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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 7, 2018 22:41:38 GMT
ac·count·a·ble əˈkoun(t)əb(ə)l adjective 1. (of a person, organization, or institution) required or expected to justify actions or decisions; responsible. "government must be accountable to its citizens" synonyms: responsible, liable, answerable; to blame "the government was held accountable for the food shortage" 2. explicable; understandable. Why shouldn't it matter? Disney is a company, not a robot. It's not as easy as we'd like to think it is. In the context regarding you, personally. Why is he accountable to you? To his employer, sure. While under employment, I can understand punishment...but before? If they didn't like his character they shouldn't have hired him. Who says he's accountable to me? I didn't fire him. Heck, I didn't even demand he be fired. Yes, people can still be held accountable before employment. A lot of big companies, I'd wager Disney most of all, include morality clauses in their contracts that may include actions during and before employment. They did like his character. It was his tweets they didn't care for.
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Post by ryboto on Aug 7, 2018 22:50:37 GMT
In the context regarding you, personally. Why is he accountable to you? To his employer, sure. While under employment, I can understand punishment...but before? If they didn't like his character they shouldn't have hired him. Who says he's accountable to me? I didn't fire him. Heck, I didn't even demand he be fired. Yes, people can still be held accountable before employment. A lot of big companies, I'd wager Disney most of all, include morality clauses in their contracts that may include actions during and before employment. They did like his character. It was his tweets they didn't care for. But employers don't punish after hiring for something publicly available before. They accepted him. Now they're backpedaling. A symptom of the SJW times. The tweets were part of his character at the time of hiring.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 7, 2018 22:53:58 GMT
Who says he's accountable to me? I didn't fire him. Heck, I didn't even demand he be fired. Yes, people can still be held accountable before employment. A lot of big companies, I'd wager Disney most of all, include morality clauses in their contracts that may include actions during and before employment. They did like his character. It was his tweets they didn't care for. But they don't punish after hiring. They accepted him. Now they're backpedaling. The tweets were part of his character at the time of hiring. They absolutely do punish after hiring. That's what the morality clause is for. It can't apply if employment hasn't been established first. That isn't what backpedaling means. They never said, "We are aware of and support his child abuse tweets." While the tweets were part of his past, the company was not aware of them.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 8, 2018 0:06:58 GMT
It's hard to feel bad for a guy who got fired over his tweets after he basically crusade against Roseanne over her tweets. It was karma.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 8, 2018 2:40:12 GMT
In my opinion, he'll likely have to spend some time proving himself all over again in the indie ranks before mainstream Hollywood "embraces" him again. He's already been tried and convicted of child molestation in the minds of most everyone who can parrot a popular opinion. He's not a safe bet for a mainstream studio at this time. The public will move on. He didn't commit any actual crimes, and he's made two hit movies. He'll land on his feet just fine. Sure it'll take time, but he'll be all right. Don't know about Bautista though. He might end up stroking out if he doesn't relax. Bautista can always go back to being a jabroni for Vince McMahon.
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Post by ryboto on Aug 8, 2018 11:23:01 GMT
But they don't punish after hiring. They accepted him. Now they're backpedaling. The tweets were part of his character at the time of hiring. They absolutely do punish after hiring. That's what the morality clause is for. It can't apply if employment hasn't been established first. That isn't what backpedaling means. They never said, "We are aware of and support his child abuse tweets." While the tweets were part of his past, the company was not aware of them. That's a lie. They would have been aware. It's absolutely backpedaling because it would have been scrutinized after the whole blog fiasco.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 8, 2018 11:53:34 GMT
But they don't punish after hiring. They accepted him. Now they're backpedaling. The tweets were part of his character at the time of hiring. They absolutely do punish after hiring. That's what the morality clause is for. It can't apply if employment hasn't been established first. That isn't what backpedaling means. They never said, "We are aware of and support his child abuse tweets." While the tweets were part of his past, the company was not aware of them. Maybe they never did any background checks in the past (they did hire a a child rapist to direct powder) but I highly doubt that Disney doesn't do background checks, especially with social media being a big thing even in 2012. Gunn even apologize for his offensive blog and tweets around the announcement of his hiring. Disney with out a doubt knew about Gunn "humor" and made him apologise for it to the public. Disney absolutely knew about and they obviously believe that it was done and over with back then.
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Post by ryboto on Aug 8, 2018 12:11:16 GMT
They absolutely do punish after hiring. That's what the morality clause is for. It can't apply if employment hasn't been established first. That isn't what backpedaling means. They never said, "We are aware of and support his child abuse tweets." While the tweets were part of his past, the company was not aware of them. Maybe they never did any background checks in the past (they did hire a a child rapist to direct powder) but I highly doubt that Disney doesn't do background checks, especially with social media being a big thing even in 2012. Gunn even apologize for his offensive blog and tweets around the announcement of his hiring. Disney with out a doubt knew about Gunn "humor" and made him apologise for it to the public. Disney absolutely knew about and they obviously believe that it was done and over with back then. And maybe they even tried to keep the tweets hush-hush at the time? Wonder why they didn't just tell him to delete them.
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