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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 9, 2018 15:55:42 GMT
if using a guys car is stealing, then superman and batman steal from the community too. 1st, Superman doesn't steal cars, he doesn't need to. 2nd, Batman has his own car. When you already drive the Batmobile, why would you want to steal another car? 3rd, I'm not referring to Peter stealing Flash's car. Yes, Peter did steal Flash's car, but I had forgotten about that until someone mentioned it last week. I'm referring to Peter stealing from his community.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 9, 2018 15:56:44 GMT
I'm not referring to Peter stealing Flash's car. I had forgotten about that until someone mentioned it last week. I'm referring to Peter stealing from his community. And what did he steal from the community? Basically, money. Money? You mentioned money, but where? In SMH. You're just making up shit I'm not making up anything. It happened in the movie.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 9, 2018 15:57:45 GMT
if using a guys car is stealing, then superman and batman steal from the community too. Superman does share responsibility for what happened to Smallville in Man of Steel, so much destruction, injury, and possibly death but DC-Fan won't admit it.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 9, 2018 15:58:04 GMT
if using a guys car is stealing, then superman and batman steal from the community too. 1st, Superman doesn't steal cars, he doesn't need to. 2nd, Batman has his own car. When you already drive the Batmobile, why would you want to steal another car? 3rd, I'm not referring to Peter stealing Flash's car. Yes, Peter did steal Flash's car, but I had forgotten about that until someone mentioned it last week. I'm referring to Peter stealing from his community. superman stole clothes batman steals money and resources peter didn't steal anything, he doesn't kill people either unlike raimi spidey.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 9, 2018 15:58:09 GMT
And what did he steal from the community? Basically, money. Money? You mentioned money, but where? In SMH. Be specific. Elaborate and enlighten us. Which scene in the movie did Spider-Man steal money? And Batman and Superman have stolen plenty from their respective communities and cities
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 9, 2018 16:01:27 GMT
if using a guys car is stealing, then superman and batman steal from the community too. 1st, Superman doesn't steal cars, he doesn't need to. 2nd, Batman has his own car. When you already drive the Batmobile, why would you want to steal another car? 3rd, I'm not referring to Peter stealing Flash's car. Yes, Peter did steal Flash's car, but I had forgotten about that until someone mentioned it last week. I'm referring to Peter stealing from his community. 1st, they know that you idiot. Read more carefully. 2nd, they know that you idiot. Read more carefully. 3rd, if you want to save yourself from further embarrassment, stop talking now.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 9, 2018 16:02:49 GMT
And what did he steal from the community? Basically, money. Money? You mentioned money, but where? In SMH. You're just making up shit I'm not making up anything. It happened in the movie. So where's the footage? Post a clip from YouTube...
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 9, 2018 17:46:34 GMT
You remembered it enough to make a thread about it. Exactly! These troll threads just get lamer. They are not even trying to be original anymore. Oh and look we have 2 pages of discussion on this movie right here. So I guess people remember it.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 9, 2018 18:00:24 GMT
You remembered it enough to make a thread about it. Exactly! These troll threads just get lamer. They are not even trying to be original anymore. Oh and look we have 2 pages of discussion on this movie right here. So I guess people remember it. Yawn. Troll this troll that. Dont bother repyling if you're not going to discuss the topic at hand. Im open to genuine rebuttal, yet so far no one has been able to make a case why Homecoming is a memorable film relative to Raimis. Do you have a answer? I will listen.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 9, 2018 18:06:05 GMT
I didn't think it was that great. It's mostly a SJW appeasing film anyway.
I'm not sure what the obsession with having Peter in high school is. They've done this every movie and there's really no point. He's been out of high school for decades in the comics.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 9, 2018 18:07:15 GMT
it's memorable for focusing on the high school stuff instead of wasting it like raimi did. Even ASM ignored a lot of it. I dunno why everyone keeps saying stuff about sjw though, it wouldn't make sense for a school in nyc to be all white kids.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 9, 2018 18:09:43 GMT
it's memorable for focusing on the high school stuff instead of wasting it like raimi did. Even ASM ignored a lot of it. I dunno why everyone keeps saying stuff about sjw though, it wouldn't make sense for a school in nyc to be all white kids. Focusing on the high school stuff. Thats it? Thats the best you can come up with. (Spiderman 1 already dealt with the high school stuff better with a more believable bully in flash)
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Post by charzhino on Aug 9, 2018 18:19:34 GMT
I didn't think it was that great. It's mostly a SJW appeasing film anyway. I'm not sure what the obsession with having Peter in high school is. They've done this every movie and there's really no point. He's been out of high school for decades in the comics. The SJW angle was certainly a put off. I mean how can Flash now be a geeky indian kid who we are somehow meant to believe is a jock?
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Post by charzhino on Aug 9, 2018 18:22:32 GMT
That they were the first will of course always give it an advantage anyway. A slim advantage if that. The original batman and Hulk were overtaken with newer remakes later on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 18:26:03 GMT
Fun Fact: Homecoming is the only MCU movie that I do not own on Blu Ray and have zero desire to ever watch again
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 9, 2018 18:28:25 GMT
Basically, money. In SMH. I'm not making up anything. It happened in the movie. So where's the footage? Post a clip from YouTube... I think I figured out why he is being so vague. He wants us all to rewatch Homecoming to look for it. He is a secret fan of the Movie and wants everyone to rewatch it. That's the Optimist Explanation. The Pessimist Explanation is he's making it up. The Realist Explanation is he mis-remembered thought he had a good point against Homecoming. He got to far in and now has to be vague when asked directly.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 9, 2018 18:28:52 GMT
it's memorable for focusing on the high school stuff instead of wasting it like raimi did. Even ASM ignored a lot of it. I dunno why everyone keeps saying stuff about sjw though, it wouldn't make sense for a school in nyc to be all white kids. Focusing on the high school stuff. Thats it? Thats the best you can come up with. (Spiderman 1 already dealt with the high school stuff better with a more believable bully in flash) yeah, because the high school stuff got worked into the plot in ways the other movies never bothered. and flash was no threat in the first movie, at all. modern bullies arent like that anymore.
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Post by bud47 on Aug 9, 2018 18:42:26 GMT
it's memorable for focusing on the high school stuff instead of wasting it like raimi did. Even ASM ignored a lot of it. I dunno why everyone keeps saying stuff about sjw though, it wouldn't make sense for a school in nyc to be all white kids. Focusing on the high school stuff. Thats it? Thats the best you can come up with. (Spiderman 1 already dealt with the high school stuff better with a more believable bully in flash) Not every comic book movie needs to be game-changing, ground-breaking and transcendent. Michael Keaton's performance was memorable as was the fairy boat rescue scene, with the assist from Iron Man (a first for a solo Spider-Man film). Spidey's high tech suit and some of it's features brought something new to the character and it was refreshing to see a Spider-Man out of the typical New York City setting. And most of all, it's the first Spider-Man film to be part of a larger MCU universe. So the possibilities are greater going forward. If they had followed the standard Spider-Man origin story, people would have complained even more for not bringing anything new to the table. After the Amazing Spider-Man films, they had to do something different to get people interested. I'm ok with some of the changes they made, even if it's not what I would have preferred. Is it the most memorable. No, but it's not forgettable either.
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 9, 2018 18:44:41 GMT
it's memorable for focusing on the high school stuff instead of wasting it like raimi did. Even ASM ignored a lot of it. I dunno why everyone keeps saying stuff about sjw though, it wouldn't make sense for a school in nyc to be all white kids. Focusing on the high school stuff. Thats it? Thats the best you can come up with. (Spiderman 1 already dealt with the high school stuff better with a more believable bully in flash) I'll always be a fan of Sam's first 2, but he gypped us out of having Spiderman as a kid. We got 1/2 a movie with him in highschool. I kind of like to see Spiderman deal with highschool more than an 1 hours or 2 hours on film (TASM he graduated in second so we got 2hrs). I remember High School being angsty, cruel, fun, stressful, and emotion filled. College was a breeze comparatively and so was young adulthood. I'd like to see that pressure + the pressure of being a hero more. The pressure changes in College and Adulthood, but I'd like to see more of the sharp pressure High School can bring. (The pressure doesn't actually change much it's how we interpret it. As a kid everything is more focused and seems bigger) I wouldn't say Homecoming is more memorable to me than Spiderman 1 and 2. (Also Spiderman 3 is more memorable too but in a bad way) I say it's more memorable than TASM 1 and 2. Some of it is Sam's Spiderman was the first big comicbook movie that embraced the look and feel of the comics after the near death of the genre. (Xmen got the feel but not the look) And basically they were better for the most part. Rewatching them I cringe hard at some of Sam's choices of using quick zoom, dutch angles, and the like. (Fucking has used them since Evil Dead so I can't fault the guy but sheesh). Spiderman 3 has the worst use of those. When Black Suited Spiderman pulls the main open and we get quick cuts from bolts failing to Sandman's face. Man reminds me of scenes from Batman and Robin. Seriously I can't watch that movie again.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 9, 2018 19:29:06 GMT
I'll always be a fan of Sam's first 2, but he gypped us out of having Spiderman as a kid. We got 1/2 a movie with him in highschool. I kind of like to see Spiderman deal with highschool more than an 1 hours or 2 hours on film (TASM he graduated in second so we got 2hrs). I remember High School being angsty, cruel, fun, stressful, and emotion filled. College was a breeze comparatively and so was young adulthood. I'd like to see that pressure + the pressure of being a hero more. The pressure changes in College and Adulthood, but I'd like to see more of the sharp pressure High School can bring. (The pressure doesn't actually change much it's how we interpret it. As a kid everything is more focused and seems bigger I suppose Spiderman 1 only glossed over the pressure at high school whereas Spiderman 2 fully went into the difficulties of handling adult life with responsanilties of keeping a job, paying rent, reading physics at university and on top of that being a superhero. I guess it comes down to personal preference and life experience on which time period one finds most demanding. Even though I was a kid when I first watched SP2, i still felt more sympathetic with young adult Peters problem compared to his hardships in high school in Homecoming.
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