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Post by dazz on Aug 9, 2018 7:53:24 GMT
And you say you're not biased... I'm not biased. I'm just pointing out that it's pathetic for any movie studio to bully the Academy into creating a category just so they can say they got a non-technical Oscar. It is biased when you point the blame at one specific arm of that studio, the arm you particularly hate, to the point where you like every even halfway seemingly negative MCU post anyone ever makes.
SW is more likely a motivator behind this because whilst Marvel has thrived being the popcorn blockbuster juggernaut that continues to produce a mere 2-3 films per year but rakes in billions at the box office by them, who keep leaving their fans happy and fulfilled with each of their new movies, and the new movies keep exceeding prior ones at the box office, SW on the other hand has seen it's box office shrink despite only releasing 1 film per calendar year, a sizeable and vocal sect of their fans revolt against their films, constantly mired with behind the scenes issues and just produced their highest budget film which became the lowest grossing in the films franchise, one needs a shot in the arm in some way the other doesn't.
I mean if you think the MCU are crying over not getting Oscar noms then your a bit of a dip, even if they were the studio makes enough money they can wipe the tears away, blow their noses and wipe the arses of every person employed by Marvel Studios each with a separate $100 bill for not only each person but each action, they don't give a fuck mate.
Also why is now technical noms and Oscars meaningless? I recall you frequently crowing about the DCEU's technical Oscar win for quite a while now, either the technical awards mean shit or they mean something they don't differ depending on the argument you want to make, unless you want to look like a flip flopping fuck wit?
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 9, 2018 8:32:42 GMT
SW is more likely a motivator behind this No, MCU is the most likely motivator. Star Wars has already gotten nominations for Oscars in 2 non-technical categories (Best Picture and Best Supporting Actor). It's MCU that after 20 movies still has never gotten any Oscar nomination in a non-technical category. That's embarrassing. And that's why Disney bullied the Academy to create this new category so MCU can finally get a non-technical Oscar. Also why is now technical noms and Oscars meaningless? I recall you frequently crowing about the DCEU's technical Oscar win It isn't now. It's always been. The non-technical categories (producing, directing, acting, writing) have always been more prestigious than the technical (categories (e.g. CGI). And I've never crowed about any technical Oscar nominations or wins. You're confused because what I have mentioned many times is WB being the only studio to get an Oscar nomination for a superhero movie in a non-technical category (Heath Ledger for Best Supporting Actor), until this year when Fox became only the 2nd studio to get an Oscar nomination for a superhero movie in a non-technical category (Logan for Adapted Screenplay). And MCU Dictator Kevin Feige really wants an Oscar nomination in a non-technical category because he knows that none of the money that MCU makes at the box office means shit without any Oscar nominations in a non-technical category. It's no different than how athletes can make lots of money an be given lost of awards, but they'll be the first ones to say that none of htea means as much as a winning a championship That's why LeBron James took his talents to South Beach. LeBron had on a scoring title and multiple MVPs, but hadn't won a championship. So he left Cleveland and went to Miami to win a championship. Same with Kevin Durant. He had won an MVP and multiple scoring titles, but hadn't won a championship. So he left OKC and went to Golden State to win a championship. And same with MCU Dictator Kevin Feige. It just really bugs Feige that WB and Fox both have Oscar nominations for superhero movies in non-technical categories but MCU after 20 movies has never gotten an Oscar nomination in a non-technical category. That's why he gt Disney to bully the Academy into creating this new category so MCU can finally get an Oscar in a non-technical category.
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Post by dazz on Aug 9, 2018 11:06:27 GMT
SW is more likely a motivator behind this No, MCU is the most likely motivator. Star Wars has already gotten nominations for Oscars in 2 non-technical categories (Best Picture and Best Supporting Actor). It's MCU that after 20 movies still has never gotten any Oscar nomination in a non-technical category. That's embarrassing. And that's why Disney bullied the Academy to create this new category so MCU can finally get a non-technical Oscar. Also why is now technical noms and Oscars meaningless? I recall you frequently crowing about the DCEU's technical Oscar win It isn't now. It's always been. The non-technical categories (producing, directing, acting, writing) have always been more prestigious than the technical (categories (e.g. CGI). And I've never crowed about any technical Oscar nominations or wins. You're confused because what I have mentioned many times is WB being the only studio to get an Oscar nomination for a superhero movie in a non-technical category (Heath Ledger for Best Supporting Actor), until this year when Fox became only the 2nd studio to get an Oscar nomination for a superhero movie in a non-technical category (Logan for Adapted Screenplay). And MCU Dictator Kevin Feige really wants an Oscar nomination in a non-technical category because he knows that none of the money that MCU makes at the box office means shit without any Oscar nominations in a non-technical category. It's no different than how athletes can make lots of money an be given lost of awards, but they'll be the first ones to say that none of htea means as much as a winning a championship That's why LeBron James took his talents to South Beach. LeBron had on a scoring title and multiple MVPs, but hadn't won a championship. So he left Cleveland and went to Miami to win a championship. Same with Kevin Durant. He had won an MVP and multiple scoring titles, but hadn't won a championship. So he left OKC and went to Golden State to win a championship. And same with MCU Dictator Kevin Feige. It just really bugs Feige that WB and Fox both have Oscar nominations for superhero movies in non-technical categories but MCU after 20 movies has never gotten an Oscar nomination in a non-technical category. That's why he gt Disney to bully the Academy into creating this new category so MCU can finally get an Oscar in a non-technical category. Yes 40 years ago, but Star Wars now as I said is seeing it's BO shrink, it just lost money for the first time ever, filmed their most expensive film to the lowest gross in franchise history, has created a more toxic environment amongst it's fanbase, failed to deliver on promises made, has had constant issues behind the scenes and so on, Marvel however are enjoying overwhelming critical and fan response & success, growing box offices per franchise, higher grosses annually and fans are practically salivating at the whiff of their upcoming projects.
Doesn't matter that SW got Oscar noms 40 years ago today Marvel are cock of the walk and swinging their big dick about like no ones business, and heres the thing different people have different standards, also the analogy is bullshit, the BO is the championship nimrod that's the one where they prove their worth, because it's not appealing to 50 journalist in the HFP like the Golden Globes, it's not appealing to a few thousand on average crusty old white fucks in the academy, but appealing to the hundreds of millions of paying customers who make or whether you are a success or not.
Also if Feige was so desperate for an Oscar nom like you say why isn't he actively showing an interest in securing one properly, I mean seriously you think it makes more sense Feige would try and get Disney to bully the academy into changing their practises rather than simply hire a sure fire Oscar baiting team to do a one off story set in the MCU but disconnected from it to do so? you good sir are a flaming plonker, you know that right?
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 9, 2018 15:22:07 GMT
the BO is the championship nimrod that's the one where they prove their worth BO means shit without the non-technical Oscars. Transformers and Fast and Furious have had huge BO, but like MCU no non-technical Oscars. The golden statue is Hollywood's equivalent of a Super Bowl ring. It represents the cream of the crop. if Feige was so desperate for an Oscar nom like you say why isn't he actively showing an interest in securing one properly Because MCU after 20 movies has never gotten any non-technical Oscar nomination and MCU Dictator Kevin Feige knows that MCU will never get it properly. That's why Feige got Disney to bully the Academy into creating this new category so MCU can finally get it. you think it makes more sense Feige would try and get Disney to bully the academy into changing their practises rather than simply hire a sure fire Oscar baiting team to do a one off story set in the MCU but disconnected from it to do so? you good MCU's big tagline "It's all connected." Movies, TV shows. Even Inhumans. They're all part of MCU. "It's all connected." So MCU Dictator knows that he's painted himself into a corner with that tagline and he can't make one-off movies like WB can with Joaquin Pheonix's Joker movie.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 9, 2018 15:47:26 GMT
the BO is the championship nimrod that's the one where they prove their worth BO means shit without the non-technical Oscars. Transformers and Fast and Furious have had huge BO, but like MCU no non-technical Oscars. The golden statue is Hollywood's equivalent of a Super Bowl ring. It represents the cream of the crop. if Feige was so desperate for an Oscar nom like you say why isn't he actively showing an interest in securing one properly Because MCU after 20 movies has never gotten any non-technical Oscar nomination and MCU Dictator Kevin Feige knows that MCU will never get it properly. That's why Feige got Disney to bully the Academy into creating this new category so MCU can finally get it. you think it makes more sense Feige would try and get Disney to bully the academy into changing their practises rather than simply hire a sure fire Oscar baiting team to do a one off story set in the MCU but disconnected from it to do so? you good MCU's big tagline "It's all connected." Movies, TV shows. Even Inhumans. They're all part of MCU. "It's all connected." So MCU Dictator knows that he's painted himself into a corner with that tagline and he can't make one-off movies like WB can with Joaquin Pheonix's Joker movie. Tin foil hates for the win. Get a life loser.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 9, 2018 16:13:53 GMT
The Oscars have been pretentious snobs for some time now anyway. And they have been biased against blockbusters. I wouldn't mind that blockbusters don't win if they weren't so clearly biased against them, at least in this modern day.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 9, 2018 17:39:06 GMT
I still don't understand the meaning behind this award. Does this mean that from this point on, only indie films will be nominated for Best Picture? I get that the Oscars are desperate for better ratings next year, but this just seems like an award that might as well be exclusive to Disney movies at this point, just like the Best Animated Feature award.
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Post by dazz on Aug 9, 2018 18:01:58 GMT
I still don't understand the meaning behind this award. Does this mean that from this point on, only indie films will be nominated for Best Picture? I get that the Oscars are desperate for better ratings next year, but this just seems like an award that might as well be exclusive to Disney movies at this point, just like the Best Animated Feature award. This maybe shouldn't be a category that gets nominations, just go by box office and the 5 or 10 highest grossing films of the previous year are automatically nominated, but then the winner is actually voted on by the academy, you know it acknowledges the popular vote of the audience & gives the popular films a major place at the awards.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 9, 2018 18:29:57 GMT
I rarely agree with the Oscars anyway. I haven't watched them in years. It's all political.
Truth be told this is just a way to make sure every movie gets an award by the end of the night so no one gets offended.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 9, 2018 18:48:12 GMT
What I find funny is many actors hate it but they wont mention the elephant in the room. black panther.
cant blame them. they dont need to destroy their careers for any chance they might be racist.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 9, 2018 19:33:29 GMT
If you can't make good films, bully the Academy to give out mtv awards
"Films awarded with Oscars tend to be better than films not awarded with Oscars" is certainly not something I agree with.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 9, 2018 22:02:58 GMT
this just seems like an award that might as well be exclusive to Disney movies at this point Exactly. This award will be exclusive for MCU movies so MCU can claim the got non-technical Oscars. That's why Disney bullied the Academy into creating this new category for MCU movies.
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Post by dazz on Aug 10, 2018 3:26:06 GMT
this just seems like an award that might as well be exclusive to Disney movies at this point Exactly. This award will be exclusive for MCU movies so MCU can claim the got non-technical Oscars. That's why Disney bullied the Academy into creating this new category for MCU movies. shut up retard.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 10, 2018 3:34:44 GMT
If you can't make good films, bully the Academy to give out mtv awards
Now that is interesting.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Aug 10, 2018 3:42:46 GMT
I know right? You never call someone with a disability the r-word, itโs just wrong.
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Post by dazz on Aug 10, 2018 7:46:44 GMT
I know right? You never call someone with a disability the r-word, itโs just wrong. You're right I shouldn't have said that, I'm sorry to DC-Fan for calling you that, I should have remained true to my nature and simply have said please shut up with your incessant insipid babbling and spewing of this endless fountain of mindless verbal diarrhoea you gormless twat, I simply ask if he can you forgive me, and humbly ask that those others who I may have also offended to also forgive me indiscretion this one time?
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Post by miike80 on Aug 10, 2018 7:54:45 GMT
MCU is so fucking pathetic. They can't get any non-technical Oscars so they bully the Academy into creating a category so they can finally get a non-technical Oscar. But that could also mean DCEU movies have chance for an award. Oh, wait, those are not that popular, my bad!
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Post by darkpast on Aug 10, 2018 14:19:30 GMT
MCU is so fucking pathetic. They can't get any non-technical Oscars so they bully the Academy into creating a category so they can finally get a non-technical Oscar. But that could also mean DCEU movies haveย chance for an award. Oh, wait, those are not that popular, my bad! They win based on merit, Suicide Squad has a real Oscar
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 10, 2018 14:25:24 GMT
But that could also mean DCEU movies have chance for an award. Oh, wait, those are not that popular, my bad! They win based on merit, Suicide Squad has a real Oscar well played Sir, also Critics choice awards. And DC has other Oscars too.
Fox-Men was deservedly close to a core Oscar (best original SP) this year with Logan.
The only franchise in desperate need for an Oscar award after 20 movies (LOL) is good old MCU. The popularity Oscar should serve as a solid consolation price so that MCU fans can compensate. In Disney we trust.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 10, 2018 14:38:48 GMT
They win based on merit, Suicide Squad has a real Oscar well played Sir, also Critics choice awards. And DC has other Oscars too.
Fox-Men was deservedly close to a core Oscar (best original SP) this year with Logan.
The only franchise in desperate need for an Oscar award after 20 movies (LOL) is good old MCU. The popularity Oscar should serve as a solid consolation price so that MCU fans can compensate. In Disney we trust.
so they chose to bribe their way. am glad at least that the reaction has been met with negativity all across the board. if mcu movies never had credibility before, they don't know what it is now.
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