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Post by hi224 on Aug 8, 2018 23:10:27 GMT
thoughts.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Aug 8, 2018 23:12:26 GMT
Are you about to see a proctologist?
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Post by James Bond on Aug 9, 2018 0:08:20 GMT
When Jon Schnepp's family has to start a GoFundMe campaign to pay for his medical bills, yes, healthcare's a pain in the ass.
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Post by ant-mac on Aug 9, 2018 0:31:35 GMT
No, we've had universal healthcare in my country for decades, as have all other civilized - and some not quite so civilized - countries.
About a decade ago, my child had to have a kidney removed. It was an upsetting time for everyone involved. However, the fact that he received first-class healthcare for free certainly removed a lot of the stress from the situation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 0:33:12 GMT
It is in America, with the poorly realized insurance system. Obama was at least taking a step in the right direction, in that the theory of insurance is the more people who pay in, the cheaper the premiums. I'm not saying go to single-payer, because that has its own problems.
For me, some of the problems with the insurance model, besides cost:
Not every provider accepts every insurance plan, so if you really want to go to one you prefer, you could be paying higher cost, or the whole cost out of pocket.
Pre-existing conditions should be covered. How to allow for the extra cost is tricky, unless you charge those people higher premiums - but it's still got to be affordable.
There's not enough competition between insurance providers, who should also be non-profit organizations. Maximizing shareholder value off the back of healthcare is obscene. [Not sure what to do about pharmaceutical companies; that's a topic for another day]
Without universal subscription, providers are charging people with insurance for the cost of care of people without it. I object to this.
I believe the U.S. pays the highest cost per capita for healthcare but is not number 1 in results.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 0:33:59 GMT
No, we've had universal healthcare in my country for decades, as have all other civilized - and some not quite so civilized - countries.
About a decade ago, my child had to have a kidney removed. It was an upsetting time for everyone involved. However, the fact that he received first-class healthcare for free certainly removed a lot of the stress from the situation.
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Post by ant-mac on Aug 9, 2018 0:53:29 GMT
No, we've had universal healthcare in my country for decades, as have all other civilized - and some not quite so civilized - countries.
About a decade ago, my child had to have a kidney removed. It was an upsetting time for everyone involved. However, the fact that he received first-class healthcare for free certainly removed a lot of the stress from the situation.
Sorry to hear about your child. How long was the waiting time between diagnosis and the surgery? A matter of a few days. Somewhere between a week and a fortnight if I remember correctly. He went in
He was diagnosed and treated in the Women's and Children's Hospital in my state capital. It involved two stays there. The first one which led to the diagnosis and a return trip for the surgery. Fortunately, we lived down there at the time, so travel was not an issue. I slept in a cot beside his bed during both visits.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 0:59:33 GMT
Sorry to hear about your child. How long was the waiting time between diagnosis and the surgery? A matter of a few days. Somewhere between a week and a fortnight if I remember correctly. He went in
He was diagnosed and treated in the Women's and Children's Hospital in my state capital. It involved two stays there. The first one which led to the diagnosis and a return trip for the surgery. Fortunately, we lived down there at the time, so travel was not an issue. I slept in a cot beside his bed during both visits.
So it was pretty much emergency surgery? That's too bad. I asked because non-emergency stuff can take months or more in some universal healthcare systems. |
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Post by ant-mac on Aug 9, 2018 1:03:14 GMT
A matter of a few days. Somewhere between a week and a fortnight if I remember correctly. He went in
He was diagnosed and treated in the Women's and Children's Hospital in my state capital. It involved two stays there. The first one which led to the diagnosis and a return trip for the surgery. Fortunately, we lived down there at the time, so travel was not an issue. I slept in a cot beside his bed during both visits.
So it was pretty much emergency surgery? That's too bad. I asked because non-emergency stuff can take months or more in some universal healthcare systems. It was a serious condition, but not immediately life-threatening.
He went back to school during the interim, but obviously under closer than normal scrutiny and reduced physical activities.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Aug 9, 2018 2:30:10 GMT
USA Healthcare system is now about sucking non-rich people dry.
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Post by darkknightofgotham on Aug 9, 2018 3:42:15 GMT
The cost of healthcare, yes. Most definitely. Healthcare in the US is the biggest for-profit industry there is.
To bad nothing will ever be truly done about it though. Obamacare fixed a few of the problems (pre-existing conditions), but it failed to adress the ridiculous cost of said insurance.
The only people who can afford healthcare are the super rich or poor (who get government help). The middle class get screwed every time.
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Post by pippinmaniac on Aug 9, 2018 18:24:34 GMT
Healthcare will bankrupt America if something isn't done soon.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 9, 2018 19:44:58 GMT
Are you about to see a proctologist? 
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 9, 2018 19:49:02 GMT
No, we've had universal healthcare in my country for decades, as have all other CIVILIZED- and some not quite so civilized - countries.
About a decade ago, my child had to have a kidney removed. It was an upsetting time for everyone involved. However, the fact that he received first-class healthcare for free certainly removed a lot of the stress from the situation.
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