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Post by ant-mac on Oct 16, 2018 23:45:22 GMT
All the time. I consider it standard operating procedure. In fact, when things start running smoothly, I start feeling very paranoid indeed!  |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 17, 2018 0:06:10 GMT
Less a case of feeling great and then feeling lousy. Most of the time I am closer to lousy and get up in the morning with the hope that it will be a good day and get disappointed when it goes worse than I had thought.
There have been a few rare times where I was in a terrible state and something good happened though.
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Post by Nora on Oct 17, 2018 0:26:48 GMT
Less a case of feeling great and then feeling lousy. Most of the time I am closer to lousy and get up in the morning with the hope that it will be a good day and get disappointed when it goes worse than I had thought. There have been a few rare times where I was in a terrible state and something good happened though. thats great that you do get up hopeful though. thats where i somewhat struggle. except on weekends i usually wake up dreading to look at my phone, so the morning dread is quite unpleasant. should do something about it. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 17, 2018 0:38:01 GMT
thats great that you do get up hopeful though. thats where i somewhat struggle. except on weekends i usually wake up dreading to look at my phone, so the morning dread is quite unpleasant. should do something about it. I went through periods of complete despair where I believed I was metaphysically cursed (most likely a side effect of OCD). So I count my blessings that I am not like that now. I used to be a much more optimistic person though. Naively hopeful perhaps.
I have only had rare occasion where I did something which I initiated that turned out to be positive, and then I got an unexpected positive development right after it--so it was a very nice change of pace-and you feel good and hopeful for a few days. But that was more recent, so I consider that a positive--better than if I was remembering something that happened years ago.
I am sure if one could write a book on how to turn depression into satisfaction it would be a best seller.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 22:37:21 GMT
How do you get back up afterwards? i thought of you today. and of my previous advice about applying harsher discipline and doing physical things. i wonder if you have tried it recently and if it did something? full disclosure: I remember you and this topic today as I was sitting in my car in front of my gym, crying for a few minutes. I was having a very bad day today from the start, on all fronts, work-wise as well as personal, and it kinda escalated right as I was about to go to the gym. so there I am sitting in the car, crying, feeling sorry for myself etc. I had to really force myself to stop it, stop the process as in not allow my brain to dwell in that emotion for too long. I literally told myself "ok, here you go, you can cry for one more minute and then off you go, get up and go to the gym". And as much as I really didnt want to go to the gym today and rather wanted to drive home and perhaps continue the self pity fest, I did apply my own advice to myself. now its 2 hours later and I can tell you already on my way from the gym I was in a completely different mood. Still not having the best day of course, but doing much better than before. The refocusing of your brain energy and physical exhausting works wonders. would love to hear about your experience with this. I'm sorry I didn't check back in this thread and see this post until now, Nora. I am sorry you were brought to tears by a bad day. Been there too. Years ago when I started a new position at my company, my boss didn't train me and I got bits and pieces from colleagues. A deadline was due and I had NO IDEA how to do something, and I was so upset I went to the bathroom and cried. I don't usually cry, I haven't for years. I just bottle up all the emotion. This is the importance of positive reinforcement from friends, family and others in your life that you can talk to about these things, let off steam, etc. I don't really have much of that in my life. Sorry, not much good for advice on this since I suffer from the problem so much. |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 22, 2018 22:41:06 GMT
I just cut to the chase and stay down. Eliminates a lot of unrealistic expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 22:42:58 GMT
I don't know if you have noticed BUT, this particular OP rarely returns to a thread he has started after throwing the question out. It seems to be all about "starting thread" counts .
PERSONALLY. I enjoy your pep-talk essays... thanks ! have not noticed. noted now. thanks. btw is that a new avatar? Completely changes how I imagine you now! :0 Has BATouttaheck ever noticed OP has severe confidence issues that can cause him to "hide" and not check to see if people have attacked his POV? |
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Post by Nora on Oct 22, 2018 22:43:25 GMT
I just cut to the chase and stay down. Eliminates a lot of unrealistic expectations. come on, thats just so cynical. you cant mean that, can you?  |
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Post by Nora on Oct 22, 2018 22:44:39 GMT
i thought of you today. and of my previous advice about applying harsher discipline and doing physical things. i wonder if you have tried it recently and if it did something? full disclosure: I remember you and this topic today as I was sitting in my car in front of my gym, crying for a few minutes. I was having a very bad day today from the start, on all fronts, work-wise as well as personal, and it kinda escalated right as I was about to go to the gym. so there I am sitting in the car, crying, feeling sorry for myself etc. I had to really force myself to stop it, stop the process as in not allow my brain to dwell in that emotion for too long. I literally told myself "ok, here you go, you can cry for one more minute and then off you go, get up and go to the gym". And as much as I really didnt want to go to the gym today and rather wanted to drive home and perhaps continue the self pity fest, I did apply my own advice to myself. now its 2 hours later and I can tell you already on my way from the gym I was in a completely different mood. Still not having the best day of course, but doing much better than before. The refocusing of your brain energy and physical exhausting works wonders. would love to hear about your experience with this. I'm sorry I didn't check back in this thread and see this post until now, Nora. I am sorry you were brought to tears by a bad day. Been there too. Years ago when I started a new position at my company, my boss didn't train me and I got bits and pieces from colleagues. A deadline was due and I had NO IDEA how to do something, and I was so upset I went to the bathroom and cried. I don't usually cry, I haven't for years. I just bottle up all the emotion. This is the importance of positive reinforcement from friends, family and others in your life that you can talk to about these things, let off steam, etc. I don't really have much of that in my life. Sorry, not much good for advice on this since I suffer from the problem so much. well the main point of my msg was that my mood improved very much upon going to the gym. i wonder is that something you can bring youself to do? |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 22, 2018 22:46:24 GMT
I just cut to the chase and stay down. Eliminates a lot of unrealistic expectations. come on, thats just so cynical. you cant mean that, can you? Sure. It keeps life on a nice, level mean. It isn't cynical, imo, just a realistic appraisal of existence--sort of like the idea of picturing the absolute worst-case scenario in any given situation; and then you can be pleasantly surprised when it didn't turn out that way. And prepared for it when it does. |
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Post by Nora on Oct 22, 2018 22:49:13 GMT
come on, thats just so cynical. you cant mean that, can you? Sure. It keeps life on a nice, level mean. It isn't cynical, imo, just a realistic appraisal of existence--sort of like the idea of picturing the absolute worst-case scenario in any given situation; and then you can be pleasantly surprised when it didn't turn out that way. And prepared for it when it does. funny i feel like this is what all cynics/pessimists say, with the realistic appraisal. I am the opposite way, as you may have noticed. imagining worst case scenario would actually make me think i am subconsciously creating it/causing it to happen. i do believe in the universe working like that. so i actively spend time imagining the best case scenario. fully knowing it may not come true, but why not mentally engage it? |
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Post by Ass_E9 on Oct 22, 2018 22:51:01 GMT
Chumbawamba
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Post by amyghost on Oct 22, 2018 22:52:00 GMT
Sure. It keeps life on a nice, level mean. It isn't cynical, imo, just a realistic appraisal of existence--sort of like the idea of picturing the absolute worst-case scenario in any given situation; and then you can be pleasantly surprised when it didn't turn out that way. And prepared for it when it does. funny i feel like this is what all cynics/pessimists say, with the realistic appraisal. I am the opposite way, as you may have noticed. imagining worst case scenario would actually make me think i am subconsciously creating it/causing it to happen. i do believe in the universe working like that. so i actively spend time imagining the best case scenario. fully knowing it may not come true, but why not mentally engage it? Me, I'm a fatalist. What's meant to happen will happen, and I don't believe what I think regarding this will have any influence over it. Probably a result of my Celtic and Jewish mixed heritage, two groups known for their rather black humor where existence is concerned. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 22:56:35 GMT
I'm sorry I didn't check back in this thread and see this post until now, Nora. I am sorry you were brought to tears by a bad day. Been there too. Years ago when I started a new position at my company, my boss didn't train me and I got bits and pieces from colleagues. A deadline was due and I had NO IDEA how to do something, and I was so upset I went to the bathroom and cried. I don't usually cry, I haven't for years. I just bottle up all the emotion. This is the importance of positive reinforcement from friends, family and others in your life that you can talk to about these things, let off steam, etc. I don't really have much of that in my life. Sorry, not much good for advice on this since I suffer from the problem so much. well the main point of my msg was that my mood improved very much upon going to the gym. i wonder is that something you can bring youself to do? Not really. I belonged to one once and only went half a dozen times. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 22:58:10 GMT
Sure. It keeps life on a nice, level mean. It isn't cynical, imo, just a realistic appraisal of existence--sort of like the idea of picturing the absolute worst-case scenario in any given situation; and then you can be pleasantly surprised when it didn't turn out that way. And prepared for it when it does. funny i feel like this is what all cynics/pessimists say, with the realistic appraisal. I am the opposite way, as you may have noticed. imagining worst case scenario would actually make me think i am subconsciously creating it/causing it to happen. i do believe in the universe working like that. so i actively spend time imagining the best case scenario. fully knowing it may not come true, but why not mentally engage it? I think there's something to karma... |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 22, 2018 22:58:35 GMT
Has BATouttaheck ever noticed OP has severe confidence issues that can cause him to "hide" and not check to see if people have attacked his POV? No but Bat has noticed that OP posts reams of thread after thread and rarely actually engages in those threads. The OP frequently posts no POV but just throws out question after question and runs. How is anyone supposed to notice "severe confidence issues" when there are no notes … just "questions". The only negativity I have seen you receive was to your series of "How can you people actually like this classic movie ?" posts that appeared on the CFB.... and the one where you seemed to have a question and when we tried to find an answer FOR YOU on INTK were told "I know the answer and I'm not going to tell you what it is ! Doesn't actually smack of "lacking confidence" ~ not to me anyway ! I saw your note that you have "notifications" turned off.. seems rather counter productive if you want to interact with people.
k then.
EDIT .. the claim of "severe confidence issues" is not borne out when the OPs history of replies are read … OP is pretty free with the "you write lame threads" posts to other chronic thread starters and OP writes repetitive negative opinion posts seemingly geared to engender arguments. Way it looks from here anyway … SCI is a crock ! (imo) |
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Post by Nora on Oct 22, 2018 23:22:33 GMT
funny i feel like this is what all cynics/pessimists say, with the realistic appraisal. I am the opposite way, as you may have noticed. imagining worst case scenario would actually make me think i am subconsciously creating it/causing it to happen. i do believe in the universe working like that. so i actively spend time imagining the best case scenario. fully knowing it may not come true, but why not mentally engage it? Me, I'm a fatalist. What's meant to happen will happen, and I don't believe what I think regarding this will have any influence over it. Probably a result of my Celtic and Jewish mixed heritage, two groups known for their rather black humor where existence is concerned. well there have been some interesting experiments kinda showing the opposite. as in that what you think does influence greatly what you do and how others perceive what you do. take confidence for example. would you say that has no weight in the outcome of ones actions? (btw for me nothing like fate exists, not in a way of an external force somehow driving the result of your life. its all internal thats the driving factor in my view) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 0:48:02 GMT
How do you get back up afterwards? Oh I wrestle with this too. As does my oldest son. Here's what I try to focus on, and I encourage my son to do so as well. I know I felt good and was up in the first place, or I wouldn't have had anywhere to fall to. It is my choice what I want to try and focus on when the hard times come. I choose to try and focus on the good I just had been having and plow through the low. Yes sometimes that is tough, and I falter, but eventually I will get back to solid ground. I tell myself that I need to accept it can't all be the highs, and I pray to God that I am doing the things I need to do to act from the same positive values during those times when shit seems to be pounding me from all directions as during the easy times when acting from them is natural. I find I sometimes don't get knocked down so far when I do that, and other times it is as tough as ever. Like I said, I don't have that all figured out myself, but that's the way I have found that sometimes helps me ride out the tough times. |
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