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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 24, 2018 15:38:27 GMT
That's true. But I think you and I (and now everyone who reads this post) know that or even care. The point it is, he's a big guy and Cena's a big guy, and I don't think Michael Phelps rings Namor.
Michael Phelps would be a great choice if he put on another 10 to 20 pounds of muscle. The only question is can he act? He cant even talk! Forget about acting! Do you really see him being the commanding presence, the haughty nature, the "Imperius Rex!" that is Namor? Really? It's gonna take more than just swimming well.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Aug 24, 2018 16:30:28 GMT
Plenty of great and terrible ideas here. Big range, as well. Fan casting is one thing. Now I wonder who they’d actually go with- They’re typically awesome with casting. And that’s the main thing with Sub-Mariner. Not how to present his story, But the actor behind the character needs to be perfect.
Anyone recall if they’re allowed to use him, A la Hulk, just not in a solo flick, Or if he’s out of bounds at the moment? I heard conflicting things last year or so, When it was last a hot topic.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 24, 2018 16:43:46 GMT
Daniel Wu looks far too soft. Brian Tee or Rick Yune are way better. Yeah. No on Wu. screenrant.com/actors-who-could-play-namor-the-sub-mariner/Has possibilities Too old at this point. We would expect a good decade out of him Doesn't do it for me No. I like him a lot, but no. Not quite there. Age is a factor. The thing with Namor is his aging is a factor. For a dude who has been kicking around since WWII, he looks pretty amazing. Namor needs a bit of that god-like look Maybe. Outside shot The screen rant pic looks acceptable, but the Wiki pic has too long a face. Trying to see it with the widow's peak, but still no. Way too old His eyebrows freak me out on Supergirl, but this could work. They would do makeup Maybe. Possibilities. Maybe. Not really feeling it, but they could maybe make it work Hmmmm. Not feeling it. Pretty old to be jumping in on a role to last a decade or 2. I really like him as an actor but he's a bit old. I could live with this. 50? We're in Keanu range now. We need 10 yrs, maybe more. This is brushing RDJ problem. If he is being seen as too old at age 53 after a decade in the role, why start with 50 yr old actors? . Putting an age limit on casting choices to someone in their early 30's and below is going to make this challenging. Might as well go for broke and cast Zac Effron.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 24, 2018 16:45:18 GMT
Plenty of great and terrible ideas here. Big range, as well. Fan casting is one thing. Now I wonder who they’d actually go with- They’re typically awesome with casting. And that’s the main thing with Sub-Mariner. Not how to present his story, But the actor behind the character needs to be perfect. Anyone recall if they’re allowed to use him, A la Hulk, just not in a solo flick, Or if he’s out of bounds at the moment? I heard conflicting things last year or so, When it was last a hot topic. I'm pretty sure he was off-limits before because he was considered a Fantastic 4 villain and thus fell under Fox (could be wrong though). But now that Disney bought Fox we'll see what happens.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Aug 24, 2018 16:48:30 GMT
Plenty of great and terrible ideas here. Big range, as well. Fan casting is one thing. Now I wonder who they’d actually go with- They’re typically awesome with casting. And that’s the main thing with Sub-Mariner. Not how to present his story, But the actor behind the character needs to be perfect. Anyone recall if they’re allowed to use him, A la Hulk, just not in a solo flick, Or if he’s out of bounds at the moment? I heard conflicting things last year or so, When it was last a hot topic. I'm pretty sure he was off-limits before because he was considered a Fantastic 4 villain and thus fell under Fox (could be wrong though). But now that Disney bought Fox we'll see what happens. Wait, really? Fox? I thought Universal had the distribution (and possibly character? 🤔) rights.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 24, 2018 16:54:51 GMT
I'm pretty sure he was off-limits before because he was considered a Fantastic 4 villain and thus fell under Fox (could be wrong though). But now that Disney bought Fox we'll see what happens. Wait, really? Fox? I thought Universal had the distribution (and possibly character? 🤔) rights. That was pretty old news. I did a brief google search now and realized I was mistaken. My apologies.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Aug 24, 2018 16:58:44 GMT
Wait, really? Fox? I thought Universal had the distribution (and possibly character? 🤔) rights. That was pretty old news. I did a brief google search now and realized I was mistaken. My apologies. No worries. That’d be super convenient now!
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Post by merh on Aug 25, 2018 7:32:33 GMT
Yeah. No on Wu. screenrant.com/actors-who-could-play-namor-the-sub-mariner/Has possibilities Too old at this point. We would expect a good decade out of him Doesn't do it for me No. I like him a lot, but no. Not quite there. Age is a factor. The thing with Namor is his aging is a factor. For a dude who has been kicking around since WWII, he looks pretty amazing. Namor needs a bit of that god-like look Maybe. Outside shot The screen rant pic looks acceptable, but the Wiki pic has too long a face. Trying to see it with the widow's peak, but still no. Way too old His eyebrows freak me out on Supergirl, but this could work. They would do makeup Maybe. Possibilities. Maybe. Not really feeling it, but they could maybe make it work Hmmmm. Not feeling it. Pretty old to be jumping in on a role to last a decade or 2. I really like him as an actor but he's a bit old. I could live with this. 50? We're in Keanu range now. We need 10 yrs, maybe more. This is brushing RDJ problem. If he is being seen as too old at age 53 after a decade in the role, why start with 50 yr old actors? . Putting an age limit on casting choices to someone in their early 30's and below is going to make this challenging. Might as well go for broke and cast Zac Effron. Chris Hemsworth? Just turned 35. How many years has he played Thor? Hiddleston is 2 yrs older.
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Post by merh on Aug 25, 2018 7:41:19 GMT
Plenty of great and terrible ideas here. Big range, as well. Fan casting is one thing. Now I wonder who they’d actually go with- They’re typically awesome with casting. And that’s the main thing with Sub-Mariner. Not how to present his story, But the actor behind the character needs to be perfect. Anyone recall if they’re allowed to use him, A la Hulk, just not in a solo flick, Or if he’s out of bounds at the moment? I heard conflicting things last year or so, When it was last a hot topic. Marvel didn't realize they had Namor back. He was licensed out to Universal, I believe, but they never made a movie so the license lapse. Feige didnt know. Someone told him Marvel had Namor back & Feige had to check on it. So basically they left him out of their plans because they thought he was licensed out. He has been around since April 1939 so 2 yrs longer than Cap.
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Post by leesilm on Aug 25, 2018 19:18:54 GMT
Some ideas, based on needing someone who can be a scene-stealer/good actor AND have more of a swimmer build (since Johnny Weismiller is dead, he can't take the role, unfortunately) Godfrey Gao- he does 50-11 martial arts, swims, climbs, rides, etc. So he's got the look for it. www.imdb.com/name/nm3295837/mediaindex?ref_=nm_phs_md_smTom Wisdom - he is also a pretty active guy in real life, and he was in 300, so... www.imdb.com/name/nm0936300/mediaindex?ref_=nm_phs_md_smGarrett Hedlund would do well, but he turned down CAPTAIN AMERICA, so he'd probably say 'no' www.imdb.com/name/nm1330560/mediaindex?ref_=nm_phs_md_smLee Pace would be a good choice, if he didn't already have a Marvel role (Ronan, the Accusor for Captain Marvel/Guardians of the Galaxy), he definitely has the build and he used to do swimming when he was younger. (He mentioned it in an interview for THE FALL, I think it was) www.imdb.com/name/nm1195855/mediaviewer/rm232560128I've also heard Luke Evans mentioned before, even seen fanart done with him in the role.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 25, 2018 20:23:44 GMT
An unknown... Namor must carry zero actor baggage. Imperious Rex!!! I could go with a mid card. Someone not famous, but "Hey, that's the guy from..."
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 25, 2018 20:30:52 GMT
Hmm, thinking about it, I don't know if going Asian would be a good idea on Namor. You know since Aquaman was turned into Polynesian. That would be going way too similar.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 25, 2018 21:35:33 GMT
An unknown... Namor must carry zero actor baggage. Imperious Rex!!! I could go with a mid card. Someone not famous, but "Hey, that's the guy from..." I'd prefer a fresh face with serious talent and unlimited energy. Someone with no preconceived notions about the genre or character would also be nice.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 25, 2018 22:24:38 GMT
I could go with a mid card. Someone not famous, but "Hey, that's the guy from..." I'd prefer a fresh face with serious talent and unlimited energy. Someone with no preconceived notions about the genre or character would also be nice. But then you'd get the supporting cast as the names. I wouldn't mind the Chadwicks or the Hemsworths or even the Evans of the world as Namor. Chadwick starred in movies, but he wasn't a name until Black Panther.* Even then he was surrounded by Jordan, Freeman, Serkis and Whitaker. Look at Evans. The only reason we know him is F4. Most of his movies he is a supporting, but standout, character. They threw Tommy Lee Jones, Stanley Tucci and Hugo Weaving at us in First Avenger. That's why I say give it to someone kinda known, but not so famous that they think they can take control (Norton).
*Even then I think the character overpowers the actor. Same with others that aren't popular outside of them being the character.
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Post by merh on Aug 26, 2018 2:48:30 GMT
I'd prefer a fresh face with serious talent and unlimited energy. Someone with no preconceived notions about the genre or character would also be nice. But then you'd get the supporting cast as the names. I wouldn't mind the Chadwicks or the Hemsworths or even the Evans of the world as Namor. Chadwick starred in movies, but he wasn't a name until Black Panther.* Even then he was surrounded by Jordan, Freeman, Serkis and Whitaker. Look at Evans. The only reason we know him is F4. Most of his movies he is a supporting, but standout, character. They threw Tommy Lee Jones, Stanley Tucci and Hugo Weaving at us in First Avenger. That's why I say give it to someone kinda known, but not so famous that they think they can take control (Norton). *Even then I think the character overpowers the actor. Same with others that aren't popular outside of them being the character.
Evans was in The Losers with Jeffrey Dean Morgan & Push with Dakota Fanning. Both are sci-fi/comic book. And he was one of the ex's in Scott Pilgrim So he had hearthrob going. As for Hemsworth
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 26, 2018 11:17:18 GMT
But then you'd get the supporting cast as the names. I wouldn't mind the Chadwicks or the Hemsworths or even the Evans of the world as Namor. Chadwick starred in movies, but he wasn't a name until Black Panther.* Even then he was surrounded by Jordan, Freeman, Serkis and Whitaker. Look at Evans. The only reason we know him is F4. Most of his movies he is a supporting, but standout, character. They threw Tommy Lee Jones, Stanley Tucci and Hugo Weaving at us in First Avenger. That's why I say give it to someone kinda known, but not so famous that they think they can take control (Norton). *Even then I think the character overpowers the actor. Same with others that aren't popular outside of them being the character.
Evans was in The Losers with Jeffrey Dean Morgan & Push with Dakota Fanning. Both are sci-fi/comic book. And he was one of the ex's in Scott Pilgrim So he had hearthrob going. As for Hemsworth Push was a smaller movie. We noticed him because of F4 (maybe even Not Another Teen Movie). With movies like Losers and F4 and even Scott Pilgrim, Evans was, like I said, a supporting character that was a standout.
As for Hemsworth, still nobody knew him in the U.S. He wasn't a name until Avengers where he started to be everywhere. So he still fit in that area of not big, but kinda known by fans when cast.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 26, 2018 22:37:45 GMT
I'd prefer a fresh face with serious talent and unlimited energy. Someone with no preconceived notions about the genre or character would also be nice. But then you'd get the supporting cast as the names. I wouldn't mind the Chadwicks or the Hemsworths or even the Evans of the world as Namor. Chadwick starred in movies, but he wasn't a name until Black Panther.* Even then he was surrounded by Jordan, Freeman, Serkis and Whitaker. Look at Evans. The only reason we know him is F4. Most of his movies he is a supporting, but standout, character. They threw Tommy Lee Jones, Stanley Tucci and Hugo Weaving at us in First Avenger. That's why I say give it to someone kinda known, but not so famous that they think they can take control (Norton).
*Even then I think the character overpowers the actor. Same with others that aren't popular outside of them being the character.
Fair enough. I tend to think of actors as commodities. In some cases they border on interchangeable in my mind. I admit to being color blind in the celebrity department. For Namor, I'm just hoping for a lesser known individual that is talented. It would also be a plus if they didn't know much about Aquaman or Namor as not to create some inherent bias in their performance or reactionary choices. Namor, on the big screen, should be a creature of pure invention. I wouldn't mind if he were less perpetually pissed off and arrogant than he is in the comics.
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Post by merh on Aug 26, 2018 23:39:32 GMT
Evans was in The Losers with Jeffrey Dean Morgan & Push with Dakota Fanning. Both are sci-fi/comic book. And he was one of the ex's in Scott Pilgrim So he had hearthrob going. As for Hemsworth Push was a smaller movie. We noticed him because of F4 (maybe even Not Another Teen Movie). With movies like Losers and F4 and even Scott Pilgrim, Evans was, like I said, a supporting character that was a standout. As for Hemsworth, still nobody knew him in the U.S. He wasn't a name until Avengers where he started to be everywhere. So he still fit in that area of not big, but kinda known by fans when cast.
You don't know old school nerds. Morgan was daddy Winchester so yeah, i bought the video for Losers. And Evans was in FF & that so when I found Push in a pile of used dvds, I picked it up. Scott Pilgrim was all the rage at CCI the year it was released. Most of the fan groups I belonged to in the 80s tracked appearances of actors from sci fi shows. I belonged to several Dark Shadows groups that kept us up on who was appearing on what each month.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 28, 2018 15:36:34 GMT
But then you'd get the supporting cast as the names. I wouldn't mind the Chadwicks or the Hemsworths or even the Evans of the world as Namor. Chadwick starred in movies, but he wasn't a name until Black Panther.* Even then he was surrounded by Jordan, Freeman, Serkis and Whitaker. Look at Evans. The only reason we know him is F4. Most of his movies he is a supporting, but standout, character. They threw Tommy Lee Jones, Stanley Tucci and Hugo Weaving at us in First Avenger. That's why I say give it to someone kinda known, but not so famous that they think they can take control (Norton).
*Even then I think the character overpowers the actor. Same with others that aren't popular outside of them being the character.
Fair enough. I tend to think of actors as commodities. In some cases they border on interchangeable in my mind. I admit to being color blind in the celebrity department. For Namor, I'm just hoping for a lesser known individual that is talented. It would also be a plus if they didn't know much about Aquaman or Namor as not to create some inherent bias in their performance or reactionary choices. Namor, on the big screen, should be a creature of pure invention. I wouldn't mind if he were less perpetually pissed off and arrogant than he is in the comics. Not knowing the character could be good as well as a bad thing. I mean, Hugh Jackman studying up on Wolverine gave us a Wolverine that's better than he should have been. He even ad-libbed a few "Bub"s. It's funny how many "pissed off and arrogant" solo characters there are at Marvel (at least in the beginning).
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 28, 2018 16:33:08 GMT
Push was a smaller movie. We noticed him because of F4 (maybe even Not Another Teen Movie). With movies like Losers and F4 and even Scott Pilgrim, Evans was, like I said, a supporting character that was a standout. As for Hemsworth, still nobody knew him in the U.S. He wasn't a name until Avengers where he started to be everywhere. So he still fit in that area of not big, but kinda known by fans when cast.
You don't know old school nerds. Morgan was daddy Winchester so yeah, i bought the video for Losers. And Evans was in FF & that so when I found Push in a pile of used dvds, I picked it up. Scott Pilgrim was all the rage at CCI the year it was released. Most of the fan groups I belonged to in the 80s tracked appearances of actors from sci fi shows. I belonged to several Dark Shadows groups that kept us up on who was appearing on what each month. That's what I'm saying by " We". We notice these actors because of the movies we watch. They are in our wheelhouse. But at the same time they aren't big time actors. That's why I call them mid cards. Patrick Stewart wasn't this big time a-list actor, but we knew him outside of home because of Star Trek TNG and movies like Dune.
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