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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 22, 2018 16:28:25 GMT
And Thor's whole hot tub vision quest about the Infinity Stones. Totally unnecessary, had nothing to do with the plot of AoU. The studio literally forced Whedon to either put that scene in the film or cut the stuff with Hawkeye's family altogether (which some fans would've preferred). isnt it important to understanding what the stone in the cepter was? Nah, it's important to understanding that doxxing innocent people's deceased relatives, getting banned twice, and coming back with a third sock account is borderline desperate.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 22, 2018 16:30:28 GMT
And Thor's whole hot tub vision quest about the Infinity Stones. Totally unnecessary, had nothing to do with the plot of AoU. The studio literally forced Whedon to either put that scene in the film or cut the stuff with Hawkeye's family altogether (which some fans would've preferred). isnt it important to understanding what the stone in the cepter was? No. It wasn't needed in this film. The scepter wasn't a big part of the story in AoU. They explain the stones in several other MCU films. Hell, they even explained it all again in IW.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 22, 2018 16:30:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 16:49:56 GMT
Rey KahukaGreat analysis, man! I especially like your character breakdown of Tony Stark. I never thought of him that way, but you're exactly right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 16:51:04 GMT
It's troubling how many fans simply don't care about the color pallete. It annoys the hell out of me and I keep wishing they'd fix it!!!!!!!@&@$!!?
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Post by hobowar on Aug 22, 2018 17:00:59 GMT
The last line in Iron Man 3 : I AM IRON MAN. If you thought for one second that Tony retired, you're a fucking idiot. I may have gotten a bit carried away, there.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 22, 2018 17:01:26 GMT
It's troubling how many fans simply don't care about the color pallete. It annoys the hell out of me and I keep wishing they'd fix it!!!!!!!@&@$!!? FFFFFIIIIIXXXXX IIIIITTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 22, 2018 17:01:54 GMT
I may have gotten a bit carried away, there. it happens to the best of us, my friend
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Post by hobowar on Aug 22, 2018 17:07:03 GMT
Thor's hot tub dream machine was mainly there to set-up the birth of Vision and to parallel Tony Stark. Thor was using magic to find answers while Stark was using technology.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 22, 2018 17:10:09 GMT
Thor's hot tub dream machine was mainly there to set-up the birth of Vision and to parallel Tony Stark. Thor was using magic to find answers while Stark was using technology. it's all good, even back when they were shoehorning BW into IM2, it still didn't really bother me ( i understood what they were doing, and why )
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Post by hobowar on Aug 22, 2018 17:33:59 GMT
Thor's hot tub dream machine was mainly there to set-up the birth of Vision and to parallel Tony Stark. Thor was using magic to find answers while Stark was using technology. it's all good, even back when they were shoehorning BW into IM2, it still didn't really bother me ( i understood what they were doing, and why ) They kinda shat the bed with Black Widow in IM2 imo, although I thought she was at her sexiest in that movie.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 22, 2018 17:35:17 GMT
it's all good, even back when they were shoehorning BW into IM2, it still didn't really bother me ( i understood what they were doing, and why ) They kinda shat the bed with Black Widow in IM2 imo, although I thought she was at her sexiest in that movie. I'm probably not the best judge, I actually liked IM2.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 22, 2018 17:38:52 GMT
They kinda shat the bed with Black Widow in IM2 imo, although I thought she was at her sexiest in that movie. I'm probably not the best judge, I actually liked IM2. I loved it in the cinema, and still think it's pretty ok, but I can see why some didn't enjoy it.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 22, 2018 17:41:41 GMT
16: Could care less about this. 15: I thought the humor was odd and, for the most part, not overly kid friendly. Especially considering these are supposed to be family films. As for the overabundance of jokes, I think Age of Ultron is by far the worst offender. 14: I think they’ve done a good job so far with the exception of Hawkeye and Black Widow. This is why there should have been a SHIELD movie where their characters could have been explored. 13: Yes and No on this one. On one hand it gave them a ton of money and they have pretty much every property back with them. However, the never ending jokes thing is getting to me as is the non-stop appeasing of SJW’s. I know this is a Disney thing too because the SJW appeasing crap started in the comics not long after Disney bought Marvel. 12: age of Ultron bothers me because this is where the joke every five seconds thing started. The set up for the infinity stones could have been left out, it really bogged the movie down. Ultron wasn’t nearly the villain he could have been. He has access to every computer system on the planet, but doesn’t really use that to his advantage. 11: Most are lame, but there’s really no time to develop villains in between the origin, the character, the side characters, and whatever Avengers movie they’re advertising for. The only real interesting villain was Alexander Pierce from Winter Solider. 10: Each movie is a superhero genre with the exception of Captain America: The Winter soldier which has a secondary genre. 9: Yes he did. What he did not need was a rehash of everything we’ve already seen with a dash of appeasing SJW’s. 8: I think its high time origin stories went the way of the dinosaurs for this reason. Dr. Strange didn’t need to be an origin story. That movie should have been strictly about introducing magic to the MCU. Instead that takes a backseat so we can run through yet another origin story. Introduce the character and then jump into the action. It’s better story wise. 7: Setting the first film on earth was stupid. This goes along with the needless origin story thing. His character, the others, and Loki could have been introduced in Asgard and they could have and should have had adventures there. He has to come to earth eventually, but that could have happened in the Avengers. Jane Foster was a pointless character ultimately and I never cared for her. Also, I thought Thor: The Dark World sucked as is easily the worst MCU movie. 6: I thought Ant-Man was just okay. As it is, it’s hard to say if it needed Edgar Wright or not. For all those who praise him there is a chance his movie might have sucked hard. 5: I thought this started in Iron Man 2 when they reset his character back to the guy he was in Iron Man One. It’s almost like he didn’t learn anything. As for Iron Man 3, don’t worry. I think they’re trying to retcon/ignore that movie out of existence. 4: Yes it is. There are still some heroes I want to see make it to the big screen or get their own TV show. Marvel might burn out eventually, but that is a very long time from now. 3: They used to as far as which characters to adapt, but now they do just play it safe. Though I’m not sure what kind of risks they can really take in that direction. The in-universe risks they take get retconned (Thor’s hammer getting destroyed, Tony getting his arc reactor removed) so that’s clearly a bad idea. 2: I think every movie should seem to exist in its own universe with some precautions being taken so nothing has to get retconned. This way it’s more exciting when they all meet up. As it is a lot of these movies seem like Avenger’s commercials always reminding us that there’s a shared universe as if we don’t already know. 1: It’s been good for the most part with some misses here and there. Infinity War has the worst CGI of any film so far which was really disappointing. JARVIS was stopping him from accessing nuclear codes.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 22, 2018 17:46:06 GMT
are you joking? the ending literally introduced a new set of Avengers just because they didn't follow up on that, doesn't mean that it wasn't there. And Thor's whole hot tub vision quest about the Infinity Stones. Totally unnecessary, had nothing to do with the plot of AoU. The studio literally forced Whedon to either put that scene in the film or cut the stuff with Hawkeye's family altogether (which some fans would've preferred). The Infinity Stones were there, but the main reason for that scene were to parallel Tony Stark going to nexus hub and so that Thor would have a hand in Vision's creation.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 22, 2018 17:53:21 GMT
It's troubling how many fans simply don't care about the color pallete. It annoys the hell out of me and I keep wishing they'd fix it!!!!!!!@&@$!!? It's just another way to subtly remind the audience it's all the same universe. I agree it isn't necessary, but I haven't found it as distracting as you have. Email Feige. Tell him to give Hawkeye the helmet and we'll call it even.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 22, 2018 17:59:26 GMT
And Thor's whole hot tub vision quest about the Infinity Stones. Totally unnecessary, had nothing to do with the plot of AoU. The studio literally forced Whedon to either put that scene in the film or cut the stuff with Hawkeye's family altogether (which some fans would've preferred). The Infinity Stones were there, but the main reason for that scene were to parallel Tony Stark going to nexus hub and so that Thor would have a hand in Vision's creation. You're making excuses. Again, the studio forced Whedon to put that scene in the film. Thor didn't need to know about the Stones at that time; he didn't even need to be a part of Vision's creation. They didn't need Thor to power up Ultron. The scene wasn't needed, period.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 22, 2018 18:18:49 GMT
The Infinity Stones were there, but the main reason for that scene were to parallel Tony Stark going to nexus hub and so that Thor would have a hand in Vision's creation. You're making excuses. Again, the studio forced Whedon to put that scene in the film. Thor didn't need to know about the Stones at that time; he didn't even need to be a part of Vision's creation. They didn't need Thor to power up Ultron. The scene wasn't needed, period. Thor seemed to trust Vision more everyone else did and that was probably down to what he saw in his hot tub dream. You're right about the Infinity Stones kinda being set-up, but it's barely thirty seconds of the movie.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 22, 2018 18:29:13 GMT
You're making excuses. Again, the studio forced Whedon to put that scene in the film. Thor didn't need to know about the Stones at that time; he didn't even need to be a part of Vision's creation. They didn't need Thor to power up Ultron. The scene wasn't needed, period. Thor seemed to trust Vision more everyone else did and that was probably down to what he saw in his hot tub dream. You're right about the Infinity Stones kinda being set-up, but it's barely thirty seconds of the movie. I still enjoyed AoU a ton. I'm just saying that stuff was unnecessary. Everyone would've trusted Vision the second he picked up Mjolnir, that had been set up by the party scene.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 22, 2018 18:57:51 GMT
I agree with half of these. I hated those moments in GOTG. I especially agree about Iron Man whose arc from Iron Man 3 to Age of Ultron and Civil War was really out of wack. He turned into this emotionally susceptible idiot who could be easily triggered. The color palette is getting better but it’s still not there yet. MCU, shadows are your friend, join the dark side already!
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