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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 3, 2018 19:51:05 GMT
Lazy you say? Was Jesus lazy when he let Judas sell him out so that he could die on the cross for all of us...? Was Einstein lazy when describing the relationship between energy and matter in the most simplistic formula...? Was Kevin Feige lazy when hitting that raccoon turd in the shallow end of the kiddy pool, giving him his grand vision of a MCU...? Was JJ Abrams lazy when he studied the gospel of Lucas and rehashed it plot beat for plot beat...? Well, one or two of them certainly were, but definitely not our lord Lucas I can tell you that. With the Clone Troopers he absolutely did. Should have went with an actual suit like he did with the Storm Troopers. shoulda, coulda, woulda. Maybe, maybe not. The ones with the Jango-head were real of course. Lucas pioneered new technologies that are now standard. It's like with CGI-Tarkin: hardly anybody realized the clones were not real until Lucas revealed it, and then people complained. With Tarkin only ppl whined who knew, those who did not know, thought it was a real face. Successful illusion I call it, illusions are never perfect and never will be. Also the clone troopers are kewl: they win and even slaughter the Jedi. The stormtroopers or their sorry derivatives in the ST couldn't hit sitting ducks.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 7:09:43 GMT
Did you see Justice League? That looked like a PS2 cut scene compared to Infinity War. Should have had the same criticism.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 17:13:54 GMT
So why d hate for us real comic fans? James Cameron was right.
Cameron was right about what? He made Avatar (one long CGI scene) and making 5 more. He made T2. He made The Abyss. He's producing Alita: Battle Angel with a girl with CGI anime eyes and visible robot arms. What was he right about?
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 19:10:03 GMT
So why d hate for us real comic fans? James Cameron was right.
Cameron was right about what? He made Avatar (one long CGI scene) and making 5 more. He made T2. He made The Abyss. He's producing Alita: Battle Angel with a girl with CGI anime eyes and visible robot arms. What was he right about? Cameron is a story teller. His film have plots.MCU ..NOT so much.
MCU movies don't have story telling or plots. its all cgi and blowing up cities. his friend Christopher nolan backs him up when nolan told films fans the difference between interstellar and gotg in 2014. nolan even admits once in a while, he likes to blow things up but he is also a story teller and gotg is not a story telling film.
So Cameron was right, we all know MCU movies are terrible , that is why you lie a lot...remember?and their own producers admit it by saying its all CGI. MCU is the comic version of transformers.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 19:18:36 GMT
I will say this, and it may even be a unpopular opinion, it is disappointing how so many in the film industry rely so much on CGI. Obviously it's going to be required for things that can't be done physically. But it does seem to be a lazy way out. A good example is what George Lucas did with Episode 2 and 3. He pretty much CGI the entire film, save some sets and locations. And those films didn't exactly age that well. I think you are a little late to the party or not informed enough. the over reliance of CGI is the reason grounded comics like Logan, TDK, X2, BB have excelled in every way possible and are deemed superior . while MCU movies continues to get hated on with more critical bias been exposed.
grounded comic films are called grounded for a reason. they limit the CGI so the story regardless of how flawed can shine.
Remember TDKR in 2012? it was a fair criticism that the police who were trapped for days with no food or water would not have the strength to fight prison criminals. is the plot flawed? yes it is. but guess what? it excelled better than avengers 2012 because a tired police officer with no food for days fighting criminals is more believable than a bunch of people in avengers 2012 striking poses, doing cheesy superhero landings and making jokes as cities are getting destroyed.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 4, 2018 19:25:26 GMT
I will say this, and it may even be a unpopular opinion, it is disappointing how so many in the film industry rely so much on CGI. Obviously it's going to be required for things that can't be done physically. But it does seem to be a lazy way out. A good example is what George Lucas did with Episode 2 and 3. He pretty much CGI the entire film, save some sets and locations. And those films didn't exactly age that well. I think you are a little late to the party or not informed enough. the over reliance of CGI is the reason grounded comics like Logan, TDK, X2, BB have excelled in every way possible and are deemed superior . while MCU movies continues to get hated on with more critical bias been exposed. grounded comic films are called grounded for a reason. they limit the CGI so the story regardless of how flawed can shine.
Remember TDKR in 2012? it was a fair criticism that the police who were trapped for days with no food or water would not have the strength to fight prison criminals. is the plot flawed? yes it is. but guess what? it excelled better than avengers 2012 because a tired police officer with no food for days fighting criminals is more believable than a bunch of people in avengers 2012 striking poses, doing cheesy superhero landings and making jokes as cities are getting destroyed. I wasn't just talking about comic book movies, I was talking about the industry in general.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 19:42:07 GMT
I think you are a little late to the party or not informed enough. the over reliance of CGI is the reason grounded comics like Logan, TDK, X2, BB have excelled in every way possible and are deemed superior . while MCU movies continues to get hated on with more critical bias been exposed. grounded comic films are called grounded for a reason. they limit the CGI so the story regardless of how flawed can shine.
Remember TDKR in 2012? it was a fair criticism that the police who were trapped for days with no food or water would not have the strength to fight prison criminals. is the plot flawed? yes it is. but guess what? it excelled better than avengers 2012 because a tired police officer with no food for days fighting criminals is more believable than a bunch of people in avengers 2012 striking poses, doing cheesy superhero landings and making jokes as cities are getting destroyed. I wasn't just talking about comic book movies, I was talking about the industry in general. Regardless.... comic films especially the mcu movies are the most notorious and well known for the use of cgi with no story, hence James Cameron's truthful criticism.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 20:35:59 GMT
Cameron was right about what? He made Avatar (one long CGI scene) and making 5 more. He made T2. He made The Abyss. He's producing Alita: Battle Angel with a girl with CGI anime eyes and visible robot arms. What was he right about? Cameron is a story teller. His film have plots.MCU ..NOT so much.
MCU movies don't have story telling or plots. its all cgi and blowing up cities. his friend Christopher nolan backs him up when nolan told films fans the difference between interstellar and gotg in 2014. nolan even admits once in a while, he likes to blow things up but he is also a story teller and gotg is not a story telling film.
So Cameron was right, we all know MCU movies are terrible , that is why you lie a lot...remember?and their own producers admit it by saying its all CGI. MCU is the comic version of transformers.
Is Cameron a good storyteller? All of his movies are either remakes or a sequel to someone else movie. I mean, in Avatar he has a metal called unobtainium. Really? Really?! Is this the best this master storyteller can do? What's even more sad is that he's not the 1st to use that name for a material.
Dude, you constantly make posts where you lie. Including everything you said in the post I'm currently replying to.
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Post by scabab on Aug 4, 2018 20:36:47 GMT
They have a lot of CGI and acceptable stories. Not the worst that belongs to Transformers.
Nobody would make a deal out of it except the MCU is so overwhelmingly popular that it will get singled out more.
Jurassic World, Pirates of the Caribbean, Pacific Rim and other giant monster movies like Rampage, Godzilla, Skull Island are all the same too, tons of CGI and not the best story.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 20:53:30 GMT
Cameron is a story teller. His film have plots.MCU ..NOT so much.
MCU movies don't have story telling or plots. its all cgi and blowing up cities. his friend Christopher nolan backs him up when nolan told films fans the difference between interstellar and gotg in 2014. nolan even admits once in a while, he likes to blow things up but he is also a story teller and gotg is not a story telling film.
So Cameron was right, we all know MCU movies are terrible , that is why you lie a lot...remember?and their own producers admit it by saying its all CGI. MCU is the comic version of transformers.
Is Cameron a good storyteller? All of his movies are either remakes or a sequel to someone else movie. I mean, in Avatar he has a metal called unobtainium. Really? Really?! Is this the best this master storyteller can do? What's even more sad is that he's not the 1st to use that name for a material.
Dude, you constantly make posts where you lie. Including everything you said in the post I'm currently replying to. And you prove my point by using last jedi, possibly the worst star wars movie ever made. that was made by disney right? who makes the worst comic movies called mcu movies.
interesting that you are now attacking cameron. mcu fans are funny, they will attack anyone who says the truth about their movies. is cameron a good story teller, yes he is, but he also understandS technicality, something mcu does not. and his films have superior story telling to the MCU.
Sorry but to compare MCU movies to Aliens, T2, Avatar or Titanic is beyond laughable.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 21:22:35 GMT
Is Cameron a good storyteller? All of his movies are either remakes or a sequel to someone else movie. I mean, in Avatar he has a metal called unobtainium. Really? Really?! Is this the best this master storyteller can do? What's even more sad is that he's not the 1st to use that name for a material.
Dude, you constantly make posts where you lie. Including everything you said in the post I'm currently replying to. And you prove my point by using last jedi, possibly the worst star wars movie ever made. that was made by disney right? who makes the worst comic movies called mcu movies.
interesting that you are now attacking cameron. mcu fans are funny, they will attack anyone who says the truth about their movies. is cameron a good story teller, yes he is, but he also understandS technicality, something mcu does not. and his films have superior story telling to the MCU.
Sorry but to compare MCU movies to Aliens, T2, Avatar or Titanic is beyond laughable.
I used that Star Wars clip for the line. If there was a line I wanted from the Star Wars Christmas Special I would have used that.
Dude everyone knows that Cameron only makes remakes and sequels to other people movies.
Piranha 2- Did he make the 1st one? The Terminator- Based on an Outer Limits episode Aliens- Did he make the 1st one? The Abyss- The only original idea Cameron had, but as a kid T2- Bigger version of T1 True Lies- Remake of a French movie Titanic- Remake Avatar- Pocahontas, FernGully, Dances With Wolves, etc. etc.
But hey he keeps milking the ones that were the most popular. What are we up to on Terminator movies? He's making sure he makes Avatar 5 before the bubble bursts. How many deep sea documentaries did he make after Titanic?
Aliens was a good action movie, but there was no real story there. T2 was a remake to the 1st movie. It's the same as X1-X2 in just doing the same thing again, but going bigger. Avatar is a tech spec that people saw was just a bunch of other movies. And Titanic didn't do well because it was an achievement in storytelling. Titanic was the previous version of 50 Shades of Gray that had women running back to the theater. Also, Cameron craps on anything that hurts his popularity. You remember that crap storm when Wonder Woman came out? That's probably why he wants Linda Hamilton back for the next Terminator movie. So he can try to out do Wonder Woman. I'm surprised that he didn't say anything about that Terminator 2 remake called Days of Future Past. Probably because Singer went to him because he's some kind of authority on time travel...
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 21:46:57 GMT
And you prove my point by using last jedi, possibly the worst star wars movie ever made. that was made by disney right? who makes the worst comic movies called mcu movies.
interesting that you are now attacking cameron. mcu fans are funny, they will attack anyone who says the truth about their movies. is cameron a good story teller, yes he is, but he also understandS technicality, something mcu does not. and his films have superior story telling to the MCU.
Sorry but to compare MCU movies to Aliens, T2, Avatar or Titanic is beyond laughable.
I used that Star Wars clip for the line. If there was a line I wanted from the Star Wars Christmas Special I would have used that.
Dude everyone knows that Cameron only makes remakes and sequels to other people movies.
Piranha 2- Did he make the 1st one? The Terminator- Based on an Outer Limits episode Aliens- Did he make the 1st one? The Abyss- The only original idea Cameron had, but as a kid T2- Bigger version of T1 True Lies- Remake of a French movie Titanic- Remake Avatar- Pocahontas, FernGully, Dances With Wolves, etc. etc.
But hey he keeps milking the ones that were the most popular. What are we up to on Terminator movies? He's making sure he makes Avatar 5 before the bubble bursts. How many deep sea documentaries did he make after Titanic?
Aliens was a good action movie, but there was no real story there. T2 was a remake to the 1st movie. It's the same as X1-X2 in just doing the same thing again, but going bigger. Avatar is a tech spec that people saw was just a bunch of other movies. And Titanic didn't do well because it was an achievement in storytelling. Titanic was the previous version of 50 Shades of Gray that had women running back to the theater. Also, Cameron craps on anything that hurts his popularity. You remember that crap storm when Wonder Woman came out? That's probably why he wants Linda Hamilton back for the next Terminator movie. So he can try to out do Wonder Woman. I'm surprised that he didn't say anything about that Terminator 2 remake called Days of Future Past. Probably because Singer went to him because he's some kind of authority on time travel...
Um, yeah.. so back to the lieing but the truth lies with the mcu since all mcu movies are the same, their fans say so, their actors say so and the directors says so. all mcu movies are more of the same than any other series, reason no one takes them seriously and call them real films.
Yikes, titanic is like 50 shades of grey? let me see. a great love story than transcends time, two amazing actors leo and kate who acted the hell out of the movie, a beautiful score by the wonderful james horner, ground breaking visual effects that pushes the story forward and 14 Oscars of merit. meanwhile mcu movies are so poorly written a writer like David finch will put it on the same level as 50 shades of grey.
nice try, but you cant pass off mcu idiotic way of film making as a cameron or xmen problem. thank goodness when DOFP was out not only did it kill winter solider's momentum in story telling and technicality but it also brought up the accusation Cameron stole the story when he was poor. thor 3 comes out and is dismissed as gotg remake by thor fans and critics. gotg 2 is dimissed as a retarded joke remake of GOTG 1, and so on...we now have the term mcu forumla that prove all mcu movies are the same.
also speaking of singer consulting with cameron you should read why cameron said gotg is garbage. cameron asked what was the consultant of gotg? there was none. good movies have consultants. Nolan confided in Jackman when they made the prestige together on how xmen helped him making batman. nolan used Steven spielberg as a consultant to make a good war movie for Dunkirk because he saw saving private ryan and wanted it to be the same.
mcu consults with kids to buy toys or not anyone at all, hence the outcome of their garbage childish movies that are all the same.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 4, 2018 22:22:19 GMT
I used that Star Wars clip for the line. If there was a line I wanted from the Star Wars Christmas Special I would have used that. Dude everyone knows that Cameron only makes remakes and sequels to other people movies.
Piranha 2- Did he make the 1st one? The Terminator- Based on an Outer Limits episode Aliens- Did he make the 1st one? The Abyss- The only original idea Cameron had, but as a kid T2- Bigger version of T1 True Lies- Remake of a French movie Titanic- Remake Avatar- Pocahontas, FernGully, Dances With Wolves, etc. etc. But hey he keeps milking the ones that were the most popular. What are we up to on Terminator movies? He's making sure he makes Avatar 5 before the bubble bursts. How many deep sea documentaries did he make after Titanic?
Aliens was a good action movie, but there was no real story there. T2 was a remake to the 1st movie. It's the same as X1-X2 in just doing the same thing again, but going bigger. Avatar is a tech spec that people saw was just a bunch of other movies. And Titanic didn't do well because it was an achievement in storytelling. Titanic was the previous version of 50 Shades of Gray that had women running back to the theater. Also, Cameron craps on anything that hurts his popularity. You remember that crap storm when Wonder Woman came out? That's probably why he wants Linda Hamilton back for the next Terminator movie. So he can try to out do Wonder Woman. I'm surprised that he didn't say anything about that Terminator 2 remake called Days of Future Past. Probably because Singer went to him because he's some kind of authority on time travel...
Um, yeah.. so back to the lieing but the truth lies with the mcu since all mcu movies are the same, their fans say so, their actors say so and the directors says so. all mcu movies are more of the same than any other series, reason no one takes them seriously and call them real films. Yikes, titanic is like 50 shades of grey? let me see. a great love story than transcends time, two amazing actors leo and kate who acted the hell out of the movie, a beautiful score by the wonderful james horner, ground breaking visual effects that pushes the story forward and 14 Oscars of merit. meanwhile mcu movies are so poorly written a writer like David finch will put it on the same level as 50 shades of grey.
nice try, but you cant pass off mcu idiotic way of film making as a cameron or xmen problem. thank goodness when DOFP was out not only did it kill winter solider's momentum in story telling and technicality but it also brought up the accusation Cameron stole the story when he was poor. thor 3 comes out and is dismissed as gotg remake by thor fans and critics. gotg 2 is dimissed as a retarded joke remake of GOTG 1, and so on...we now have the term mcu forumla that prove all mcu movies are the same.
also speaking of singer consulting with cameron you should read why cameron said gotg is garbage. cameron asked what was the consultant of gotg? there was none. good movies have consultants. Nolan confided in Jackman when they made the prestige together on how xmen helped him making batman. nolan used Steven spielberg as a consultant to make a good war movie for Dunkirk because he saw saving private ryan and wanted it to be the same.
mcu consults with kids to buy toys or not anyone at all, hence the outcome of their garbage childish movies that are all the same.
Do you agree with James Cameron's criticism of Wonder Woman?
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 22:35:11 GMT
Um, yeah.. so back to the lieing but the truth lies with the mcu since all mcu movies are the same, their fans say so, their actors say so and the directors says so. all mcu movies are more of the same than any other series, reason no one takes them seriously and call them real films. Yikes, titanic is like 50 shades of grey? let me see. a great love story than transcends time, two amazing actors leo and kate who acted the hell out of the movie, a beautiful score by the wonderful james horner, ground breaking visual effects that pushes the story forward and 14 Oscars of merit. meanwhile mcu movies are so poorly written a writer like David finch will put it on the same level as 50 shades of grey.
nice try, but you cant pass off mcu idiotic way of film making as a cameron or xmen problem. thank goodness when DOFP was out not only did it kill winter solider's momentum in story telling and technicality but it also brought up the accusation Cameron stole the story when he was poor. thor 3 comes out and is dismissed as gotg remake by thor fans and critics. gotg 2 is dimissed as a retarded joke remake of GOTG 1, and so on...we now have the term mcu forumla that prove all mcu movies are the same.
also speaking of singer consulting with cameron you should read why cameron said gotg is garbage. cameron asked what was the consultant of gotg? there was none. good movies have consultants. Nolan confided in Jackman when they made the prestige together on how xmen helped him making batman. nolan used Steven spielberg as a consultant to make a good war movie for Dunkirk because he saw saving private ryan and wanted it to be the same.
mcu consults with kids to buy toys or not anyone at all, hence the outcome of their garbage childish movies that are all the same.
Do you agree with James Cameron's criticism of Wonder Woman? In a way yes. people keep forgetting james cameron never bashed wonder woman as a film. that is the difference. he bashed avengers as a film because avengers is all cgi and explosions, disgracing the art of cinema. same as John Landis. Cameron's criticism of wonder woman is a common criticism we see in comics.Something even xmen comics can be criticised for, female characters are shown as very beautiful with big boobs, big breast extremely curvy wearing mini skirts fighting evil. that is not all that realistic, though game female characters have suffered worse.
Cameron never had a problem with the plot or film making take of wonder woman. he hated avengers and gotg because one gotg is irresponsible science fantasy as he calls it, something Christopher Nolan also implied and the other (avengers) just a cgi buffet with barely any story.
Don't you find it surreal that the producers of avengers confirmed what chris pine said in 2017 that IW will just be another cgi movie.
How could Chris Pine predict something in 2017 only for the mcu producers to confirm it in 2018 after the film was released. I only remembered Chris Pine take on Avengers because he was in Wonder Woman.
chris pine's prediction does prove all mcu movies are actually the same. so thatguy fails here too. lol
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 22:39:31 GMT
I used that Star Wars clip for the line. If there was a line I wanted from the Star Wars Christmas Special I would have used that.
Dude everyone knows that Cameron only makes remakes and sequels to other people movies.
Piranha 2- Did he make the 1st one? The Terminator- Based on an Outer Limits episode Aliens- Did he make the 1st one? The Abyss- The only original idea Cameron had, but as a kid T2- Bigger version of T1 True Lies- Remake of a French movie Titanic- Remake Avatar- Pocahontas, FernGully, Dances With Wolves, etc. etc.
But hey he keeps milking the ones that were the most popular. What are we up to on Terminator movies? He's making sure he makes Avatar 5 before the bubble bursts. How many deep sea documentaries did he make after Titanic?
Aliens was a good action movie, but there was no real story there. T2 was a remake to the 1st movie. It's the same as X1-X2 in just doing the same thing again, but going bigger. Avatar is a tech spec that people saw was just a bunch of other movies. And Titanic didn't do well because it was an achievement in storytelling. Titanic was the previous version of 50 Shades of Gray that had women running back to the theater. Also, Cameron craps on anything that hurts his popularity. You remember that crap storm when Wonder Woman came out? That's probably why he wants Linda Hamilton back for the next Terminator movie. So he can try to out do Wonder Woman. I'm surprised that he didn't say anything about that Terminator 2 remake called Days of Future Past. Probably because Singer went to him because he's some kind of authority on time travel...
Um, yeah.. so back to the lieing but the truth lies with the mcu since all mcu movies are the same, their fans say so, their actors say so and the directors says so. all mcu movies are more of the same than any other series, reason no one takes them seriously and call them real films.
Yikes, titanic is like 50 shades of grey? let me see. a great love story than transcends time, two amazing actors leo and kate who acted the hell out of the movie, a beautiful score by the wonderful james horner, ground breaking visual effects that pushes the story forward and 14 Oscars of merit. meanwhile mcu movies are so poorly written a writer like David finch will put it on the same level as 50 shades of grey.
nice try, but you cant pass off mcu idiotic way of film making as a cameron or xmen problem. thank goodness when DOFP was out not only did it kill winter solider's momentum in story telling and technicality but it also brought up the accusation Cameron stole the story when he was poor. thor 3 comes out and is dismissed as gotg remake by thor fans and critics. gotg 2 is dimissed as a retarded joke remake of GOTG 1, and so on...we now have the term mcu forumla that prove all mcu movies are the same.
also speaking of singer consulting with cameron you should read why cameron said gotg is garbage. cameron asked what was the consultant of gotg? there was none. good movies have consultants. Nolan confided in Jackman when they made the prestige together on how xmen helped him making batman. nolan used Steven spielberg as a consultant to make a good war movie for Dunkirk because he saw saving private ryan and wanted it to be the same.
mcu consults with kids to buy toys or not anyone at all, hence the outcome of their garbage childish movies that are all the same.
Are you reading a single word then making up the rest of the sentence? I said Titanic is the previous version of 50 Shades of Grey that had women running back to the theater to see it. How many romance movies make that kind of money? Dudes aren't rushing out to see Titanic.
How am I making the way MCU movies are a Cameron problem? I said he craps on stuff that will override his popularity. Are you some kind of parasite? You read something then just vomit it all back up. Everything you say in every post is the same thing. You even put in when I said that Singer's X-men movies are technically good like it was your idea. You are like Cameron. Get an original idea.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 22:44:48 GMT
Do you agree with James Cameron's criticism of Wonder Woman? In a way yes. people keep forgetting james cameron never bashed wonder woman as a film. that is the difference. he bashed avengers as a film because avengers is all cgi and explosions, disgracing the art of cinema. same as John Landis. Cameron's criticism of wonder woman is a common criticism we see in comics.Something even xmen comics can be criticised for, female characters are shown as very beautiful with big boobs, big breast extremely curvy wearing mini skirts fighting evil. that is not all that realistic, though game female characters have suffered worse.
Cameron never had a problem with the plot or film making take of wonder woman. he hated avengers and gotg because one gotg is irresponsible science fantasy as he calls it, something Christopher Nolan also implied and the other (avengers) just a cgi buffet with barely any story.
Don't you find it surreal that the producers of avengers confirmed what chris pine said in 2017 that IW will just be another cgi movie.
How could Chris Pine predict something in 2017 only for the mcu producers to confirm it in 2018 after the film was released. I only remembered Chris Pine take on Avengers because he was in Wonder Woman.
chris pine's prediction does prove all mcu movies are actually the same. so thatguy fails here too. lol
How many times are you going to post the same thing? Just make one post then put a link every time you want to say something. You posted that video already. Wait, do you have Alzheimer?
Also, you post a video of a guy trying to crap on a movie and doesn't know that Infinity War mean fighting over Infinity Stones. Not an ongoing war. Get a clue, kid.
Oh and Wonder Woman is a remake of Captain America First Avenger. And they go into a small town they are suppose to be liberating and blow it up in flashy costumes. Doesn't Pine crap on that too? Don't throw stones in a glass house.
Take note seahawksraawk00, he never addresses what Cameron said about Wonder Woman. He just glosses over it to bash on the MCU again.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 23:06:01 GMT
In a way yes. people keep forgetting james cameron never bashed wonder woman as a film. that is the difference. he bashed avengers as a film because avengers is all cgi and explosions, disgracing the art of cinema. same as John Landis. Cameron's criticism of wonder woman is a common criticism we see in comics.Something even xmen comics can be criticised for, female characters are shown as very beautiful with big boobs, big breast extremely curvy wearing mini skirts fighting evil. that is not all that realistic, though game female characters have suffered worse.
Cameron never had a problem with the plot or film making take of wonder woman. he hated avengers and gotg because one gotg is irresponsible science fantasy as he calls it, something Christopher Nolan also implied and the other (avengers) just a cgi buffet with barely any story.
Don't you find it surreal that the producers of avengers confirmed what chris pine said in 2017 that IW will just be another cgi movie.
How could Chris Pine predict something in 2017 only for the mcu producers to confirm it in 2018 after the film was released. I only remembered Chris Pine take on Avengers because he was in Wonder Woman.
chris pine's prediction does prove all mcu movies are actually the same. so thatguy fails here too. lol
How many times are you going to post the same thing? Just make one post then put a link every time you want to say something. You posted that video already. Wait, do you have Alzheimer?
Also, you post a video of a guy trying to crap on a movie and doesn't know that Infinity War mean fighting over Infinity Stones. Not an ongoing war. Get a clue, kid.
Oh and Wonder Woman is a remake of Captain America First Avenger. And they go into a small town they are suppose to be liberating and blow it up in flashy costumes. Doesn't Pine crap on that too? Don't throw stones in a glass house.
Take note seahawksraawk00 , he never addresses what Cameron said about Wonder Woman. He just glosses over it to bash on the MCU again. Technically I am an adult. reason I subscribed to serious grounded comic films and not the cgi shallow colourful mcu comedy that is clearly for kids.
Wonder Woman's origin story came out first. her movie is not a remake of CA 1 , its a superior version of CA 1. Better than even Black Panther.
Once again, you lied about me. boring. I addressed cameron's criticism of wonder woman and said I understood where he was coming from.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 4, 2018 23:19:11 GMT
They have a lot of CGI and acceptable stories. Not the worst that belongs to Transformers. Nobody would make a deal out of it except the MCU is so overwhelmingly popular that it will get singled out more. Jurassic World, Pirates of the Caribbean, Pacific Rim and other giant monster movies like Rampage, Godzilla, Skull Island are all the same too, tons of CGI and not the best story. moderators please keep it neutral, its laughable moderators are mcu defenders. talk of media bias.
MCU movies are singled out because they are the worst offenders.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 4, 2018 23:32:28 GMT
Do you agree with James Cameron's criticism of Wonder Woman? In a way yes. people keep forgetting james cameron never bashed wonder woman as a film. that is the difference. he bashed avengers as a film because avengers is all cgi and explosions, disgracing the art of cinema. same as John Landis. Cameron's criticism of wonder woman is a common criticism we see in comics.Something even xmen comics can be criticised for, female characters are shown as very beautiful with big boobs, big breast extremely curvy wearing mini skirts fighting evil. that is not all that realistic, though game female characters have suffered worse.
Cameron never had a problem with the plot or film making take of wonder woman. he hated avengers and gotg because one gotg is irresponsible science fantasy as he calls it, something Christopher Nolan also implied and the other (avengers) just a cgi buffet with barely any story.
Don't you find it surreal that the producers of avengers confirmed what chris pine said in 2017 that IW will just be another cgi movie.
How could Chris Pine predict something in 2017 only for the mcu producers to confirm it in 2018 after the film was released. I only remembered Chris Pine take on Avengers because he was in Wonder Woman.
chris pine's prediction does prove all mcu movies are actually the same. so thatguy fails here too. lol
They're all the same? I don't remember seeing another MCU film where almost every (main) character disappears at the end of the film. I don't remember another one where Cap and Iron Man fight each other almost to the death. Oh wait a minute, you're talking plot beats and formula's right? Alright, well, the X-Men film started doing that since the second X-Men film, regurgitating the same theme and plot beats of persecution of mutants and still haven't moved on from that, even in Logan. Either way, who cares what they say. They are;... wait for it..... .... COMIC BOOK MOVIES.... Jesus Christ, this seems to be something you get hung up over. Anyways, it's not worth arguing over it with a simpleton like you. But wouldn't you say though, character presentation and flaws, their story arc and everything is essential to the film's overall plot and help really drive the emotion and push the story? Because that's what you're arguing the MCU lacks apparently (which is far from the truth by the way) and it's what Cameron is saying Wonder Woman lacks as well. His exact words were, in comparison to Sarah Connor from the Terminator series: “Sarah Connor was not a beauty icon. She was strong, she was troubled, she was a terrible mother, and she earned the respect of the audience through pure grit."Cameron isn't simply criticizing Wonder Woman appearance, but her arc. The only notable trait Diana had was she was naive and yes, she overcomes it by the end, but with little difficulty. Everything came easily to her. That's not good storytelling. The MCU heroes at least struggle and bleed by the end of the film. And that struggle is what helps us invest in the characters so much regardless of how silly or CGI the film is.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 4, 2018 23:43:58 GMT
How many times are you going to post the same thing? Just make one post then put a link every time you want to say something. You posted that video already. Wait, do you have Alzheimer?
Also, you post a video of a guy trying to crap on a movie and doesn't know that Infinity War mean fighting over Infinity Stones. Not an ongoing war. Get a clue, kid.
Oh and Wonder Woman is a remake of Captain America First Avenger. And they go into a small town they are suppose to be liberating and blow it up in flashy costumes. Doesn't Pine crap on that too? Don't throw stones in a glass house.
Take note seahawksraawk00 , he never addresses what Cameron said about Wonder Woman. He just glosses over it to bash on the MCU again. Technically I am an adult. reason I subscribed to serious grounded comic films and not the cgi shallow colourful mcu comedy that is clearly for kids.
Wonder Woman's origin story came out first. her movie is not a remake of CA 1 , its a superior version of CA 1. Better than even Black Panther.
Once again, you lied about me. boring. I addressed cameron's criticism of wonder woman and said I understood where he was coming from.
Do you know who cries about being labeled a kid and cries about kid things? Kids.
How is Wonder Woman a superior movie when the end of Wonder Woman was nothing but CGI, explosions and fire? Also, Captain America's origin came out before this version of Wonder Woman's origin. And they stayed true to the Captain America origin from the comics. Also, Captain America debuted 7 months before Wonder Woman.
And no you didn't address it. You brushed it aside to bash on the MCU. I mean, what part of movie Wonder Woman has big breasts? Has on a mini skirt? And yes, Cameron did bash Wonder Woman as a film because he talked about the character as he minimally saw her and she is the movie. He saw a picture of her and decided that is what the movie is going to be. It's the same as a certain someone that goes around looking for videos and articles and decides that what is said. No matter how stupid the person in the video or article sounds.
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