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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 5:52:58 GMT
I agree that Thor would do more damage but I also remember that if Superman gets pissed enough kryptonite and magic become ineffective aswell. I don't recall DCEU Superman ever brushing off kryptonite just because he was pissed. Oh forgot it's movie versions. Nevermind.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 29, 2018 5:54:19 GMT
Probably Superman. He's that quick that he'd be able to cause worldwide destruction before anyone could do much of anything about it. Nukes can't bring Superman down. I imagine a Nuke could probably bring down Thor...maybe. If the Hulkbuster can punch out the Hulk then I can't see Thor surviving a Nuke. A nuke left Superman in near death state. He needed the sun to rejuvenate him. He can't simply tank a nuke.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 29, 2018 5:57:08 GMT
Crazy Superman because Supes is more intelligent than Thor.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 29, 2018 5:57:50 GMT
BTW I think an evil Thor or an evil Thor Clone will be introduced in the MCU.
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Post by dazz on Aug 29, 2018 6:53:56 GMT
Based on the movies, Superman is the bigger threat, especially if we put it in the real world aka a world without kryptonite or magic, everything else we know does little to nothing to him, sure the nuke ko'd him for like 5 minutes but it was a nuke he was willing to eat and whilst he was busy restraining Doomsday and not trying to protect himself from, where as Asguardians aren't gods in the films by and large, and no feat Thor's been shown doing is comparable to the rather low key feats Supes has pulled off in the DCEU, pulling the downed ship through the ice or holding together tectonic plates, if he can hold them together I imagine he can force them apart also, that's some crazy damage Supes can do, where as we have no idea if Thor can eat a nuke and be fine, probably but theres doubt atleast, Supes we know give him 5 minutes and he's back and he'll be even more pissed.
Comic wise is a little different as it's like which one we going by? in some stories Thor is unstoppable same with Superman, whilst superman seems weaker they highlight it quite a few times how much of Superman's true power he refrains from showing, but Thor is also an actual god with divine powers in the comics, but also he's a functioning moron at times, so it's just kind like eh what issue we choosing to judge them on because Thor issue #129 vs. Superman #96 maybe all Thor, but #128 vs. #67 and Supes maybe picking his teeth with what's left of Thor.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 29, 2018 16:14:09 GMT
I personally think it's Thor, due to his combination of massive AOE attacks plus his ability to now Bifrost to anywhere in the world. Also, there's the fact that he has no known weakness. With Superman, we know that enough radiation can weaken him so humanity has at least some form of weapon against him... though honestly I think he's too fast to get hit with anything substantial anyway. And I guess there's an off chance that someone will find kryptonite. Anyway, Earth is f*cked either way. Just think that Thor can do it faster and that humanity has a few tools to hurt Superman. Sounds reasonable.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 29, 2018 16:15:22 GMT
Based on the movies, Superman is the bigger threat, especially if we put it in the real world aka a world without kryptonite or magic, everything else we know does little to nothing to him, sure the nuke ko'd him for like 5 minutes but it was a nuke he was willing to eat and whilst he was busy restraining Doomsday and not trying to protect himself from, where as Asguardians aren't gods in the films by and large, and no feat Thor's been shown doing is comparable to the rather low key feats Supes has pulled off in the DCEU, pulling the downed ship through the ice or holding together tectonic plates, if he can hold them together I imagine he can force them apart also, that's some crazy damage Supes can do, where as we have no idea if Thor can eat a nuke and be fine, probably but theres doubt atleast, Supes we know give him 5 minutes and he's back and he'll be even more pissed. Comic wise is a little different as it's like which one we going by? in some stories Thor is unstoppable same with Superman, whilst superman seems weaker they highlight it quite a few times how much of Superman's true power he refrains from showing, but Thor is also an actual god with divine powers in the comics, but also he's a functioning moron at times, so it's just kind like eh what issue we choosing to judge them on because Thor issue #129 vs. Superman #96 maybe all Thor, but #128 vs. #67 and Supes maybe picking his teeth with what's left of Thor. Wait, when has DCEU Superman held together tectonic plates?
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Post by hobowar on Aug 29, 2018 16:28:50 GMT
It's not a DC or Marvel movie. It's a what if scenario. It would all depend who writes its If the writers wants it to be Superman it would be Superman If the writers wants it to be Thor it would be Thor Its that simple I have nothing more to say about this subject. Stan Lee said the exact same thing when someone asked him if the Human Torch could beat Spider-Man.
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Post by dazz on Aug 29, 2018 19:09:44 GMT
Based on the movies, Superman is the bigger threat, especially if we put it in the real world aka a world without kryptonite or magic, everything else we know does little to nothing to him, sure the nuke ko'd him for like 5 minutes but it was a nuke he was willing to eat and whilst he was busy restraining Doomsday and not trying to protect himself from, where as Asguardians aren't gods in the films by and large, and no feat Thor's been shown doing is comparable to the rather low key feats Supes has pulled off in the DCEU, pulling the downed ship through the ice or holding together tectonic plates, if he can hold them together I imagine he can force them apart also, that's some crazy damage Supes can do, where as we have no idea if Thor can eat a nuke and be fine, probably but theres doubt atleast, Supes we know give him 5 minutes and he's back and he'll be even more pissed. Comic wise is a little different as it's like which one we going by? in some stories Thor is unstoppable same with Superman, whilst superman seems weaker they highlight it quite a few times how much of Superman's true power he refrains from showing, but Thor is also an actual god with divine powers in the comics, but also he's a functioning moron at times, so it's just kind like eh what issue we choosing to judge them on because Thor issue #129 vs. Superman #96 maybe all Thor, but #128 vs. #67 and Supes maybe picking his teeth with what's left of Thor. Wait, when has DCEU Superman held together tectonic plates? ![](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/c/ce/BvSFeat.png)
We aren't shown him doing it but it is something he has done in the universe as the news clipping on the far right states, so that's the power level of Superman in the DCEU which is fucking mental, I know he's towed planets and shit in the past in comics and stuff but still a live action Superman that is that powerful is insane, but also explains how Diana can just about hold her own with Steppenwolf whilst Superman trounces him like a bitch.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 29, 2018 20:48:42 GMT
Anyone ever read Irredeemable? It's a story about a hero named the Plutonian (with Superman's power set) going berserk and becoming the ultimate villain. There's a companion series called Incorruptible about a villain who's trying to stop the Plutonian. It's a great read. The question at hand is a difficult one considering we don't know what Thor is capable of nowadays. I'd lean toward Superman as of this writing. Yes, those are great reads, and both started strong. But both ended kinda "meh".
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 30, 2018 11:45:51 GMT
Anyone ever read Irredeemable? It's a story about a hero named the Plutonian (with Superman's power set) going berserk and becoming the ultimate villain. There's a companion series called Incorruptible about a villain who's trying to stop the Plutonian. It's a great read. The question at hand is a difficult one considering we don't know what Thor is capable of nowadays. I'd lean toward Superman as of this writing. Yes, those are great reads, and both started strong. But both ended kinda "meh". Agreed, both stories kind of ended with a whimper. But it was more about the journey, anyway. I don't know that a world shattering slugfest would've made the story any better.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 30, 2018 18:37:01 GMT
Yes, those are great reads, and both started strong. But both ended kinda "meh". Agreed, both stories kind of ended with a whimper. But it was more about the journey, anyway. I don't know that a world shattering slugfest would've made the story any better. Probably not. But it would've gone out in style!
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