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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 28, 2018 15:39:32 GMT
CaptainMidnight examines Tony Stark's arc in the MCU and compares it to the stuff of Greek tragedy in this editorial,
Thoughts?
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Post by charzhino on Aug 28, 2018 17:34:46 GMT
Interesting.
Stark has multiple arcs. Captain Midnight (who is a sensationalist jackass MCU fanboy - just check his 2nd to last video) touches on one of those arcs and its pretty true. Stark does feel the need to keep building tech to close to gap on a ever power escalating world filled with super powered beings. And its true hes just a man in a suit whose ego wont allow him to step aside or maybe ask someone else to step into the Iron suit. And thats admirable from a courageous pov as hes able to hold his own - atleast for a few minutes vs Thanos.
But there are other arcs set up from the first film that dont leave him in the best of lights. Starting off as reckless and care less in his approach of running his business as well as personal life with Pepper. Neither character arc is resolved up till now - he is still reckless and careless.
However the main arc is being his inability to team up with others and work as a unit. Something which cost him a rejection in the initial set up of the Avengers. Thats where Cap is right in his argument with Tony, he only acts like a hero and is self centred. He redeems this however in the ending of Avengers when he is willing to sacrafice himself with the nuke in space and work as a team. But then in following MCU films they totally retard and destroy his redemption.
In IM3 he nearly gets pepper killed by shouting out his home address. In Age of ultron he tries to create a world security network without consulting anyone except Banner and that almost leads into world extinction. In civil war he turns into a hypocrite by favouring the accords - then ends up bringing a kid to a super powered fight putting him in direct danger (something he was feeling guilty over at the beginning of CW). Then in IW as as result of his petulant inability to keep and lead a team, The Avengers are not in best place to combat an incoming alien threat.
But Captain Midnight chooses to focuse on his 1 positive arc which is fine, but overal balance is needed.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 28, 2018 17:45:05 GMT
Interesting. Stark has multiple arcs. Captain Midnight (who is a sensationalist jackass MCU fanboy - just check his 2nd to last video) touches on one of those arcs and its pretty true. Stark does feel the need to keep building tech to close to gap on a ever power escalating world filled with super powered beings. And its true hes just a man in a suit whose ego wont allow him to step aside or maybe ask someone else to step into the Iron suit. And thats admirable from a courageous pov as hes able to hold his own - atleast for a few minutes vs Thanos. But there are other arcs set up from the first film that dont leave him in the best of lights. Starting off as reckless and care less in his approach of running his business as well as personal life with Pepper. Neither character arc is resolved up till now - he is still reckless and careless. However the main arc is being his inability to team up with others and work as a unit. Something which cost him a rejection in the initial set up of the Avengers. Thats where Cap is right in his argument with Tony, he only acts like a hero and is self centred. He redeems this however in the ending of Avengers when he is willing to sacrafice himself with the nuke in space and work as a team. But then in following MCU films they totally retard and destroy his redemption. In IM3 he nearly gets pepper killed by shouting out his home address. In Age of ultron he tries to create a world security network without consulting anyone except Banner and that almost leads into world extinction. In civil war he turns into a hypocrite by favouring the accords - then ends up bringing a kid to a super powered fight putting him in direct danger (something he was feeling guilty over at the beginning of CW). Then in IW as as result of his petulant inability to keep and lead a team, The Avengers are not in best place to combat an incoming alien threat. But Captain Midnight chooses to focuse on his 1 positive arc which is fine, but overal balance is needed. Um, how is Captain Midnight a "sensationalist jackass MCU fanboy"? Not every video he makes is in 100% praise of the MCU. He called the Wakanda battle in Avengers: IW flawed, he criticized the Netflix shows being 13 episodes, and said there was a writing problem in Ant-Man and the Wasp. He's also shown support for the Venom and Into the Spider-Verse movies and hailed the latest Mission: Impossible as the best action film of the year.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 28, 2018 17:49:40 GMT
He made a video last week saying "why Xmen dark phoneix will NEVER be released in theatres" and he couldnt cite one credible source. Its clear to see what agenda he has when he resorts to conjecture and smear campaigning.
And i liked his video about how to improve the Wakanda battle scene.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 28, 2018 18:26:00 GMT
Most fascinating to me, Stark is stuck on a floating rock with Nebula.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 29, 2018 4:01:46 GMT
He made a video last week saying "why Xmen dark phoneix will NEVER be released in theatres" and he couldnt cite one credible source. Its clear to see what agenda he has when he resorts to conjecture and smear campaigning. And i liked his video about how to improve the Wakanda battle scene. In his defense the movie hasn't really been getting much positive attention, the hype train isn't as powerful as any other upcoming Marvel comics based film.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 29, 2018 7:33:51 GMT
He made a video last week saying "why Xmen dark phoneix will NEVER be released in theatres" and he couldnt cite one credible source. Its clear to see what agenda he has when he resorts to conjecture and smear campaigning. And i liked his video about how to improve the Wakanda battle scene. In his defense the movie hasn't really been getting much positive attention, the hype train isn't as powerful as any other upcoming Marvel comics based film. Ye and hes perpetuating that by creating more negativity and going so far as to categorically claim the film will never be released without peoper evidence. Its a snidey thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 17:44:33 GMT
Most fascinating to me, Stark is stuck on a floating rock with Nebula. Hopefully this is where we finally get to see the Thanoscopter. Nebula and Tony have to figure out a way to get off the planet and form a team to fight Thanos. All the other spaceships are scrap heaps. Nebula says: "Well, there's one way..." Cut to them in a dusty, ruined building pulling the tarp off the Thanoscopter. It lingers for a moment center frame. Tony gives a bemused look and starts craning his head around and asks "Is... is it behind this junk?" Nebula gives him an irritated look and says "This used to belong to my father. With a few modifications, we may be able to get to Earth." After some banter and cutting back to the other Avengers for a bit, we get a fun montage of them finding parts and fixing it up to Creedence's Fortunate Son. Finally, it's ready to go, and for the first time we get to see the Thanoscopter cruising through space.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 0:21:43 GMT
I wonder how he is going to manage to get back to earth.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 30, 2018 23:02:33 GMT
I liked how he earned Thanos respect.
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