I am a picky bastard. I put mine on "Vivid" when necessary. That'll work too. A lot of digitally shot movies look super flat so that setting comes in quite handy with recent releases. In other words: GIVE THE ACKBARZ THE VIVIDLY DYNAMIC PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!10987654321
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Post by James on Jul 25, 2018 19:40:29 GMT
Eh, they look pretty fine to me.
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