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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 14:02:05 GMT
I dont' think the value is going to hold up by the sound of things (on any diesel car)- I think they are pushing diesel on to people due to stock levels being to high.. but it will end up costing so much money to drive them not just inside london but also greater london in a few years time - and they will be worth nothing in 5 years.
It had issues (luckily so I have been able to take it back) and I have gone full circle and ordered a ford focus ecoboost 1 litre - yeh I know 1 litre!!
but it still has 125 bhp somehow!
Strange tech but it is supposed to be ok and has great reviews. I have never had a 1 litre in my life. howevet- (free tax and then 20 quid) good economy pretty quick (well 11 secs 60 mph isnt to bad - not great but ok. 6 gears. a lot inside as its the titanium x (the best spec) - and fatse r than the older 1.6 and not exactly far of my 2.00 litre audi i have taken back.
Anyway - Anyone got this tech and what do you think of it? I havent signed teh form just yet - I could go with a traditional engine.....
It is getting between 4 -4.3 /5 reviews everywhere. and it sounds like these engines will be the future - I always stuck away from low engine sizes due to them not being able to cruise well on the motorway - This is supposed to be totally different and can pull of from 70-90 no issue at all -top speed 125, and can cruise in 6th gear very well with the finger button cruise option.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 14:05:41 GMT
I had a 1 litre micra before my current car...
Did the Bristol to Brighton run regularly without any problems...
PS. I have a diesel car now (better for the environment they said)... yeah, turns out they ain't... regretting that decision now...
Pps. If had the money to buy brand new, I would go for an electric hybrid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 14:19:56 GMT
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 14:21:08 GMT
eah this isnt an electric hybrid - but its as close to one as you can get. (its one of the best low emmision cars and supposedlt drives like a 1.6-1.8 petrol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 14:25:57 GMT
A 1 litre? Sounds all right from what you say.
I was driving round in a 1.2l vauxhall corsa a few months ago (rental) for a couple of days, I didn't think I would care about the small engine and small car, but actually it was getting on my tits very quickly, the slightest bit of an uphill gradient on a motorway doing 60-70 and you have no acceleration left. Not much oomph getting away from lights either. I don't think you save much in petrol either.
Peugeot 208 1.4l (I think) has fairly decent performance for its size.. oh shit, that's diesel, you don't want diesel.
Not really much of a petrol head myself, I'd maybe see if you can hire a same model focus out from somewhere for a couple of days first, then you'll have a much better idea if you will like it than just a test drive. Probably only be about 20-30quid a day.
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 14:47:31 GMT
i have had many cars - my last 3 brand new - and this will be my 4th new one.
1.6 blueotion golf
1.8 bluemotion passat
2tdi audi a4
the fuss over diesels is getting to much to bear - i have to drive all over london and there may be no congestion anymore -just payments based on milage inside inner and outer london!!!and if we get fked on driving diesals as well . I can not be dealing with it.
i want a cheap insurance car, one that can still get of the mark to nip in and out, cheap to zero tax, etc, good on fuel and a decent m25 cruiser.
this fits it all .
and its quite big,
I have accepted it on a lease with buy option at the end - i had two offers - one from ford - 4k then 259 a month for 4 years or nationwide 165 processing, 450 upfront, 140 a month for 4 years
(all that is without vat as i can claim it back)
I am going with nationwide purely for cash flow - I doubt it will make much difference either way..
my major issue Was insurance -- one of my lads was involved in a 170,000 claim,
i wrote of the passat(12k claim) and almost write if the golf (6k claim) - luckily no one else was involved in either accident.....
and i used to have drink driving and 9 points (now i dont have t mention dink driving(11 years on) and have 0 points .
My electrcian (no.1 employee) also had drink driving (now its gone- he was the one in the 170k claim and also had 9 points as i did .
I was paying 6k for a crappy van - commericial insurance(van worth 3k) a new one we were qouted- 9k!! and another 2.8k for a transit van for an apprentice(not through the business as he has no connection to save money- so in his name) - but as he is only 22 its still a lot of money.
passat on buisness insurance plus another car - just a 323f mazda 5 ears old or so - was 4k a year multi car business(Anyone could drive them)
so 4 cars/vans total 12,800 on insurance for cars and vans only worth about 30k total!! plus DD interst!
this car is only 900 a year insurance!! thank fck - the audi was 2.1 k a year - the mazda is also on that insurance as well
i can now also get 2 decent vans(will be getting lease fords as well ) and the insurance has gone down to 3.5k for both rather than almost 10k..
so I am saving 8k a year. plus tax as well- plus hopefully fuel
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Post by runie on Mar 22, 2017 14:49:17 GMT
A 1 litre? Sounds all right from what you say. I was driving round in a 1.2l vauxhall corsa a few months ago (rental) for a couple of days, I didn't think I would care about the small engine and small car, but actually it was getting on my tits very quickly, the slightest bit of an uphill gradient on a motorway doing 60-70 and you have no acceleration left. Not much oomph getting away from lights either. I don't think you save much in petrol either. Peugeot 208 1.4l (I think) has fairly decent performance for its size.. oh shit, that's diesel, you don't want diesel. Not really much of a petrol head myself, I'd maybe see if you can hire a same model focus out from somewhere for a couple of days first, then you'll have a much better idea if you will like it than just a test drive. Probably only be about 20-30quid a day. I had a 14 corsa - i couldn't stand it. really couldnt But After reading a few 100 reviews on this car(professional and average people_ - most people can not tell the differnce from a decent §.6 zetec engine to this new one - those zetecs were very nice engines - even the 1.4's |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 18:40:55 GMT
Well let us know what the car is like.
I had a 1.8l zetec actually, yonks ago (in a escort, normally they are 1.6 but I had to have that extra bit of power), I loved that car actually. I've had the same car now for 10 years, it is now 13 years old, it's a merc but it probably has little sell on value so I'm probably just gonna drive into the ground.
Btw, drink driving bans, I know they used to stay on the paper part of the license for 10 or 11 years (which they've got rid of now), but you don't have to declare them to your insurance company after I think 4 or 5 years. Anyway, I'm sure you've learnt your lesson now!
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Post by runie on Mar 23, 2017 13:31:03 GMT
no its 11 years mate(well for my insurance company( - Ihad a problem, on a claim for not declaring someone.
I didnt think you had to after 5 years- But you did require it (they just took the extra premium - but they could have not processed the claim)
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Post by runie on Mar 23, 2017 13:35:16 GMT
this car has 125 break and 127 torque - so pulling power shouldn't be an issue overtaking on motorways at high gradients. considering my golf only had 115 break i have no idea how they have put the power in tis tiny engine . (British designed off course  - but oddly made in germany) but i will find out soon enough. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 23, 2017 13:50:10 GMT
Can I just read you something from Top Gear magazine? No, it’s alright, I've got it here, I've got it here:
“With a mere 90 brake-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in 5th gear the Ecoboost's slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.” Not my words, runie. The words of Top Gear magazine.
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Post by runie on Mar 23, 2017 13:56:35 GMT
thats not the 125 break version - thats the 90 bhp
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Post by runie on Mar 23, 2017 13:58:28 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 23, 2017 13:58:51 GMT
thats not the 125 break version - thats the 90 bhp I'm just fooling with you. It's an Alan Partridge quote! |
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Post by MrFurious on Mar 23, 2017 14:00:35 GMT
lol
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Post by runie on Mar 23, 2017 14:14:07 GMT
AH HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Post by chasallnut on Mar 23, 2017 16:16:00 GMT
I dont' think the value is going to hold up by the sound of things (on any diesel car)- I think they are pushing diesel on to people due to stock levels being to high.. but it will end up costing so much money to drive them not just inside london but also greater london in a few years time - and they will be worth nothing in 5 years. It had issues (luckily so I have been able to take it back) and I have gone full circle and ordered a ford focus ecoboost 1 litre - yeh I know 1 litre!! but it still has 125 bhp somehow! Strange tech but it is supposed to be ok and has great reviews. I have never had a 1 litre in my life. howevet- (free tax and then 20 quid) good economy pretty quick (well 11 secs 60 mph isnt to bad - not great but ok. 6 gears. a lot inside as its the titanium x (the best spec) - and fatse r than the older 1.6 and not exactly far of my 2.00 litre audi i have taken back. Anyway - Anyone got this tech and what do you think of it? I havent signed teh form just yet - I could go with a traditional engine..... It is getting between 4 -4.3 /5 reviews everywhere. and it sounds like these engines will be the future - I always stuck away from low engine sizes due to them not being able to cruise well on the motorway - This is supposed to be totally different and can pull of from 70-90 no issue at all -top speed 125, and can cruise in 6th gear very well with the finger button cruise option. The mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, is proposing to ban all diesel cars, buses and wagons in Liverpool. People are up in arms because they bought diesel cars because they were sold the "better for the environment" thing from the government. I sold my diesel Lexus recently and bought a petrol engine. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 23, 2017 16:20:37 GMT
I sold my diesel Lexus recently and bought a petrol engine. Just the engine? |
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Post by chasallnut on Mar 23, 2017 16:22:49 GMT
I sold my diesel Lexus recently and bought a petrol engine. Just the engine? It was cheaper that way! |
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