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Post by kanekikun on Aug 13, 2018 18:37:51 GMT
dofp was destroyed by guardains in 2014, gotg was the top 2014 cbm. it got better reviews and everything.
xmen actors and writers are just jealous.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 13, 2018 18:38:52 GMT
The animated version hardly ever merged two stories together since bishop came back for the legacy virus that was different, oh something mcu will never touch. Also if this is the same animated series that makes MCU look like the childish goofy stuff that it is, for your sake, don't talk about it.
the movie was hardly bone but a good reference to the comics since kitty was not born in 73 and not part of xmen first class, so still keeping her in the movie as she was so important in the story was okay. if you want to see worse try age of ultron. pym created ultron not iron man and pym was not even giving bones.
Though DOFP did more than just erase X3, it erased Winter Solider too. what happens when mcu xmen fails to beat DOFP? lets hope the genre will be dead by then to save mcu xmen any embarrassment.
Wow, you must have been in the gifted class. In the DoFP story, in the animated series, Bishop was sent back by Forge to stop the sentinel future and there was a traitor among the X-men. In Bishop's 1st appearances, he saw a message from Jean Grey saying there was a traitor among the X-men before getting blasted. The Witness was the last person to see the X-men alive. When Bishop saw Gambit he believed him to be the Witness and the traitor (it was actually Xavier). In the animated series, Mystique used the image of Gambit to assassinate Senator Kelly, making Bishop believe that he was the traitor. You see how these two stories are close to being the same? In the DoFP story in the comics, Mystique just became a random woman.
You make everything MCU vs X-men don't you... It's funny that more people talk about Winter Soldier than they do that remake of X2 and Terminator 2.
If anything dofp movie borrows from the loose version of TAS DOFP, as it was mystique that killed Trask/Kelly.
what do you think of TAS have more maturity than the MCU movies? surely that must be embarrassing.
Heck, even TAS took DOFP seriously, why is thor 3 called thor jokenock?
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 13, 2018 18:39:47 GMT
mystique was trying to kill Kelly in the original story too.
tas was full of silliness. way more silly than anything else in marvel.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 13, 2018 18:47:18 GMT
LO..Formershamd still hanging around. yawn.
try apologising for doxing, insulting blacks and jews. maybe I may reconsider taking you off ignore..nah, I doubt it. yawn to your next ban,
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 13, 2018 19:02:29 GMT
im me, not a sock. mystiq was the one always trying to kill the guy in dofp.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 13, 2018 19:13:22 GMT
LOL..Formershamd still hanging around. yawn. try apologising for doxing, insulting blacks and jews. maybe I may reconsider taking you off ignore..nah, I doubt it. yawn to your next ban, |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 19, 2018 22:53:07 GMT
They used that type of time travel from the original storyline. Did you even read it? Kitty was just a messenger and nothing of significance was done with her beyond that in that story. Thus she is easily replaceable, just like she was in the animated version. So why do you care about the time traveler being Kitty? Wolverine was the better choice because we actually saw his relationship with Charles in the original series. They could have used her in the same way as the messenger or herald. The one that gets Xavier on his adventure.
The animated version at lease merged two similar stories together. The movie version was bone throwing in saying "At least we have Kitty and Bishop in the movie."
Wolverine and The X-Men also replaced her. Pretty much every adaptation has considered her replaceable. |
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Post by politicidal on Aug 19, 2018 23:35:23 GMT
dofp was destroyed by guardains in 2014, gotg was the top 2014 cbm. it got better reviews and everything. 90% versus 91% on RT for the former and later. Both are separated box office wise by only $26 million. I'd say they were equals. Both a 9/10 in my book, alongside Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Why not be happy both studios did well? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 0:30:13 GMT
The Last Stand is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me lol. I'll freely admit that it is a huge turd & a gigantic mess (Brett Ratner is a hack & a POS human being esp hearing the way he treated Ellen Page on the set) . That being said, it featured one of the funniest lines in any comic book film ever ("I"M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!!!" )
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 20, 2018 11:50:04 GMT
dofp was destroyed by guardains in 2014, gotg was the top 2014 cbm. it got better reviews and everything. 90% versus 91% on RT for the former and later. Both are separated box office wise by only $26 million. I'd say they were equals. Both a 9/10 in my book, alongside Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Why not be happy both studios did well? because fox fans keep acting like dofp was perfect when the mcu beat it with a risky movie. |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 20, 2018 12:20:20 GMT
90% versus 91% on RT for the former and later. Both are separated box office wise by only $26 million. I'd say they were equals. Both a 9/10 in my book, alongside Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Why not be happy both studios did well? because fox fans keep acting like dofp was perfect when the mcu beat it with a risky movie. GotG DID NOT beat DOFP. How can a film that ends in a stupid dance off be better than one which ends in almost climatic perfection??? |
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 20, 2018 12:53:19 GMT
because fox fans keep acting like dofp was perfect when the mcu beat it with a risky movie. GotG DID NOT beat DOFP. How can a film that ends in a stupid dance off be better than one which ends in almost climatic perfection??? gotg did better reviews and made more money with a smaller budget. it also ended with the heroes using a primal cosmic force to save a world. dofp ended with xavier letting magneto go when he shouldve let him die like he deserved. and the idea that everything changed because mystique shot him was really stupid. |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 20, 2018 13:15:08 GMT
GotG DID NOT beat DOFP. How can a film that ends in a stupid dance off be better than one which ends in almost climatic perfection??? gotg did better reviews and made more money with a smaller budget. it also ended with the heroes using a primal cosmic force to save a world. dofp ended with xavier letting magneto go when he shouldve let him die like he deserved. and the idea that everything changed because mystique shot him was really stupid. GOTG ended with Quill dancing during the height of the scene. Think about that. The whole movie, first and second acts building up to that climatic moment. Fpr him to do dance off with Ronan. Hahahahahahah. Is that a satisfying payoff? If your 5 year olds yes. DOFP built Xavier and Ravens character thoroughly throughout to the point where she makes a critical choice to drop the gun and change history in that climactic scene. No silly dance offs distracting Magneto and no silly childish CRAP about turd blossoms. |
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 20, 2018 13:28:37 GMT
gotg did better reviews and made more money with a smaller budget. it also ended with the heroes using a primal cosmic force to save a world. dofp ended with xavier letting magneto go when he shouldve let him die like he deserved. and the idea that everything changed because mystique shot him was really stupid. GOTG ended with Quill dancing during the height of the scene. Think about that. The whole movie, first and second acts building up to that climatic moment. Fpr him to do dance off with Ronan. Hahahahahahah. Is that a satisfying payoff? If your 5 year olds yes. DOFP built Xavier and Ravens character thoroughly throughout to the point where she makes a critical choice to drop the gun and change history in that climactic scene. No silly dance offs distracting Magneto and no silly childish CRAP about turd blossoms. gotg ended with them uniting to use the power stone to destroy ronan. thats right there in the movie and was the real climax, the dancing was just to get them there.
dofp made us think that after everything magneto had already done beforehand would all just be erased because mystique shot him. its dumb, because time already would have changed for the worse from what he did compared to her shooting trask, and Xavier just letting him go shows what a bad hero he is.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 20, 2018 13:32:38 GMT
Now I'm waiting for the film that will erase DoFP.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 22, 2018 12:35:51 GMT
They could have used her in the same way as the messenger or herald. The one that gets Xavier on his adventure.
The animated version at lease merged two similar stories together. The movie version was bone throwing in saying "At least we have Kitty and Bishop in the movie."
Wolverine and The X-Men also replaced her. Pretty much every adaptation has considered replaceable. Because every version after the 90s series is following that version instead of the comics. None of them realize how good the character is. Only ever Wolverine. |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 22, 2018 15:51:28 GMT
They could have used her in the same way as the messenger or herald. The one that gets Xavier on his adventure.
The animated version at lease merged two similar stories together. The movie version was bone throwing in saying "At least we have Kitty and Bishop in the movie."
Wolverine and The X-Men also replaced her. Pretty much every adaptation has considered replaceable. I wonder what these mcu crazed fanboys think of disney replacing marvel with disney toy commercials and not actual marvel content stories. Yes, kitty has been replaced but the content of the adaption has never changed. at the most important core, dofp was a masterpiece two part drama about what happens when liberty dies in a dystopian setting of genocide and the quest for survival. That is the story. you can replace and rearrange characters but the core content of the story must not change when you are adapting.
Did the movie get that right? YES.
Did XMEN TAS get that right? YES
Did WATX get that right? YES.
This is the reason most mcu movies like Thor 3, Age of Ultron, Iron Man 2, GOTG, Iron Man 3 are complete failures and disgraced themselves compared to films like DOFP. they changed the entire content of the story for the opposite. goofy kids stuff to dumb things down and cash in and like Charzino said...dance offs.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 22, 2018 15:53:05 GMT
dofp never made much sense to start with, the idea tha mutants could lose so badly to sentinels and no other heroes could stop them too was alwatys silly.
and dofp lost to guardians of the galaxy. 2014 was mcus year again.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 22, 2018 15:56:46 GMT
Reply to The Shape.One thing I also loved about the DOFP movie. they kept the original time travel element. that to me is even more important than who gets to go back to the past. Kitty or Wolverine and if memory serves me in WATX, Lorna or Marrow or Xavier were the ones who went back???
I always thought it was a genius concept how it was not a time machine in the oringal comics but it was someone who had the mutant powers to send back the consciousness of a mind back to their younger self. that was brilliant and original writing on Chris Claremont's part, so to see that in the movie was great. it made the movie more unique and intriguing as a time travel tale. LOL...A studio like disney will likely have gone for a time machine as disney may feel kids and the dumb masses won't get the subconscious time travel thing, it will be too complicated to understand..so they will dumb it down to time machine with the excuse of time machine are so common in movies anyway.
Men...I have so made peace with the greatness of xmen in comic films...bring on the idiocy of MCU xmen.lol.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 22, 2018 16:20:17 GMT
they used a time machine in tas though. isnt tas supposed to be good to you?
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