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Post by drystyx on Aug 15, 2018 1:41:26 GMT
Has the story of Socrates been totally left out of schools the past 40 years? Socrates said all he knew was that he knew nothing, well words to that effect. The exact words "I don't know" what they are.
There are posts on internet, and automatically people jump to conclusions, and if you even say you keep an open mind about something, you're lucky if you don't get a death threat. If you say "I don't know", you get hate more than people who actually oppose the people speaking.
People ask me questions about things I can't possibly know, and they get burned up and accuse me of crazy stuff if I say "I don't know".
"I don't know" has become socially illegal to say in Western culture.
Is that true? (10 points for everyone who says "I don't know".)
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Post by Isapop on Aug 15, 2018 1:48:11 GMT
Not that I've ever noticed.
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 15, 2018 2:00:25 GMT
Has the story of Socrates been totally left out of schools the past 40 years? Socrates said all he knew was that he knew nothing, well words to that effect. The exact words "I don't know" what they are. There are posts on internet, and automatically people jump to conclusions, and if you even say you keep an open mind about something, you're lucky if you don't get a death threat. If you say "I don't know", you get hate more than people who actually oppose the people speaking. People ask me questions about things I can't possibly know, and they get burned up and accuse me of crazy stuff if I say "I don't know". "I don't know" has become socially illegal to say in Western culture. Is that true? (10 points for everyone who says "I don't know".) What I've noticed is that some people "don't know" a whole heck of a lot more than other people don't know. I suppose there is something at least that even the most knowledgeable humans don't know. |
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Post by drystyx on Aug 15, 2018 2:33:10 GMT
Not that I've ever noticed.
You probably just have a particularly irritating way of saying it. That's insane, so I'm guessing you're making a joke. I guess I should explain and qualify what I mean here. I'm not saying "I don't know what the capital of Nebraska is". I know those things. I know about Lincoln. I know a lot of "facts" and "data". I'm speaking of judgment calls and events that require witnessing. There is no "irritating" way of not knowing something you can't know. I'm speaking mostly of events that took place that I didn't witness and wasn't any part of. I can't know every single thing that ever happens in a one hundred square mile area, but there are too many "new age" people who won't accept that. Then there are the videos on internet that are supposed to prove something. I don't know if they prove anything. I don't know if someone is set up, though I suspect they are. People are videotaping the events, so they didn't just appear from nowhere, and suddenly have a camera on the exact event that's supposed to take place. I know too many new fangled "new age" self righteous people who do try to stage events. They will threaten and attack someone, then turn on the camera to try to post on internet. It happens too often. There are people who do absolutely nothing else but play God this way. I've seen them. I know some of them very well. The fact is "I don't know" if a person being videotaped, and obviously set up, is innocent or guilty. I don't even know if he or she is doing what the posters are accusing them of. The videotape is almost never very telling of anything, not to mention I don't know what leads up to the event. Yet it seems too many people are pronouncing judgment and even making threats on these "smart phone videotapes" that appear all over. Anyone can accuse you of anything, and a new fangled new age demon possessed monster will surely not pass up the chance to play God. Then they get mad if I say "I don't know" if they're right or wrong. "I don't know" from what I see. I don't see what they say "you can see", because "you can't see" what they say you can see. It isn't there. People are flailing around on the ground, and you can't tell who's doing what. No, there's nothing "irritating" about saying "I don't know". There is something irritating about refusing to accept that someone doesn't know. |
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Post by maya55555 on Aug 15, 2018 2:36:14 GMT
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ErJen told me he did not know???
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 15, 2018 2:41:10 GMT
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ErJen told me he did not know??? Actually, I was thinking today of when I was a boy (back in the 1970s) it seemed like every third kid in school had a black T-shirt that said STYX. Is there anywhere I can get a tuxedo T-shirt that says DRYSTYX?  |
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Post by drystyx on Aug 15, 2018 3:06:34 GMT
I'll give an example.
In 1991, the Rodney King beating took place.
Now, if you're honest, you'll admit that the news coverage that showed the event taking place never lasted more than 3 seconds, but it looked more like 1/100 of a second. Literally, if you blinked you missed it. And that's the fact.
I watched the news at all times of day, and each time was the same. 1/100 of a second to 3 seconds. Again, one blink and you can't possibly see a thing.
And the people watching with me saw the exact same thing. This was before internet was available to anyone but the most brazen rich. Libraries hadn't opened internet to the public if they had computers.
Yet the newscasters would say "You can see..." and you couldn't see. It was impossible for a human brain to gather information that fast unless it was Ted Williams, and even he couldn't possibly see that fast.
And the others watching would bite into it. They couldn't see what happened, but every one of them would say "You can see", and if you didn't agree, they yelled at you, called you an ignorant retard, complained about you, called your boss to try to get you fired (all true). Not because you said you saw the opposite, but because you said "I don't know. I couldn't tell from that video of less than one second".
When people say "I saw it, I know it" from a 1/10 of a second video, I don't believe them, no.
The same is happening today, only people believe their poorly videotaped events are "proof" of something, and they aren't. Extremists on left and right side politics are insane on this matter, though the fact is obvious that the left extremists are more rabid. Indeed, their rabid behavior is what got Trump elected. They are undeniable "retards". And it's too bad, because only Bernie can save the world, and it may be too late now even for him. Jesus gave us Bernie, but the people rejected him.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 15, 2018 3:15:22 GMT
I'll give an example. In 1991, the Rodney King beating took place. Now, if you're honest, you'll admit that the news coverage that showed the event taking place never lasted more than 3 seconds, but it looked more like 1/100 of a second. Literally, if you blinked you missed it. And that's the fact. I watched the news at all times of day, and each time was the same. 1/100 of a second to 3 seconds. Again, one blink and you can't possibly see a thing. And the people watching with me saw the exact same thing. This was before internet was available to anyone but the most brazen rich. Libraries hadn't opened internet to the public if they had computers. Yet the newscasters would say "You can see..." and you couldn't see. It was impossible for a human brain to gather information that fast unless it was Ted Williams, and even he couldn't possibly see that fast. And the others watching would bite into it. They couldn't see what happened, but every one of them would say "You can see", and if you didn't agree, they yelled at you, called you an ignorant retard, complained about you, called your boss to try to get you fired (all true). Not because you said you saw the opposite, but because you said "I don't know. I couldn't tell from that video of less than one second". When people say "I saw it, I know it" from a 1/10 of a second video, I don't believe them, no. The same is happening today, only people believe their poorly videotaped events are "proof" of something, and they aren't. Extremists on left and right side politics are insane on this matter, though the fact is obvious that the left extremists are more rabid. Indeed, their rabid behavior is what got Trump elected. They are undeniable "retards". And it's too bad, because only Bernie can save the world, and it may be too late now even for him. Jesus gave us Bernie, but the people rejected him.
I know what you mean, and I wish I could say something more encouraging, but it's going to get even worse as time goes along. People are seeing what they believe. However, that you started this thread about it is proof that not everyone has become apathetic. |
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Aug 15, 2018 10:56:08 GMT
I'll give an example. In 1991, the Rodney King beating took place. Now, if you're honest, you'll admit that the news coverage that showed the event taking place never lasted more than 3 seconds, but it looked more like 1/100 of a second. Literally, if you blinked you missed it. And that's the fact. I watched the news at all times of day, and each time was the same. 1/100 of a second to 3 seconds. Again, one blink and you can't possibly see a thing. And the people watching with me saw the exact same thing. This was before internet was available to anyone but the most brazen rich. Libraries hadn't opened internet to the public if they had computers. Yet the newscasters would say "You can see..." and you couldn't see. It was impossible for a human brain to gather information that fast unless it was Ted Williams, and even he couldn't possibly see that fast. And the others watching would bite into it. They couldn't see what happened, but every one of them would say "You can see", and if you didn't agree, they yelled at you, called you an ignorant retard, complained about you, called your boss to try to get you fired (all true). Not because you said you saw the opposite, but because you said "I don't know. I couldn't tell from that video of less than one second". When people say "I saw it, I know it" from a 1/10 of a second video, I don't believe them, no. The same is happening today, only people believe their poorly videotaped events are "proof" of something, and they aren't. Extremists on left and right side politics are insane on this matter, though the fact is obvious that the left extremists are more rabid. Indeed, their rabid behavior is what got Trump elected. They are undeniable "retards". And it's too bad, because only Bernie can save the world, and it may be too late now even for him. Jesus gave us Bernie, but the people rejected him.
I know what you mean, and I wish I could say something more encouraging, but it's going to get even worse as time goes along. People are seeing what they believe. However, that you started this thread about it is proof that not everyone has become apathetic. Meh. Struggling to care. |
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 15, 2018 11:23:37 GMT
I'll give an example. In 1991, the Rodney King beating took place. Now, if you're honest, you'll admit that the news coverage that showed the event taking place never lasted more than 3 seconds, but it looked more like 1/100 of a second. Literally, if you blinked you missed it. And that's the fact. If you’re “honest”, then you’d admit that you are full of shit! Once again, NONSENSE! I’m not sure how old you are. Maybe you just don’t have a good recollection of this event. Maybe you’ve been influenced by those around you to see what they wanted you to see. But clearly, what you’re saying is not accurate. And when you claim that you didn’t see, and then also claim that the video is only 1 or 3 seconds, I don’t believe you. So that’s probably why you’ve had that issue with other people. The FACTS seem to contradict your memory and description of this particular event. It’s one thing to say “I don’t know” when it comes to hypotheticals, or future predictions. Will Trump be impeached? I don’t know. Will Trump be re-elected? I don’t know. But it is cognitive dissonance to claim that you don’t know if he said “grab them by the pussy”, when he’s on tape saying it! When things are recorded, that is evidence of facts, regardless of how you remember it. And when you say “I don’t know” to something that is on tape, then it makes you seem foolish and willfully ignorant. It’s just like people who deny science and say “I don’t know” to climate change, or “evolution”, or other scientifically established things. |
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Post by drystyx on Aug 15, 2018 12:38:06 GMT
I'll give an example. In 1991, the Rodney King beating took place. Now, if you're honest, you'll admit that the news coverage that showed the event taking place never lasted more than 3 seconds, but it looked more like 1/100 of a second. Literally, if you blinked you missed it. And that's the fact. If you’re “honest”, then you’d admit that you are full of shit! Once again, NONSENSE! I’m not sure how old you are. Maybe you just don’t have a good recollection of this event. Maybe you’ve been influenced by those around you to see what they wanted you to see. But clearly, what you’re saying is not accurate. And when you claim that you didn’t see, and then also claim that the video is only 1 or 3 seconds, I don’t believe you. So that’s probably why you’ve had that issue with other people. The FACTS seem to contradict your memory and description of this particular event. It’s one thing to say “I don’t know” when it comes to hypotheticals, or future predictions. Will Trump be impeached? I don’t know. Will Trump be re-elected? I don’t know. But it is cognitive dissonance to claim that you don’t know if he said “grab them by the pussy”, when he’s on tape saying it! When things are recorded, that is evidence of facts, regardless of how you remember it. And when you say “I don’t know” to something that is on tape, then it makes you seem foolish and willfully ignorant. It’s just like people who deny science and say “I don’t know” to climate change, or “evolution”, or other scientifically established things. NO! You are full of s..t, not me. This footage NEVER appeared in that length on the news. I know, because I watched it religiously every day during the nineties. At most, I would miss one day out of a week in emergencies. The footage that appeared NEVER lasted more than a fraction of a second to three seconds. You have just PROVEN my point, you devil worshiping monster. I lived the time, and I know you are a LIAR!. This is exactly the point I made about monsters like you playing God. I don't know how you hacks do it, but you do it, changing facts because you want to rewrite History. How can a sane person believe one word you monsters say? Or one trumped up video you and your sicko cohorts concoct? |
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Post by islandmur on Aug 15, 2018 13:18:49 GMT
If you’re “honest”, then you’d admit that you are full of shit! Once again, NONSENSE! I’m not sure how old you are. Maybe you just don’t have a good recollection of this event. Maybe you’ve been influenced by those around you to see what they wanted you to see. But clearly, what you’re saying is not accurate. And when you claim that you didn’t see, and then also claim that the video is only 1 or 3 seconds, I don’t believe you. So that’s probably why you’ve had that issue with other people. The FACTS seem to contradict your memory and description of this particular event. It’s one thing to say “I don’t know” when it comes to hypotheticals, or future predictions. Will Trump be impeached? I don’t know. Will Trump be re-elected? I don’t know. But it is cognitive dissonance to claim that you don’t know if he said “grab them by the pussy”, when he’s on tape saying it! When things are recorded, that is evidence of facts, regardless of how you remember it. And when you say “I don’t know” to something that is on tape, then it makes you seem foolish and willfully ignorant. It’s just like people who deny science and say “I don’t know” to climate change, or “evolution”, or other scientifically established things. NO! You are full of s..t, not me. This footage NEVER appeared in that length on the news. I know, because I watched it religiously every day during the nineties. At most, I would miss one day out of a week in emergencies. The footage that appeared NEVER lasted more than a fraction of a second to three seconds. You have just PROVEN my point, you devil worshiping monster. I lived the time, and I know you are a LIAR!. This is exactly the point I made about monsters like you playing God. I don't know how you hacks do it, but you do it, changing facts because you want to rewrite History. How can a sane person believe one word you monsters say? Or one trumped up video you and your sicko cohorts concoct? I'm 52 and I lived through that incident, and I watched the news also because it was horrific news at the time, while I can't recall if these particular videos were in the news I recall the ones that I saw were more than 3 seconds. When I see these days videos of incidents, i often wonder why are people recording instead of stopping / helping whatever is going on, and then I realize people have been doubted for so long about certain things like the insiduous racism in america that finally having found a way to prove themselves they are always ready with their cell phones. And while it's difficult to judge context from a lot of these videos, the point remains that the actions on a lot of these videos are inexcusable no matter the context. I see plenty of people saying for exemple about police brutality video "well you don't know what the person did before the police did what they did" and they are right, however it also doesn't matter because there is nothing that would justify what the police did. Police are not supposed to react like ordinary citizens, they have a job to do, part of that job involves taking risk, being in danger, not shoot first and ask questions later. I get so angry when I hear a policeman justify shooting an unarmed person or child on the basis of "i feared for my life", i'm sorry that's part of the job description, now fearing for bystanders that may get hurt that's comprehensible in the context of protect the public. As for the beatings or arbitry arrests that's even worse. |
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Post by drystyx on Aug 15, 2018 14:05:39 GMT
NO! You are full of s..t, not me. This footage NEVER appeared in that length on the news. I know, because I watched it religiously every day during the nineties. At most, I would miss one day out of a week in emergencies. The footage that appeared NEVER lasted more than a fraction of a second to three seconds. You have just PROVEN my point, you devil worshiping monster. I lived the time, and I know you are a LIAR!. This is exactly the point I made about monsters like you playing God. I don't know how you hacks do it, but you do it, changing facts because you want to rewrite History. How can a sane person believe one word you monsters say? Or one trumped up video you and your sicko cohorts concoct? I'm 52 and I lived through that incident, and I watched the news also because it was horrific news at the time, while I can't recall if these particular videos were in the news I recall the ones that I saw were more than 3 seconds. When I see these days videos of incidents, i often wonder why are people recording instead of stopping / helping whatever is going on, and then I realize people have been doubted for so long about certain things like the insiduous racism in america that finally having found a way to prove themselves they are always ready with their cell phones. And while it's difficult to judge context from a lot of these videos, the point remains that the actions on a lot of these videos are inexcusable no matter the context. I see plenty of people saying for exemple about police brutality video "well you don't know what the person did before the police did what they did" and they are right, however it also doesn't matter because there is nothing that would justify what the police did. Police are not supposed to react like ordinary citizens, they have a job to do, part of that job involves taking risk, being in danger, not shoot first and ask questions later. I get so angry when I hear a policeman justify shooting an unarmed person or child on the basis of "i feared for my life", i'm sorry that's part of the job description, now fearing for bystanders that may get hurt that's comprehensible in the context of protect the public. As for the beatings or arbitry arrests that's even worse. Your last paragraph is for another thread. In what you say earlier, I won't call you a liar. Maybe where you lived, you had privileged coverage, but in Louisville, Ky, there was never more than an eye blink of footage shown. I clearly stated that those who claimed "you could see" were people who watched the same eye blink footage I saw. I don't believe any of you for a second when you say there was longer footage, but I won't harp on that. I know that liars will never back down. Maybe you just got swayed by the control freaks, or maybe you did get privileged coverage. I'll never believe any of the people who yell at me to say I see what I didn't see, because they are all so self righteous about it, and you're the first person out of dozens I've heard, who didn't use that as a lying excuse to tell me I saw what I didn't see. I'd be a moron if I believed maniacs who tried to force me to say I saw what I didn't see. And I'd be a retard if I believed those people weren't trying to use black magic on me. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 14:13:34 GMT
I don`t know.
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 15, 2018 14:49:13 GMT
NO! You are full of s..t, not me. This footage NEVER appeared in that length on the news. I know, because I watched it religiously every day during the nineties. At most, I would miss one day out of a week in emergencies. The footage that appeared NEVER lasted more than a fraction of a second to three seconds. I just showed clips from “the news” that aired. It refuted your claim. You are wrong! And if you insist that this footage that was aired (as proved by the clip) wasn’t shown, then you are an idiot! Please seek some professional help soon. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 15, 2018 15:01:55 GMT
But it is cognitive dissonance to claim that you don’t know if he said “grab them by the pussy”, when he’s on tape saying it! When things are recorded, that is evidence of facts, regardless of how you remember it. And when you say “I don’t know” to something that is on tape, then it makes you seem foolish and willfully ignorant. It’s just like people who deny science and say “I don’t know” to climate change, or “evolution”, or other scientifically established things. Most of your post I agree with, but there's no problem with saying that one doesn't know or isn't familiar with something that's documented, that's being talked about wherever, etc. Also, that's different than denying something. No one can be familiar with everything. Different people are less or more interested in various things. Being an asshole towards someone just because they're not as interested as you in something is ridiculous. |
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Post by drystyx on Aug 15, 2018 15:03:40 GMT
NO! You are full of s..t, not me. This footage NEVER appeared in that length on the news. I know, because I watched it religiously every day during the nineties. At most, I would miss one day out of a week in emergencies. The footage that appeared NEVER lasted more than a fraction of a second to three seconds. I just showed clips from “the news” that aired. It refuted your claim. You are wrong! And if you insist that this footage that was aired (as proved by the clip) wasn’t shown, then you are an idiot! Please seek some professional help soon. I was a working man who watched the nightly news every day at the time, so I KNOW that you are a liar by your very self righteousness and your footage that NEVER was on the air nationally. NEVER. If you deny that, you're a lying warlock you are. All we got were eye blink clips on our little TVs that we could tell nothing from. The King incident deserved better, because this is one of the few actual cases of unprovoked police brutality. King was not a gang member. We know because he was always alone, and didn't even have a fiancé until after a civil suit. No one can be a member of a "mob" unless he has lots of support and resources. King had none of these. The footage you showed did not air on TV. FACT. When a devil worshiping monster like you comes up with doctored up crap and says it's "proof", you better wait till all the actual witnesses of the TV news footage die off, because we know you as the monster you are. You are a sicko control freak out to play God, and the pity is that you purposely try to make people think King is a part of your evil, when research shows he isn't. Maniacs like you kept him from getting justice, and started the riots just so you devil worshipers could cackle and guffaw at how many people you caused death, destruction, and horror to. The Devil doesn't give brownie point, you retard. He won't reward you. I guess I should thank you for proving my point, but you're too full of sadistic demon possessed hatred to allow one iota of it to sanction. I've run into maniacs like you, and I thought "Well, maybe they're right. Maybe I'm disabled in the mind", so I applied for Disability, believing you liars, and the psychiatrist who tested me said I was "perfectly fit and not mentally disabled", so the experts call you a devil worshiping liar as well, right? Right. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 15, 2018 16:05:33 GMT
I bluff my way through if....
I don't know!
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Post by general313 on Aug 15, 2018 16:34:02 GMT
Maybe where you lived, you had privileged coverage, but in Louisville, Ky, there was never more than an eye blink of footage shown. If that's the case that might be part of the explanation of how Donald Trump has managed to sucker so much support. |
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 17, 2018 11:00:03 GMT
I bluff my way through if.... I don't know! 😎 That’s called “fake it, till you make it”. If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. - WC Fields. |
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