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Post by Aj_June on Aug 29, 2018 2:45:56 GMT
I personally haven't got any problems with eating meat and neither have I got any particular problem with people who don't like eating meat. Different people have different sets of ethics and I respect all of them unless someone goes campaigning viciously against other people's stance on the issue. Many times people say that Vegetarians/Vegans force their propaganda all over. May be true. It depends upon one's experience. In my experience I have rarely seen vegans going mad on the topic. It is mostly anti-vegans who keep saying vegans are all over. But as I said another person might have different experience because of living in different region or different society.
So the question is:
1. Have you ever felt bad about eating meat? 2.If yes then what makes you feel bad about meet eating? Ethics of how animals are raised or simply that killing an animal for food is not an appropriate thing?
3. If you feel bad about meat eating and still indulge in meat eating then what justification you give for the behaviour? Or you simply acknowledge that meat eating is not a very good thing but you do it because meat may be more healthy or tasty for you?
Please discuss the topic respectfully, considering the views of others.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 29, 2018 3:24:16 GMT
I don't have a problem with eating meat.
It's tasty although I would never kill it myself.
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Post by Catman on Aug 29, 2018 3:33:59 GMT
Catman does not eat meat. He does not concern himself with the personal tastes of others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 5:39:18 GMT
I am one of 3.5 million vegans in the UK alone. The number is growing rapidly as people choose compassionate living, and a plant based diet.
Haven't eaten meat for over 30 years.
I would eat human flesh as soon as any other animal. There is no difference.
It is important to be a voice for the voiceless. Join in debate on the issue, and take direct action on animal rights (sabotaging hunts, burning animal transport lorries in their depots, blockading meat farms and slaughterhouses, exposing farms and farmers cruel practices, causing economic damage to the animal exploitation industry, etc etc).
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 29, 2018 5:45:24 GMT
Catman does not eat meat. He does not concern himself with the personal tastes of others. Thanks for your response Catman! Yeah, but why do you chose not to eat meat? Is it because you find non-meat diet as more healthy or because you believe killing animal to eat may not fit into your ethics?
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Post by drystyx on Aug 29, 2018 6:37:04 GMT
Meat is slow poison. Particularly mammals. They don't digest, and the human body doesn't cope with it well.
When I was a kid, we pretty much just ate "game", meaning rabbit and squirrel, fish and turtle. Rabbit never did digest well. Squirrel is one of the few mammals that digest a bit better.
I used to like steaks and burgers, but they got me sicker and sicker, and finally stopped eating them in about 1991. The changes on my body was phenomenal. I could run ten times further, and do many things I never could before.
There's also a more supernatural effect of "confusion" that eating meat puts on your soul. It does act within the brain, as a part of the enemy's world. It isn't by accident that "fasting" is a religious practice.
I don't even eat the more digestible mammals any more (squirrel and deer), because there is no need to. I still eat fish, with a fondness for salmon and tuna mostly, and birds, though I try to cut down on chicken. I like eggs and dairy products, too.
The less that any animal is in your diet, the better off your health is, but particularly mammals. Some people can do the "eat meat twice a week" thing, but that would just drive me crazy. I had to go cold turkey.
I think my case is fairly typical for people who stop eating meat. For the first two months or so, I was going crazy, and I wouldn't even eat fish or birds. Just fruits and vegetables.
In about the third month, it was easier, with the "craving" gone, though I still thought of the good taste of a medium rare rib eye steak. But it wasn't torture to pass up.
After about six months, mammal meat actually began to repulse me. I realized that it was a drug that just got me sick. Lets call it what it is: a dangerous drug on the order of opiates.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 29, 2018 6:53:43 GMT
In about the third month, it was easier, with the "craving" gone, though I still thought of the good taste of a medium rare rib eye steak. But it wasn't torture to pass up. After about six months, mammal meat actually began to repulse me. I realized that it was a drug that just got me sick. Lets call it what it is: a dangerous drug on the order of opiates. Yeah, I guess this is true about most of the changes we try to bring in ourselves. The first month or first few weeks may be more difficult to resist and then you get used to. Same happens to people who want to cut down on sugar.
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Post by geode on Aug 29, 2018 9:35:11 GMT
I had an experience feeling uncomfortable eating a kind of meat many years ago. I was sitting next to my Jewish friend Mark. Pork chops were the special that evening, but I chose something else in deference to the religious beliefs of my friend. He was the next to order and went for the pork chop.
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 29, 2018 10:11:27 GMT
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 29, 2018 10:36:54 GMT
Meat is slow poison. Particularly mammals. They don't digest, and the human body doesn't cope with it well. When I was a kid, we pretty much just ate "game", meaning rabbit and squirrel, fish and turtle. Rabbit never did digest well. Squirrel is one of the few mammals that digest a bit better. I used to like steaks and burgers, but they got me sicker and sicker, and finally stopped eating them in about 1991. The changes on my body was phenomenal. I could run ten times further, and do many things I never could before. There's also a more supernatural effect of "confusion" that eating meat puts on your soul. It does act within the brain, as a part of the enemy's world. It isn't by accident that "fasting" is a religious practice. I don't even eat the more digestible mammals any more (squirrel and deer), because there is no need to. I still eat fish, with a fondness for salmon and tuna mostly, and birds, though I try to cut down on chicken. I like eggs and dairy products, too. The less that any animal is in your diet, the better off your health is, but particularly mammals. Some people can do the "eat meat twice a week" thing, but that would just drive me crazy. I had to go cold turkey. I think my case is fairly typical for people who stop eating meat. For the first two months or so, I was going crazy, and I wouldn't even eat fish or birds. Just fruits and vegetables. In about the third month, it was easier, with the "craving" gone, though I still thought of the good taste of a medium rare rib eye steak. But it wasn't torture to pass up. After about six months, mammal meat actually began to repulse me. I realized that it was a drug that just got me sick. Lets call it what it is: a dangerous drug on the order of opiates. I was getting groceries from the store when I noticed they had cans of "Brunswick Stew." I was surprised because I didn't think many people would want a stew with squirrel in the recipe. I read the label. It did not contain any squirrel.
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 29, 2018 10:40:20 GMT
I had an experience feeling uncomfortable eating a kind of meat many years ago. I was sitting next to my Jewish friend Mark. Pork chops were the special that evening, but I chose something else in deference to the religious beliefs of my friend. He was the next to order and went for the pork chop. Sometimes people driving in Richmond will disregard their right of way to let others go first. Then there is a "no, you go first," then "no, you go first" that takes forever. My feeling is that if you have the right of way just go.
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Post by Catman on Aug 29, 2018 12:22:44 GMT
Catman does not eat meat. He does not concern himself with the personal tastes of others. Thanks for your response Catman! Yeah, but why do you chose not to eat meat? Is it because you find non-meat diet as more healthy or because you believe killing animal to eat may not fit into your ethics? Catman just doesn't like the taste of meat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 13:47:56 GMT
I should start by saying I was raised to eat meat and dairy every day. We had fish sticks on Friday (Starting out because it was Catholic “law,” then continuing out of habit.) My mother, when on a diet, would have salad instead and complain about eating “rabbit food.” I started to feel bad about certain foods 10+ years ago, when I heard that pigs were as intelligent as dogs. The only time I eat their meat anymore is on pizza (It just doesn’t seem like real pizza without pepperoni,) or some other dish where it’s a small ingredient (ex., Bolognese sauce in pasta,) or if someone I know is cooking something they like with it. After that, when learning about how horribly these animals are treated, I have been gradually reducing my meat and dairy intake. I do still eat fish every week (although now on Mondays,) but I buy it either wild-caught or sustainably farmed. I make a dish with hamburger and beans every week that my husband and I like, although in restaurants known for burgers, I will eat the ones made out of beans. I have always loved cheese, and until very recently had eaten it as a snack every day. However, I have been able to substitute a bowl of mixed nuts instead. I’m not sure I can eliminate animal products completely, though - I still need skim milk with my cereal, and I don’t much like salad (especially when eating out, since some always gets stuck in my teeth.) Since I continue to look for options, though, I am hopeful I can reduce further (perhaps start using soy milk instead of real, etc.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 14:07:13 GMT
I should start by saying I was raised to eat meat and dairy every day. We had fish sticks on Friday (Starting out because it was Catholic “law,” then continuing out of habit.) My mother, when on a diet, would have salad instead and complain about eating “rabbit food.” I started to feel bad about certain foods 10+ years ago, when I heard that pigs were as intelligent as dogs. The only time I eat their meat anymore is on pizza (It just doesn’t seem like real pizza without pepperoni,) or some other dish where it’s a small ingredient (ex., Bolognese sauce in pasta,) or if someone I know is cooking something they like with it. After that, when learning about how horribly these animals are treated, I have been gradually reducing my meat and dairy intake. I do still eat fish every week (although now on Mondays,) but I buy it either wild-caught or sustainably farmed. I make a dish with hamburger and beans every week that my husband and I like, although in restaurants known for burgers, I will eat the ones made out of beans. I have always loved cheese, and until very recently had eaten it as a snack every day. However, I have been able to substitute a bowl of mixed nuts instead. I’m not sure I can eliminate animal products completely, though - I still need skim milk with my cereal, and I don’t much like salad (especially when eating out, since some always gets stuck in my teeth.) Since I continue to look for options, though, I am hopeful I can reduce further (perhaps start using soy milk instead of real, etc.) Replace milk with oat milk (hazelnut milk if you like it creamy and sweet). Replace cheese with vegan cheeses. Plenty of quality varieties available now, for salad and cooking uses. Replace peperroni with vegan spiced sausage slices. Again many varieties to try. Companies are now nailing the meat taste and texture in meat substitute products if you need a stepping stone.
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Post by general313 on Aug 29, 2018 14:07:19 GMT
Thanks for your response Catman! Yeah, but why do you chose not to eat meat? Is it because you find non-meat diet as more healthy or because you believe killing animal to eat may not fit into your ethics? Catman just doesn't like the taste of meat. I hope that Catman doesn't try to impose his diet on his kitties.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 14:11:16 GMT
I don`t care what people eat.
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 29, 2018 14:44:17 GMT
1. Have you ever felt bad about eating meat? 2.If yes then what makes you feel bad about meet eating? Ethics of how animals are raised or simply that killing an animal for food is not an appropriate thing?
I have never felt bad about eating meat. I have never felt bad about eating meat (for any reason), either when I was a Christian, or now as an atheist.
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Post by general313 on Aug 29, 2018 14:54:54 GMT
I rarely eat beef and pork, preferring chicken and fish for my protein intake, however, the fine Italian pork products are hard to pass up (prosciutto, pancetta, etc.) I believe the scientific data on the health benefits of vegetarian and vegan diets is inconclusive, and that going moderate is likely more healthy than either generous consumption of meat or complete abstinence. I try to follow a Mediterranean diet: it seems to be good for my bloodtests, makes me feel good and it tastes good. That and plenty of exercise is a good plan in my opinion. I have friends that are strict vegan, mainly out of concern for their health, but they don't exercise hardly at all, and I think they're fooling themselves into thinking that diet alone will keep themselves healthy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 15:22:24 GMT
I don't see me ever quitting meat.
That said, factory farming is atrocious and I do my best to avoid meats produced by such and similar means.
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 29, 2018 15:36:26 GMT
once offered a dollar
i was once offered a dollar to swallow whole the entire length of a friends polska kielbasa, without gagging.
we had these ridiculously silly nicknames for each others cocks back then so we could talk about it and not have the priests getting too excited before the weekend.
sjw 08/29/18 inspired at this very moment in time by meat lovers everywhere.
from the 'boner series' of poems
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