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Post by politicidal on Aug 6, 2018 17:37:43 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 6, 2018 20:24:17 GMT
Yeah no shit.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 8, 2018 0:04:26 GMT
But in doing so he also erased every movie that takes place after 1973...
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Post by summers8 on Aug 8, 2018 5:16:33 GMT
Dark Phoenix will be a bigger mistake.
this movie should never have been made.
Kinberg is not ready
the cast is too young
there was not enough time to build.
Now this movie can get cancelled with the focus on xforce and new mutants.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 9, 2018 21:06:38 GMT
First Class should have been a complete reboot of the series. That idiot Bryan Singer turned DOFP into another Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker film and shoved the previous continuity in there.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 10, 2018 0:55:15 GMT
First Class should have been a complete reboot of the series. That idiot Bryan Singer turned DOFP into another Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker film and shoved the previous continuity in there. Xavier had more screentime in DOFP than anyone else, my casual viewer. And First Class already had a few continuity nods like the opening, remember?
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 10, 2018 2:01:30 GMT
First Class should have been a complete reboot of the series. That idiot Bryan Singer turned DOFP into another Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker film and shoved the previous continuity in there. Xavier had more screentime in DOFP than anyone else, my casual viewer. And First Class already had a few continuity nods like the opening, remember? It doesn't matter that Xavier had a lot of screen time this was Wolverine's story, again. Singer killed off as many First Class mutants as he could and made a Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker film. Hugh Jackman as Wolverine was the only nod and that could have been glossed over. First Class had way too many continuity errors to be anything but a reboot until Singer got his hands on the franchise again.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 10, 2018 23:50:33 GMT
Xavier had more screentime in DOFP than anyone else, my casual viewer. And First Class already had a few continuity nods like the opening, remember? It doesn't matter that Xavier had a lot of screen time this was Wolverine's story, again. Singer killed off as many First Class mutants as he could and made a Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker film. Hugh Jackman as Wolverine was the only nod and that could have been glossed over. First Class had way too many continuity errors to be anything but a reboot until Singer got his hands on the franchise again. It was Xavier’s story according to Singer. You think it’s Wolverine’s story because he’s a time traveler? That’s like saying Deadpool 2 was Cable’s story since he is the time traveler in that movie. The opening of First Class is exactly the same as the opening of X1. So you’re wrong about that too.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 11, 2018 0:01:35 GMT
Wolverine is still the most interesting character--thanks in large part to Jackman. Thus the dilemma.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 11, 2018 0:41:38 GMT
It doesn't matter that Xavier had a lot of screen time this was Wolverine's story, again. Singer killed off as many First Class mutants as he could and made a Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker film. Hugh Jackman as Wolverine was the only nod and that could have been glossed over. First Class had way too many continuity errors to be anything but a reboot until Singer got his hands on the franchise again. It was Xavier’s story according to Singer. You think it’s Wolverine’s story because he’s a time traveler? That’s like saying Deadpool 2 was Cable’s story since he is the time traveler in that movie. The opening of First Class is exactly the same as the opening of X1. So you’re wrong about that too. If Xavier was so important why use Wolverine? Why not have Kitty Pryde travel back like she did in the comics? Or some other mutant? Singer has a Wolverine fetish and he shoehorned him into the story and made him one of the most important characters again shoving the old franchise back in and screwing everything up. Wow, the intro was the same! Another thing easily glossed over. Too bad everything else pointed to a full on reboot until Singer came back.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 11, 2018 2:23:22 GMT
It was Xavier’s story according to Singer. You think it’s Wolverine’s story because he’s a time traveler? That’s like saying Deadpool 2 was Cable’s story since he is the time traveler in that movie. The opening of First Class is exactly the same as the opening of X1. So you’re wrong about that too. If Xavier was so important why use Wolverine? Why not have Kitty Pryde travel back like she did in the comics? Or some other mutant? Singer has a Wolverine fetish and he shoehorned him into the story and made him one of the most important characters again shoving the old franchise back in and screwing everything up. Wow, the intro was the same! Another thing easily glossed over. Too bad everything else pointed to a full on reboot until Singer came back. Kitty did not exist in 1973, dude. Singer was producer on First Class and worked on the story, dude.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 11, 2018 3:19:27 GMT
If Xavier was so important why use Wolverine? Why not have Kitty Pryde travel back like she did in the comics? Or some other mutant? Singer has a Wolverine fetish and he shoehorned him into the story and made him one of the most important characters again shoving the old franchise back in and screwing everything up. Wow, the intro was the same! Another thing easily glossed over. Too bad everything else pointed to a full on reboot until Singer came back. Kitty did not exist in 1973, dude. Singer was producer on First Class and worked on the story, dude. So? They could have used a time machine. They didn't have to contrive her having the odd extra power of sending people's consciousness back in time. I have no doubt the Wolverine insertion came from him then. Luckily better writers stopped it from being a full on Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker movie.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 11, 2018 5:13:53 GMT
Kitty did not exist in 1973, dude. Singer was producer on First Class and worked on the story, dude. So? They could have used a time machine. They didn't have to contrive her having the odd extra power of sending people's consciousness back in time. I have no doubt the Wolverine insertion came from him then. Luckily better writers stopped it from being a full on Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker movie. They used that type of time travel from the original storyline. Did you even read it? Kitty was just a messenger and nothing of significance was done with her beyond that in that story. Thus she is easily replaceable, just like she was in the animated version. So why do you care about the time traveler being Kitty? Wolverine was the better choice because we actually saw his relationship with Charles in the original series.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 11, 2018 15:27:34 GMT
So? They could have used a time machine. They didn't have to contrive her having the odd extra power of sending people's consciousness back in time. I have no doubt the Wolverine insertion came from him then. Luckily better writers stopped it from being a full on Wolverine-Magneto: Stryker movie. They used that type of time travel from the original storyline. Did you even read it? Kitty was just a messenger and nothing of significance was done with her beyond that in that story. Thus she is easily replaceable, just like she was in the animated version. So why do you care about the time traveler being Kitty? Wolverine was the better choice because we actually saw his relationship with Charles in the original series. They could have used her in the same way as the messenger or herald. The one that gets Xavier on his adventure.
The animated version at lease merged two similar stories together. The movie version was bone throwing in saying "At least we have Kitty and Bishop in the movie."
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Post by summers8 on Aug 11, 2018 16:19:43 GMT
They used that type of time travel from the original storyline. Did you even read it? Kitty was just a messenger and nothing of significance was done with her beyond that in that story. Thus she is easily replaceable, just like she was in the animated version. So why do you care about the time traveler being Kitty? Wolverine was the better choice because we actually saw his relationship with Charles in the original series. They could have used her in the same way as the messenger or herald. The one that gets Xavier on his adventure.
The animated version at lease merged two similar stories together. The movie version was bone throwing in saying "At least we have Kitty and Bishop in the movie."
The animated version hardly ever merged two stories together since bishop came back for the legacy virus that was different, oh something mcu will never touch. Also if this is the same animated series that makes MCU look like the childish goofy stuff that it is, for your sake, don't talk about it.
the movie was hardly bone but a good reference to the comics since kitty was not born in 73 and not part of xmen first class, so still keeping her in the movie as she was so important in the story was okay. if you want to see worse try age of ultron. pym created ultron not iron man and pym was not even giving bones.
Though DOFP did more than just erase X3, it erased Winter Solider too. what happens when mcu xmen fails to beat DOFP? lets hope the genre will be dead by then to save mcu xmen any embarrassment.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 11, 2018 16:20:15 GMT
he made a worse mistake by not letting it end with apocalypse.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 11, 2018 16:37:23 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Aug 11, 2018 16:49:41 GMT
Egh, I preferred The Grand Budapest Hotel and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 11, 2018 22:32:18 GMT
They could have used her in the same way as the messenger or herald. The one that gets Xavier on his adventure.
The animated version at lease merged two similar stories together. The movie version was bone throwing in saying "At least we have Kitty and Bishop in the movie."
The animated version hardly ever merged two stories together since bishop came back for the legacy virus that was different, oh something mcu will never touch. Also if this is the same animated series that makes MCU look like the childish goofy stuff that it is, for your sake, don't talk about it.
the movie was hardly bone but a good reference to the comics since kitty was not born in 73 and not part of xmen first class, so still keeping her in the movie as she was so important in the story was okay. if you want to see worse try age of ultron. pym created ultron not iron man and pym was not even giving bones.
Though DOFP did more than just erase X3, it erased Winter Solider too. what happens when mcu xmen fails to beat DOFP? lets hope the genre will be dead by then to save mcu xmen any embarrassment.
Wow, you must have been in the gifted class. In the DoFP story, in the animated series, Bishop was sent back by Forge to stop the sentinel future and there was a traitor among the X-men. In Bishop's 1st appearances, he saw a message from Jean Grey saying there was a traitor among the X-men before getting blasted. The Witness was the last person to see the X-men alive. When Bishop saw Gambit he believed him to be the Witness and the traitor (it was actually Xavier). In the animated series, Mystique used the image of Gambit to assassinate Senator Kelly, making Bishop believe that he was the traitor. You see how these two stories are close to being the same? In the DoFP story in the comics, Mystique just became a random woman.
You make everything MCU vs X-men don't you... It's funny that more people talk about Winter Soldier than they do that remake of X2 and Terminator 2.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 13, 2018 18:23:27 GMT
The animated version hardly ever merged two stories together since bishop came back for the legacy virus that was different, oh something mcu will never touch. Also if this is the same animated series that makes MCU look like the childish goofy stuff that it is, for your sake, don't talk about it.
the movie was hardly bone but a good reference to the comics since kitty was not born in 73 and not part of xmen first class, so still keeping her in the movie as she was so important in the story was okay. if you want to see worse try age of ultron. pym created ultron not iron man and pym was not even giving bones.
Though DOFP did more than just erase X3, it erased Winter Solider too. what happens when mcu xmen fails to beat DOFP? lets hope the genre will be dead by then to save mcu xmen any embarrassment.
Wow, you must have been in the gifted class. In the DoFP story, in the animated series, Bishop was sent back by Forge to stop the sentinel future and there was a traitor among the X-men. In Bishop's 1st appearances, he saw a message from Jean Grey saying there was a traitor among the X-men before getting blasted. The Witness was the last person to see the X-men alive. When Bishop saw Gambit he believed him to be the Witness and the traitor (it was actually Xavier). In the animated series, Mystique used the image of Gambit to assassinate Senator Kelly, making Bishop believe that he was the traitor. You see how these two stories are close to being the same? In the DoFP story in the comics, Mystique just became a random woman.
You make everything MCU vs X-men don't you... It's funny that more people talk about Winter Soldier than they do that remake of X2 and Terminator 2.
Bottom line is this. Bishop's first appearance was only reference to the DOFP story , which was not a page by page adaption of the comics like the movie. no, I dont make everything about xmen vs mcu, I only talk of mcu based on who I am replying to as I know you talk about xmen with the mcu childish comedy approach, So I tend to expose more silliness of MCU with you.
If people talk of winter solder, it will be true but as you see they dont because not even winter solider that DOFP destroyed has given mcu any credibility or respect like xmen or batman, poor gunn huh? you can fight with jodi forster for calling your comic movies crap and not disney?mcu is seen as a joke with more and more people distances themselves from it. winter solider gets lost in the crowd of their 19 other cgi childish garbage movies.
So rip offs are your last card? still bashing the great James Cameron for telling us the truth about MCU? poor MCU, they has been making the same movie since iron man 1, the world coined the term mcu formula because as Tye Sheridan said, all their movies are the same. LOL. YEP A 22 yr kid can figure it out, talkless of a 60 year old like james cameron who is a credible film maker.
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