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Post by politicidal on Aug 11, 2018 1:05:28 GMT
Something about a pay dispute.
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Post by darkknightofgotham on Aug 11, 2018 3:04:42 GMT
Does this mean that Tarantino ST film will get made after all? Seems like a sure thing now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 17:31:15 GMT
Sequel decay. This is fallout from Beyond not doing great at the box office. The suits have decided that the next movie won't do great either, and so they need to slash the budget back to try and keep the movie profitable. It's a downward spiral.
IMO, this movie can't survive the loss of Pine. Recasting with a cheaper actor is going to cost the movie a lot of credibility.
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Post by ck100 on Aug 11, 2018 18:06:33 GMT
I know the studio will eventually cave in and give them whatever money they want. They're not going to let their franchise go to waste.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 19:23:54 GMT
I know the studio will eventually cave in and give them whatever money they want. They're not going to let their franchise go to waste. I almost wish they don't, because if they do that then the money will be cut elsewhere - the production will be rushed, the special effects will become less special, etc. |
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Post by ck100 on Aug 11, 2018 19:26:18 GMT
I know the studio will eventually cave in and give them whatever money they want. They're not going to let their franchise go to waste. I almost wish they don't, because if they do that then the money will be cut elsewhere - the production will be rushed, the special effects will become less special, etc. Well then we'll have another Star Trek V on our hands. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 19:35:26 GMT
bummer. Even though I thought Beyond was a major bore fest overall, I really like Pine as Kirk so I hope they get something worked out eventually .
The studio just needs to scale the budget back a bit (Beyond had a staggering $190 million budget ) and they lost money on that. Also, I wish they would just skip the whole time travel angle (don't care about Hemsworth story line any more tbh) . They need to really do something new & fresh to get the movie going audiences excited about ST again. Thats where Tarantino comes in. He would immediately be the adrenaline shot that this franchise needs !
and please for the love of GOD, no more using that "Sabotage" song. The way it was used in Beyond was so laughably bad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 19:36:31 GMT
I almost wish they don't, because if they do that then the money will be cut elsewhere - the production will be rushed, the special effects will become less special, etc. Well then we'll have another Star Trek V on our hands. Exactly. |
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 11, 2018 22:57:54 GMT
how can they continue without kirk?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 23:58:01 GMT
Sequel decay. This is fallout from Beyond not doing great at the box office. The suits have decided that the next movie won't do great either, and so they need to slash the budget back to try and keep the movie profitable. It's a downward spiral. IMO, this movie can't survive the loss of Pine. Recasting with a cheaper actor is going to cost the movie a lot of credibility. Might as well save a lot of money and end the Feanchuse as a trilogy. |
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Post by politicidal on Aug 12, 2018 0:35:41 GMT
how can they continue without kirk? Recast him with Picard. He's just trying to find his way back home. |
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Post by leesilm on Aug 12, 2018 4:20:32 GMT
I know time-travel has been beaten to death in the TREK franchise, but if they went back in time somehow or had some 'pocket dimension' from what Nemo did... you could have most of the movie taking place in like 1910 or some weird Renfest-meets-Westworld kind of thing where there are people from lots of times/places in one place, including Hemsworth's Kirk Sr. If done properly, it wouldn't be overly expensive and you could do as much as possible in camera/practical effects so that way the visual effects/digital CGI stuff won't need to have as big a budget. Although, something about this all seems fishy to me. I've never heard Hemsworth or Pine ever talked about as the type to quibble over money, if they thought the project was good and/or they wanted to work with the other talent involved - so it makes me wonder if they are (A)trying to hand them a terrible/incomplete script then asking for a guarantee of singing on, (B)they want to do something with those two characters that both actors think is terrible, or (C)it is really a matter of scheduling/etc. that is making it hard for Hemsworth & Pine to commit to the project that itself doesn't have any solid dates.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 12, 2018 6:13:34 GMT
How much more money to these self-entitled, narcissistic show ponies want? Paramount agreed to set pay before Star Trek 3 came out, it under perfomed and now they want to lower the budget. Would you take a paycut on a job you were promised? |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 12, 2018 7:56:35 GMT
Does this mean that Tarantino ST film will get made after all? Seems like a sure thing now. I've long suspected that movie was low-key cancelled following #metoo, directly proceeded by a woman being hired to direct. Although I do remember them talking about bringing back Thor all the way back to when Beyond came out, so hopefully I'm wrong. Anyway, I understand Thor backing out since he doesn't need to return to a bit part he did 10 years ago, but I'm disappointed in Pine. A superhero franchise and a best picture nominee and he's already forgotten his roots. Take the pay cut, ingrate. |
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Post by leesilm on Aug 13, 2018 1:31:16 GMT
I really wonder if the issue, particularly for Hemsworth, is the uncertainty of the project they are being asked to sign onto. Think about it- Hemsworth may still have some obligations to Marvel (At the very least- the press tour for AVENGERS 4, though we don't know, he could have more movies left to do for them?), he's got the new MIB movies which will have inevitable sequels if it does well, and he's got a couple other projects locked in.
Perhaps Paramount is wanting him to sign without giving him an exact time frame, instead of -->"We're aiming for beginning filming on May 10th of 2019, ending about three months later. 8 months till the trailer, another three till release, so we will need you for a press tour around April or May of 2020 for that.", they are doing something like, "Uh, it'll be a 3-4 months shoot, then like a year-ish later, we'll need you to do some press. Maybe a lot of press.", so he can't schedule/plan. I mean, we've seen how willing they are to play with others (can we say "Mustachegate"?) so he may be wise to be wary of them allowing him to go back and forth between theirs and another project, or them allowing him to come late/etc. in order to meet his obligations made to two different productions.
And as for Pine, he's got the press tour for WW84, he's got any further work on that OUTLAW KING series/movie from Netflix, if they do anything with a second season/limited series on TNT with Patty Jenkins, plus he's always got a couple smaller movies in the pipeline it seems. So maybe he's worried about the same thing, that he'll be a week into filming some little indie movie and Paramount will call with, "We started filming yesterday, get your *$$ up here, Captain Kirk" rather than letting him try to do both, or they won't let him have his OUTLAW KING hair/beard/bulk since they want short haired/clean shaven/slimmer Kirk.
Just my 2 cents, seeing as neither actor have been known for getting into pay disputes or getting whiny over script issues.
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