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Post by Skaathar on Aug 22, 2018 19:45:47 GMT
16. “THE COLOR PALETTE IS GROUNDED” - valid criticism. A lot of the MCU movies have washed-out colors. Surprisingly, Thor TDW probably has the richest color palette. Hope the future MCU movies can improve on this.
15. “THE HUMOR IN GUARDIANS 2 WAS ORGANIC” - A lot (not all) of the humor in GOTG2 was crass and tasteless. I will not defend this point.
14. “MARVEL KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE ALL OF THEIR CHARACTERS” - Marvel knows how to handle most of their characters, better than DC and Fox anyway, but they're not perfect. Black Widow and Hawkeye for example are completely mishandled.
13. “DISNEY WAS GOOD FOR THEM” - I personally do not like Disney. I personally think the MCU would be better off without them. However, the MCU might not have been able to get to where they are if it wasn't for Disney. And at the end of the day, the fact is that the MCU skyrocketed to the top of the film industry while they were under Disney. However, I'd be very happy if the MCU separated from Disney at this point.
12. “AGE OF ULTRON’S SEQUEL SETUP WAS IMPORTANT TO THE STORY” - Necessary? No. Important, kinda. It just so happened it wasn't handled properly.
11. “THE VILLAINS AREN’T THAT BAD” - this is probably one of the dumbest criticisms against the MCU. The MCU villains on average are quite decent when compared to villains of other cbms. In fact, they're pretty decent compared to the average action movie villain. And as it stands right now, the MCU probably has more good villains than bad ones.
10. “EACH MOVIE IS A DIFFERENT GENRE” - are there really people who claim this? Most MCU fans will claim that each MCU film has a different tone... which is true. But they're obviously not a different genre since they're all superhero movies. That's their genre. I don't really recall people claiming they're all different genres.
9. “SPIDER-MAN NEEDED THE REBOOT” - yes they did, at least if the MCU wanted to portray Spiderman as a young kid whom IM would take under his wing. They definitely needed to reboot him if that was the direction they were taking.
8. “THE ORIGIN STORIES ARE ALL UNIQUE” - yes and no. The origin stories all follow a basic pattern, which is pretty common to every hero story, not just the MCU. Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batman, Hercules... these movies all kinda follow the same pattern. However, that doesn't mean that they're not unique in their own ways.
7. “BRINGING THOR TO EARTH SERVED HIS CHARACTER” - yes, coming to Earth definitely served Thor's character. I wish it was handled better, but that was something that always would have needed to be done for MCU Thor.
6. “ANT-MAN DIDN’T NEED EDGAR WRIGHT” - don't really care about this one enough to comment.
5. “IRON MAN HAS A CONSISTENT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT” - yes, IM does indeed have consistent character development, at least in a realistic sense. Very few people can do a complete 180 degree turn. Some people relapse, some people go up and down before completely overcoming challenges, etc. That's what you see with Tony Stark. His character does indeed continue to develop but that doesn't mean that it's completely linear. There are dips and rises here and there... which makes it very realistic. More realistic at least than Thor learning humility over a few days after being alive for over a thousand years.
4. “IT’S GREAT THAT THE FRANCHISE IS CONTINUING” - well yeah, it's definitely great. Their movies are improving, they're making more and more money, more characters are getting introduced, their movies are diversifying... so what's the problem? If there are people who're getting tired of them then just stop watching. If enough people don't like them then it will be reflected in the box office... which doesn't seem to be the case yet.
3. “THE MOVIES ARE TAKING PLENTY OF RISKS” - yes they are. Considering how much they just spent on Infinity War, it just proves they're still taking risks. Handing over a movie that big to the Russos who are relatively untested with blockbusters like that? Deciding to end IW by killing majority of characters? All risky moves. Obviously, not all their movies are risks, but they do take risks.
2. “THE CONNECTED UNIVERSE IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING” - I won't say it's always a good thing, obviously there are drawbacks. But by and large it's a good thing, especially since only the MCU has managed to make an interconnected movie universe this big and this successful.
1. “THE SPECIAL EFFECTS ARE ALWAYS FANTASTIC” - no, no they're not always fantastic. But compared to other cbms? Yeah, they're pretty good. Can still be improved but they're above average definitely.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 22, 2018 19:57:17 GMT
What Marvel established with the MCU was great. When it kicked off with Iron Man, they had a unique take on the superhero genre. Complete with a reverence to the source material and a willingness to diverge a bit, audiences were captured. To say that the fan base has grown since that day is a massive understatement. Marvel has a grip over Hollywood now and the pressure is on to innovate with their movies or the entire genre could die out. Because of this, Marvel has made a lot of decisions within the MCU that haven’t worked so well. Whether it was behind the scenes or something in each movie, there’s no denying they’ve slipped up several times.
Most people can admit when the MCU makes a mistake, but there are some fans who have trouble doing even that. Needless to say, there are diehard MCU fans in the world who refuse to believe that Marvel can do anything but good. Every time Marvel acquires another character for the universe, the MCU fans get ecstatic, because Marvel always knows how to handle their characters the best. Unfortunately, they will still make the case that some of the worst of the MCU’s decisions weren’t all that bad.
16. “THE COLOR PALETTE IS GROUNDED”
This is one of those things that once you see, you will never unsee. Have you ever noticed that, in terms of color palette and overall shades, of the Marvel movies, for the most part, look the same. Most of them will have these washed-out reds and yellows in favor of a blue and gray color palette.
Even a movie as visually pleasing as Guardians of the Galaxy has this washed-out look to it.
It’s definitely an issue going forward because comic books are visual spectacles. The movies have to replicate that. However, diehard MCU fans will argue that the color palette is that way on purpose because it’s supposed to make the universe feel grounded. Even grounded comic book movies have attractive color schemes.
15. “THE HUMOR IN GUARDIANS 2 WAS ORGANIC”
Guardians of the Galaxy was one of Marvel’s most surprising successes. It was a huge risk, taking a property no one had ever heard of and trying to turn it into a popular movie. However, it was one that paid off, having that sort of irreverent humor that made it a memorable experience. Unfortunately, director James Gun decided that the humor was going to be dialed up for the sequel.
Lovers of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 will say that the humor was “organic,” but that isn’t the case. When Drax is talking about his “famously huge turds,” and Ego turning into David Hasselhoff, the entire joke takes the viewer out of the movie. That’s not to say the film itself was bad — it’s just the jokes didn’t land as well.
14. “MARVEL KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE ALL OF THEIR CHARACTERS”
Here’s a big argument that we hear a lot. When it was time for the MCU to start adapting their characters, there was no denying that they treated them with a lot of respect and love to make them work on the big screen. Then when it came to poorly received Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, and X-Men movies, the immediate response was “give them back to Marvel!”
The problem here is that Marvel doesn’t always know what to do with their characters. 90% of their villains are poorly executed, and some of their heroes aren’t nearly as good as their source material. Scarlet Witch has a lot of growing to do, Spider-Man is somewhat of an Iron Man Junior, and we still don’t care a lot about Hawkeye.
13. “DISNEY WAS GOOD FOR THEM”
Shortly after the success of Iron Man and the announcement of their cinematic universe, Disney decided they wanted a piece of that action and bought out Marvel Studios. While this increased their potential in the financial department, there’s only one direction that the MCU could go from there, and that direction is a mega franchise.
Now that Disney owns Marvel, it’s clear that there’s a consistency going on. Some of the movies feel like products that only give Mickey Mouse more money in his pocket. Some fans have argued that the Disney buyout was good for them because it’s allowed for even greater success. The problem is that, at the end of the day, Marvel’s movies are going to be whatever Disney wants them to be.
12. “AGE OF ULTRON’S SEQUEL SETUP WAS IMPORTANT TO THE STORY”
Avengers: Age of Ultron was fairly disappointing when you consider how much of a success the first Avengers movie was. One of the reasons for this is that the movie seems to put itself on pause in order to set-up events that would be fulfilled in Black Panther, Captain America: Civil War, and Thor: Ragnarok.
Some diehard fans of Age of Ultron have stated that they don’t mind the sequel setup, even going as far to say that it was important to the story.
Even if it were necessary to the film, the way it was integrated was poor, as the rest of the movie was stopped in order to address it. Setup is better when it’s always at a backseat rather than being the backseat driver.
11. “THE VILLAINS AREN’T THAT BAD”
If we had to choose between having well-constructed heroes and well-constructed villains in a superhero universe, we would take the heroes every time. That said, there’s almost no excuse for how abysmal some of these Marvel villains are. Very seldom are they even given a motivation or a reason to be doing anything that they’re doing. They’re just there to give the main character something to fight in the end.
Some fans of the MCU would say that the villains aren’t that bad, though. In the case of Vulture, Ego, and Hela, we would have to agree. However, just about every other bad guy is pointless and we never understand them enough to care about them. Marvel definitely needs to fix this going forward or they’re going to lose their audience pretty quickly.
10. “EACH MOVIE IS A DIFFERENT GENRE”
There’s an ongoing discussion that each Marvel movie plays around with a different genre to stay varied. Captain America: The Winter Soldier was a political thriller. Spider-Man: Homecoming was a high school movie. Ant-Man was a heist film. Many MCU fans will refute any complaints of the “Marvel formula” by referring to these movies as different genres within the superhero domain.
Where this argument breaks down is the fact that, while each movie definitely tries to fit into another genre, it only goes halfway. If you compare Ant-Man as a heist movie to Logan as a western, there’s no contest. Marvel needs to be willing to go all the way and take more risks if they want to claim that their movies are genres other than action.
9. “SPIDER-MAN NEEDED THE REBOOT”
Spider-Man Homecoming Movie Artwork It’s important to note that we like Tom Holland’s portrayal of Spider-Man as well as his role in the MCU. However, when you look at the wall crawler’s cinematic history, it starts to get a little confusing. Imagine how many people refused to see Spider-Man: Homecoming simply because it was the third attempt at a Spider-Man franchise in the last ten years.
Some people will argue that Spider-Man needed the reboot after the disaster that was The Amazing Spider-Man 2. We disagree.
Marvel could’ve soft-rebooted Andrew Garfield’s character, making him feel a lot more like a classic version of Spider-Man that’s still familiar or brought back Tobey Maguire for one last hurrah. The point here is that Spider-Man didn’t need a reboot. Marvel just wanted creative freedom.
8. “THE ORIGIN STORIES ARE ALL UNIQUE”
Complaints of a “Marvel Formula” didn’t really start to surface until the release of Doctor Strange. After that movie came out, people were starting to catch on that the origin stories of Stephen Strange, Scott Lang, and a few other MCU characters were strikingly similar to one another. While that’s not true across the board, it becomes even more apparent when you realize that most of the heroes are pompous jerks who are seeking redemption.
That said, there will always be those people who will argue the other way around. Because Stephen Strange is a doctor and Scott Lang is a convicted criminal, then they don’t have similar origin stories. To be fair, though, Marvel has used some variety in character introductions, like with Spider-Man, Black Panther, and the Guardians of the Galaxy.
7. “BRINGING THOR TO EARTH SERVED HIS CHARACTER”
Thor was the first out-of-left-field character that Marvel brought to the big screen. How could they get audiences to care about the prince of a fictional Norse realm? However, they managed to pull it off, but that hasn’t stopped the overall reception of the Thor franchise, save for Thor: Ragnarok.
In the first two Thor movies, the writers were so focused on keeping him on Earth that we never felt like he was a cosmic hero. Fans have argued that these moves were to serve his character, but Marvel could’ve easily had him take adventures on other planets so we could see a more eclectic side to the MCU while still giving him plenty of development. Character development is rarely defined by a particular planet.
6. “ANT-MAN DIDN’T NEED EDGAR WRIGHT”
Ant-Man ended up being directed by Peyton Reed and has been fairly well-received especially considering the caliber of the character in relation to the other juggernaut heroes of the MCU and it’s all thanks to a great performance by Paul Rudd and an excellent design for the suit. However, the movie is only a mere shadow of what it could’ve been, as Marvel originally had Edgar Wright signed on for the project.
Unfortunately, Wright eventually left the project. Some fans will state that the movie didn’t need Edgar Wright and that it was fine the way it was, but the reality is that Marvel limited the movie they could’ve had by letting Wright leave. Look at movies like Baby Driver and Hot Fuzz and imagine how a superhero movie would’ve been under that sort of style.
5. “IRON MAN HAS A CONSISTENT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT”
Iron Man is the flagship character of the MCU. Having started the franchise off, he has since carried the Avengers movies and been a big part of the franchise. He has made a total of six film appearances at the time of this writing.
While he has developed in a very relatable and real way, there is a serious blemish on his arc.
In Iron Man 3, there’s a very confusing scene where Tony blows up all of the Iron Man suits and gets the shrapnel removed from his heart, seemingly giving up on being Iron Man. However, going into Age of Ultron, he’s already back in action out of nowhere. Still, some fans are ready to defend this move, saying that he never quit being Iron Man. The blowing up of the suits was solely for Pepper to show his commitment.
4. “IT’S GREAT THAT THE FRANCHISE IS CONTINUING”
While the idea of the MCU was great at the start, audiences are starting to grow fatigued of the concept. With the franchise going on indefinitely, pushing on to a Phase 4, there seems to be no end to the series. Furthermore, there are still end credit scenes that have no direct payoff or movie announcements.
Some fans have stated that this is great for the series because it’s just like the comics, but we disagree. By the franchise going on and on for an indefinite amount of time means that Marvel will burn themselves out eventually. If we had to give our best advice, it would be for Marvel to take a break after the defeat of Thanos. That way, their next movie a few years later would stir more excitement.
3. “THE MOVIES ARE TAKING PLENTY OF RISKS”
We’ve heard it before. There are criticisms that Marvel’s movies aren’t taking many risks. Due to being part of the Disney conglomerate, their movies are stylistically similar, with senses of humor that are consistent across the board. On the other side of the coin, some fans feel like they’ve been taking risks. Sure, they’ve been inventive with the Guardians of the Galaxy and having Taika Waititi direct Thor: Ragnarok, but there hasn’t been a lot apart from that.
To say that Marvel plays it safe would almost be too easy of a jab. Going into an MCU movie, you already know what to expect. There are few surprises that Marvel is churning out these days. That’s why the superhero fatigue is so prominent as well as people seem to strongly anticipate the release of Black Panther.
2. “THE CONNECTED UNIVERSE IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING”
Marvel took a serious risk when it came to the conception of their movies. Instead of just having tried and true sequels, they wanted to connect their movies in a way similar to the comic books. Thus was the birth of the cinematic universe. While it’s easy to see how this approach can benefit their films, there are some serious drawbacks that are becoming more apparent as time goes on.
First and foremost, there is a limit as to what Marvel can do with their films because of the larger plan on hand. It leads to movies being made that don’t add anything to the overall story. On top of that, the TV shows take a serious hit as well trying to be connected to the universe. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. suffered a serious problem during its first season due to being in the same universe as The Avengers.
1. “THE SPECIAL EFFECTS ARE ALWAYS FANTASTIC”
15 Times Marvel Studios Got The Avengers Wrong We should preface this by saying that Marvel’s special effects are mostly great. Sometimes, they are fairly noticeable, but they never go to Steppenwolf levels of bad. For example, some shots of Iron Man in Captain America: Civil War are obviously put together with CGI. There was also the horribly fake opening sequence to Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Still, the Marvel versus DC war must continue, which means that fans of the MCU will constantly convince themselves that Marvel’s special effects are perfect.
Again, Marvel has done some impressive work with their special effects, but there are several examples of how they’ve messed up when using CGI. After all, there is a reason that no one talks about The Incredible Hulk when talking about the Marvel Cinematic Universe anymore.Source: www.cbr.com/bad-mcu-decisions-that-diehard-fans-defend/--- Should be an interesting discussion. Do you guys agree with any of these? Wait... I'm confused... are you actually criticizing... are you actually showing the temerity to criticize... the MCU?!?!?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 21:56:08 GMT
I agree with half of these. I hated those moments in GOTG. I especially agree about Iron Man whose arc from Iron Man 3 to Age of Ultron and Civil War was really out of wack. He turned into this emotionally susceptible idiot who could be easily triggered. The color palette is getting better but it’s still not there yet. MCU, shadows are your friend, join the dark side already! The color palette can be improved for home viewing by jacking the living fuck out of your contrast settings. I have a custom USER setting on my tv that I refer to as the Marvel setting.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 22, 2018 21:59:49 GMT
I agree with half of these. I hated those moments in GOTG. I especially agree about Iron Man whose arc from Iron Man 3 to Age of Ultron and Civil War was really out of wack. He turned into this emotionally susceptible idiot who could be easily triggered. The color palette is getting better but it’s still not there yet. MCU, shadows are your friend, join the dark side already! The color palette can be improved for home viewing by jacking the living fuck out of your contrast settings. I have a custom USER setting on my tv that I refer to as the Marvel setting. GIVE ACKBAR THE CUSTOM USER SETTING THAT HE REFERS TO AS THE MARVEL SETTING ON HIS TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!9
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 22:03:39 GMT
The color palette can be improved for home viewing by jacking the living fuck out of your contrast settings. I have a custom USER setting on my tv that I refer to as the Marvel setting. GIVE ACKBAR THE CUSTOM USER SETTING THAT HE REFERS TO AS THE MARVEL SETTING ON HIS TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!9 ![](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DefiantUnlawfulBandicoot-small.gif)
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Aug 22, 2018 22:06:43 GMT
GIVE ACKBAR THE CUSTOM USER SETTING THAT HE REFERS TO AS THE MARVEL SETTING ON HIS TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!9 ![](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DefiantUnlawfulBandicoot-small.gif) THAT'S THE ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...um, wait a second... what kind of shitty TV is that?
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 22, 2018 22:21:02 GMT
16: Could care less about this. 15: I thought the humor was odd and, for the most part, not overly kid friendly. Especially considering these are supposed to be family films. As for the overabundance of jokes, I think Age of Ultron is by far the worst offender. 14: I think they’ve done a good job so far with the exception of Hawkeye and Black Widow. This is why there should have been a SHIELD movie where their characters could have been explored. 13: Yes and No on this one. On one hand it gave them a ton of money and they have pretty much every property back with them. However, the never ending jokes thing is getting to me as is the non-stop appeasing of SJW’s. I know this is a Disney thing too because the SJW appeasing crap started in the comics not long after Disney bought Marvel. 12: age of Ultron bothers me because this is where the joke every five seconds thing started. The set up for the infinity stones could have been left out, it really bogged the movie down. Ultron wasn’t nearly the villain he could have been. He has access to every computer system on the planet, but doesn’t really use that to his advantage. 11: Most are lame, but there’s really no time to develop villains in between the origin, the character, the side characters, and whatever Avengers movie they’re advertising for. The only real interesting villain was Alexander Pierce from Winter Solider. 10: Each movie is a superhero genre with the exception of Captain America: The Winter soldier which has a secondary genre. 9: Yes he did. What he did not need was a rehash of everything we’ve already seen with a dash of appeasing SJW’s. 8: I think its high time origin stories went the way of the dinosaurs for this reason. Dr. Strange didn’t need to be an origin story. That movie should have been strictly about introducing magic to the MCU. Instead that takes a backseat so we can run through yet another origin story. Introduce the character and then jump into the action. It’s better story wise. 7: Setting the first film on earth was stupid. This goes along with the needless origin story thing. His character, the others, and Loki could have been introduced in Asgard and they could have and should have had adventures there. He has to come to earth eventually, but that could have happened in the Avengers. Jane Foster was a pointless character ultimately and I never cared for her. Also, I thought Thor: The Dark World sucked as is easily the worst MCU movie. 6: I thought Ant-Man was just okay. As it is, it’s hard to say if it needed Edgar Wright or not. For all those who praise him there is a chance his movie might have sucked hard. 5: I thought this started in Iron Man 2 when they reset his character back to the guy he was in Iron Man One. It’s almost like he didn’t learn anything. As for Iron Man 3, don’t worry. I think they’re trying to retcon/ignore that movie out of existence. 4: Yes it is. There are still some heroes I want to see make it to the big screen or get their own TV show. Marvel might burn out eventually, but that is a very long time from now. 3: They used to as far as which characters to adapt, but now they do just play it safe. Though I’m not sure what kind of risks they can really take in that direction. The in-universe risks they take get retconned (Thor’s hammer getting destroyed, Tony getting his arc reactor removed) so that’s clearly a bad idea. 2: I think every movie should seem to exist in its own universe with some precautions being taken so nothing has to get retconned. This way it’s more exciting when they all meet up. As it is a lot of these movies seem like Avenger’s commercials always reminding us that there’s a shared universe as if we don’t already know. 1: It’s been good for the most part with some misses here and there. Infinity War has the worst CGI of any film so far which was really disappointing. JARVIS was stopping him from accessing nuclear codes. Yeah, but then he didn't try anything else. He could have bankrupted Tony, bankrupted everyone on the planet, caused worldwide blackouts, and essentially really thrown the world into a lot of chaos.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 1:44:16 GMT
Ok. I'll take these one by one...
16) The color pallete is a huge problem. They need to use more contrast/deeper blacks and more color!!!!!1
15) I like GotG 2, but some of the humor is too crude and mean spirited. Well... It could have been worse, I suppose. Look at Gunn's tweets!!2
14) Mostly, they do. But Hawkeye deserved more. And many of the classic villains got screwed. Overall, not bad by any means. They've done great things with the bulk of their heroes
13) Disney hasn't been too bad for them. Studio interference isn't a huge problem so far (though it is a problem) and it mostly comes from Marvel Studios rather than Disney. Still, I'm not a fan of Disney buying up studios. Marvel has faired ok. Dizney definately screwed up Star Wars though!!!!3
12) That Thor hot tub stuff was awkward and further crowded an already overstuffed movie. Bad call by Marvel.
11) They wasted a lot of good villains. Most are decent, few are truly bad... But few are truly great.
10) The different genre stuff is promotional B.S. They are all superhero action adventure flicks. They don't need to be different genres, but Marvel claiming they are is just annoying.
9) GIVE THE MCU THE TOBEY MACGUIRRRRE SPIDREMAN!!!!!!!&
8) The origin stories are often typical hero's journey type stories. But personally I don't mind. It's a tried and tested formula. A few more risks would be nice though.
7) Thor had to come to Earth... They were clearly struggling to make his mythos work though and Earth was an easy way to ground the character. So in that regard it was a bit of a cop out.
6) Ant Man has grown me on me quite a bit. I would've liked to have seen Wright's version though.
5) Stark's characterization clearly changes to suit the plot in AoU and Civil War. I can forgive it, but it is somewhat glaring.
4) Disagree with this one. I'm not ready for it to end, but I do fear it will grow stale in phase four when some new big threat is concocted and teased as Thanos 2.0. We will see...
3) There are very few risks. Doesn't make the movies bad... But I don't consider any of these movies to be particularly bold in this category.
2) The shared universe is has its set backs. I don't think they do enough world building for it really work as well it should. When Rocket meets Bucky you sort of have to turn your brain off to enjoy it. It feels so unearned. Civil War however, is exceptional in this regard.
1) I've never been a fan of excessive CGI. The FX are mostly good, sometimes great... but some of the green screen- especially in IW and GotG- just looks cartoonish.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 23, 2018 3:42:06 GMT
--- Should be an interesting discussion. Do you guys agree with any of these? I'm no die hard MCU fan... i.e. Winter Soldier felt familiar cinematic territory... I'll reply in kind cuz I'm f'n bored & I like games/polls/lists of this nature... 16. I've never noticed really. They've got to be using similar visual tech ppl yes? Thor Ragnarok looks much different from Iron Man which looks different from Ant-Man. Whatevs. End of the day the films are all cousins &/or siblings of one another, get over it. 15. GotG2 was a step sideways for me. I love GotG, I've on blu. I don't need to see the sequel ever again. 14. They know how to handle them with each other. That's what's fun for me as a fan. Rogers-Stark arc I love. I think they'll be easier 'to handle' once this Avengers era is finished & new characters spring up together, with unknown macro arc akin the Thanos/Infinity Stones. 13. Disney hasn't hurt nor helped at the moment. I do think Ant-Man 3 if it's about Cassie & her friends, perhaps even more G rated stuff, that'd be weird. The violence has been fine for me up til' now. 12. Setup? Not sure wtf. I know some ppl complain about Iron Man 3 not aligning - to which I respond don't give a fcuk cuz IM3 was lame & Age of Ultron with the Avengers forced to deal with themselves is f'n awesome. I love AOU. Reminds me of Harry Potter Prisoner of Azkaban - the one without Voldemort freeing up the leads to be more introspective. Avengers 2 is the one without Cosmic villainy. Loves it. 11. Villains are that poor. Red Skull is awesome, which helps First Avenger stay awesome, & he's even rewarded with Infinity War scene. Loki is brilliant. The rest are all pretty much whatevs. 10. MCU does present different genres. Period. Anyone arguing against that is insane. 9. Spider-Man needed a youth movement. Having Parker as youngest we've seen is new & welcome, even if the teen flick SMHC didn't land as a keeper for me. 8. Sure whatevs. I don't mind origin stories. What I do mind is countless fcukin' origin stories for icons like Superman or Batman that we're lining up to watch because we already know who they are, get on with it. James Bond has been around forever & barely any origin story because we get it. 7. Cosmic Thor could've been fine in the Guardians' realm. That wasn't to be since he was lined up for The Avengers, potentially when initially on paper the end game. 6. I really like Ant-Man & I have no opinion about that. I feel like there must be Wright touches in the film, & some changes. I like Rudd, if they asked his angle for funnies, so be it. 5. Iron Man? No. Tony Stark? Yes. The Iron Man movies didn't do much for me, it's when The Avengers gathered & he could match wits with peers, that's when Stark became aces. His banters with Banner (no pun), his exceptional arc with Rogers, & having to put the entire MCU on his back for the first few years, was all strong. 4. I hope Avengers 4 does not have a credits tag scene other than something funny or super omg to tease us for years down the road. MCU will continue & be fresher without Iron Man & Captain America. They've done enough heavy lifting. 3. The risks were Incredible Hulk & Thor. They worked out quite well in the end. 2. Connected universe is fine, Ant-Man did it well practically just name dropping & a quick 1-1 with Falcon. 1. MCU special effects are entertaining, nothing earth shattering. With IW, I've 9 titles on blu. After Avengers 4, it might be awhile before I own another (I only first bought non-Avengers titles in 2018). I think ppl need to chill & respect the fact the MCU works quite well even if you're only invested in about 30-40% of it or whatever. 20(?) odd films in, doesn't mean everyone's gonna love & defend all 20... or else?!?
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