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Post by RiP, IMDb on Aug 31, 2018 5:30:58 GMT
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Post by dividavi on Aug 31, 2018 8:26:19 GMT
Here are some poignant excerpts in the letter that Sister Claire received from her friend Anne, a resident of Hell: Are Catholics really so stupid to believe this bullshit for even an instant? Does the fear of Hell for non-existent crimes suffice to prevent them from seeing how stupid this is? Do they really need phony miracles like incorruptible corpses and Apparitions to believe? This is all mental illness and I respect it not at all. |
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Post by clusium on Aug 31, 2018 20:32:33 GMT
Here are some poignant excerpts in the letter that Sister Claire received from her friend Anne, a resident of Hell: Are Catholics really so stupid to believe this bullshit for even an instant? Does the fear of Hell for non-existent crimes suffice to prevent them from seeing how stupid this is? Do they really need phony miracles like incorruptible corpses and Apparitions to believe? This is all mental illness and I respect it not at all. What do you know about what is, and what is not, a "non-existent crime?!?!" Who died, & made you the Supreme Judge?!?!  No, none of this is mental illness. Do you want to know what form mental illness is?!?! I'll tell you what a type?!?! Having a Narcissistic personality disorder. Now, there just cannot be anybody around here who is completely full of themselves, posting on this (& the old)message forum, can there...?!?!?!  |
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Post by dividavi on Sept 1, 2018 1:17:51 GMT
Here are some poignant excerpts in the letter that Sister Claire received from her friend Anne, a resident of Hell: Are Catholics really so stupid to believe this bullshit for even an instant? Does the fear of Hell for non-existent crimes suffice to prevent them from seeing how stupid this is? Do they really need phony miracles like incorruptible corpses and Apparitions to believe? This is all mental illness and I respect it not at all. What do you know about what is, and what is not, a "non-existent crime?!?!" Disbelief in some theoretical entity is a non-existent crime. Anne's mistake was her refusal to accept this entity while she was in the Heavenly Waiting Room. She had doubts about the proper course of action and for that non-existent crime she's sentenced to Hell for nor a period not less than eternity. Jesus of Nazareth, son of Mary and Panthera, cousin of John the Baptizer. That's who. Actually, I'm not the Supreme Judge of anything. Dear Clusium, I am not your enemy. Rather, I am your friend, your best friend, in fact your only friend. You see, of all the people in the world only I speak to you with complete candor. As your BFF, I must point out that you're evil, damned, and you will soon be in Eternal Hell, a place you fully deserve. The nonsensical letter from Anne to Sister Claire is bullshit and only a twisted mind, such as yours, would pretend otherwise. There might be a Heaven, there might be a Hell, there might be criteria for determining who goes where. Don't lie and say you know those criteria because you know shit. It might be that only Atheists who live good lives go to Heaven while everybody else goes to Hell. It might be that only those who claim to know what happens after death go to Hell. I'm talking about people like you, Clusium. Change your ways, Clusium. I say this with all the unctuousness I can muster. On a side note I urge you not to use BIG words like narcissistic unless you check first with a dictionary. You don't sound sophisticated when you do that; you just sound stupid. You might wish to use an interrobang (‽) instead of a cluster of question marks and exclamation points. The Wikipedia article on interrobang says this:Writers using informal language may use several alternating question marks and exclamation marks for even more emphasis, however this is regarded as poor style in formal writing. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 1, 2018 3:11:42 GMT
What do you know about what is, and what is not, a "non-existent crime?!?!" Disbelief in some theoretical entity is a non-existent crime. Anne's mistake was her refusal to accept this entity while she was in the Heavenly Waiting Room. She had doubts about the proper course of action and for that non-existent crime she's sentenced to Hell for nor a period not less than eternity. Jesus of Nazareth, son of Mary and Panthera, cousin of John the Baptizer. That's who. Actually, I'm not the Supreme Judge of anything. Dear Clusium, I am not your enemy. Rather, I am your friend, your best friend, in fact your only friend. You see, of all the people in the world only I speak to you with complete candor. As your BFF, I must point out that you're evil, damned, and you will soon be in Eternal Hell, a place you fully deserve. The nonsensical letter from Anne to Sister Claire is bullshit and only a twisted mind, such as yours, would pretend otherwise. There might be a Heaven, there might be a Hell, there might be criteria for determining who goes where. Don't lie and say you know those criteria because you know shit. It might be that only Atheists who live good lives go to Heaven while everybody else goes to Hell. It might be that only those who claim to know what happens after death go to Hell. I'm talking about people like you, Clusium. Change your ways, Clusium. I say this with all the unctuousness I can muster. On a side note I urge you not to use BIG words like narcissistic unless you check first with a dictionary. You don't sound sophisticated when you do that; you just sound stupid. You might wish to use an interrobang (‽) instead of a cluster of question marks and exclamation points. The Wikipedia article on interrobang says this:Writers using informal language may use several alternating question marks and exclamation marks for even more emphasis, however this is regarded as poor style in formal writing.No, that was not Annette's sin in life. She believed in God. She just didn't care. The only thing I agree with you in your entire BS post, is that you're definitely not the supreme judge of anything. Dear Dividavi, thank you for your assurance that you are my Best Friend Forever. Now, Best Friend, pray tell the following: 1)When did I ever say either here, or on the old message forum, that atheists were damned to Hell?!?! Do enlighten me, as I have never claimed to say that was where they went. There is only one particular religion is a sure ticket to Hell (unless the adherent leaves before it is too late), & I've even mentioned it. If you have paid attention before, My Dear BFF, you will know which one it is. Hint: It wasn't atheism. 2)When I refer to you or someone else as being narcissistic, I am making something known as an observation. You see, I've been posting on the IMDB RFS message forums for 4 years now (counting both the old one & this one), & that pretty much was my experience of your behaviour on both boards. And this most recent post of yours, did nothing to refute that observation. Only further confirmed it. Thank you, Best Friend Forever. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 3:12:23 GMT
What do you know about what is, and what is not, a "non-existent crime?!?!" Who died, & made you the Supreme Judge?!?! No, none of this is mental illness. Do you want to know what form mental illness is?!?! I'll tell you what a type?!?! Having a Narcissistic personality disorder. Now, there just cannot be anybody around here who is completely full of themselves, posting on this (& the old)message forum, can there...?!?!?! 
I'd say it's more about Catholic narcissism and delusion.
No. More like atheistic narcissism & delusion, to be interested in giving their own personal opinions on a Religion Message Forum. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 3:46:11 GMT
No. More like atheistic narcissism & delusion, to be interested in giving their own personal opinions on a Religion Message Forum. This is not a forum just for religious people, but a forum for discussions about religion, faith and spirituality. Please keep your Catholic entitlements to yourself, to go along with the delusion and narcissism. I realize what this forum is for. Its for discussing religion, & since Catholicism is religion, it is for this. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 4:10:17 GMT
I realize what this forum is for. Its for discussing religion, & since Catholicism is religion, it is for this. And your point is? My point is, if you are going to go to a religion message forum, expect to see topics pertaining to religion on there. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 12:01:54 GMT
My point is, if you are going to go to a religion message forum, expect to see topics pertaining to religion on there. That is not your point, it is your own denial you are projecting, because you don't want to hear the truth about the cult you follow. If you go to a religion thread, expect your beliefs to be challenged. Yes, that was my point. If I go to an atheist forum, or more importantly, an ANTI-THEIST message forum, I expect to see what I believe in challenged. Anyhow, many of these same atheists & anti-theists that attack Christianity, would not do the same thing to things that are believed by Hindus, Buddhists, and/or even Muslims & Jews, should they post topics to their beliefs on a religion forum. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 15:15:34 GMT
Yes, that was my point. If I go to an atheist forum, or more importantly, an ANTI-THEIST message forum, I expect to see what I believe in challenged. Anyhow, many of these same atheists & anti-theists that attack Christianity, would not do the same thing to things that are believed by Hindus, Buddhists, and/or even Muslims & Jews, should they post topics to their beliefs on a religion forum. You DO NOT want to hear people challenge your belief, because you are inflexible, steadfast and dogmatic about it. That is all it boils down too. Anti-theist messages are also a part of this forum as well. You have only exposed your entitlements again about what you only want to hear if something contravenes what you believe in you will play devil's advocate.
I guess you also chose the short straw for your religion as well then. I have seen many religious beliefs challenged on here. Do we hear much from Muslims though, or Jewish belief, or Buddhist belief on this forum as we do from Christians attempting to hold onto their delusion of Christ and God?
If I was not interested in having my beliefs challenged, I would a)not come to a public message forum, & b)turn OFF the atheists & anti-theists here. Rather, it is YOU GUYS, who will immediately ATTACK any religious person who dares to a story or something on a public message forum, that is for religion. You people cannot voice your disagreements WITHOUT verbal attacks or abuse. While it is true that there are not many Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, here on this PARTICULAR forum, it still doesn't negate the fact that if/when we do hear of them, they tend to receive more respect, than Christian belief. Most of the atheists on this forum alone, for example, tend to give Muslims far more leniency, when they (Muslims)feel that their belies are attacked, than they would for Christians. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 2, 2018 23:54:24 GMT
If I was not interested in having my beliefs challenged, I would a)not come to a public message forum, & b)turn OFF the atheists & anti-theists here. Rather, it is YOU GUYS, who will immediately ATTACK any religious person who dares to a story or something on a public message forum, that is for religion. You people cannot voice your disagreements WITHOUT verbal attacks or abuse. While it is true that there are not many Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, here on this PARTICULAR forum, it still doesn't negate the fact that if/when we do hear of them, they tend to receive more respect, than Christian belief. Most of the atheists on this forum alone, for example, tend to give Muslims far more leniency, when they (Muslims)feel that their belies are attacked, than they would for Christians. So your main upset is regarding the bias towards Christianity being attacked. This is a western society based database, so more Christians will be expressing their pov's. Perhaps it is also the manner in which the belief is expressed and since it is a forum about 'discussion' of religion, philosophy and spirituality you are posting on, so if you dare to come on and spout cultish fairytale nonsense that isn't grounded in any fact based or logical reasoning, be prepared to get challenged and owned for what you write. This can happen the same on any of the other forum here, like politics. There will be some who go along with you, when you can preach to the converted and there will be some that will oppose this. No point in crying in your cornflakes about it. You might also learn something new.
And just for the record, I will challenge the notion of the atheist belief as well and while Islam has been discussed here, I don't ever recall discussing the beliefs with a poster who has openly claimed they are Muslim.
This is a western society based database, eh?  OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Anybody can come here to post from any part of the world. Nothing would stop a person from Pakistan, India, or Japan from posting here. And for the record, I have been posting on mainly religious message forums for going on 18 years now. So, believe it or not, I have quite a bit of experience of posting back & forth with trolls, bigots, etc. I'd be very interested to see you "challenging the notion of the atheist belief," as well, especially considering the fact that atheism is all about a "lack of belief in God or gods." So how do you go about doing that, I would like to know...? There was a former poster back on the old message forum, who claimed to be Muslim (a very rude poster actually). Can't remember what the user ID was he used though (though some people said it was the poster who also went by the user ID of Heartspin, the guy who claimed to have been a pedophile). |
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 3, 2018 2:16:43 GMT
clusiumYeah, but it's pretty much boils down to this quote from Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979)... you can see liberals are getting more and more like that to where they are cool with just about everything else besides Jesus Christ.
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Post by clusium on Sept 3, 2018 2:57:45 GMT
clusium Yeah, but it's pretty much boils down to this quote from Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979)... you can see liberals are getting more and more like that to where they are cool with just about everything else besides Jesus Christ. Very true, & well said. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 3, 2018 18:50:40 GMT
This is a western society based database, eh? OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Anybody can come here to post from any part of the world. Nothing would stop a person from Pakistan, India, or Japan from posting here. And for the record, I have been posting on mainly religious message forums for going on 18 years now. So, believe it or not, I have quite a bit of experience of posting back & forth with trolls, bigots, etc. I'd be very interested to see you "challenging the notion of the atheist belief," as well, especially considering the fact that atheism is all about a "lack of belief in God or gods." So how do you go about doing that, I would like to know...? There was a former poster back on the old message forum, who claimed to be Muslim (a very rude poster actually). Can't remember what the user ID was he used though (though some people said it was the poster who also went by the user ID of Heartspin, the guy who claimed to have been a pedophile).  So you are now in denial about this database not being predominantly populated by Western users. The largest contingency of members here are from the US and I also believe the admin is from the USA, or if not from a western country. This is why most religious posters on here have a Christian denomination. Are you in denial of that too?  It doesn't matter if only 1 poster was Muslim, because what I see on here is Christian beliefs being discussed.
Belief is belief, it doesn't even exist, only in ones deluded mindset. Any belief can get challenged, just as yours do, except that you can only think in terms of what you think you know to be right and your own self-entitlements. If you are posting on other religious message forums, do you fall into the same holes like you do on here? Interesting when one doesn't share your concept or beliefs, that they suddenly becomes trolls and bigots. Who's to say you are not a troll for posting about your Catholic beliefs? If you want people to side with you, do it on a Catholic forum, I'm sure that will be less challenging for you. It is not bigoted to challenge a phony belief and what exactly is your stance anyway? If those that challenge what you believe and you feel so strongly and deeply about it, then defend it with honor and reason and not to mention something that is logical and back it up with facts and proof of what you know to be true.
No, I'm not in denial that it is a Western-based database. I am in denial that it prevents people from other parts of the entire world from using it. Facebook is also Western-based, yet there are people from all over the entire world using that website, & ditto for Twitter, & other such websites too. Its not so much that people who disagree with me or others, that make them trolls & bigots. It is the verbal attacks & mockery, by those that disagree that makes them so. One does not have to agree with another, but, it doesn't mean there has to be rudeness or arrogance in doing so. Of course, this being a general religious forum, & not specifically, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or even atheist, that all different religious views (& lack of) are going to be shared here. But, we can do so, without attacking what we disagree with. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 3, 2018 19:16:51 GMT
No, I'm not in denial that it is a Western-based database. I am in denial that it prevents people from other parts of the entire world from using it. Facebook is also Western-based, yet there are people from all over the entire world using that website, & ditto for Twitter, & other such websites too. Its not so much that people who disagree with me or others, that make them trolls & bigots. It is the verbal attacks & mockery, by those that disagree that makes them so. One does not have to agree with another, but, it doesn't mean there has to be rudeness or arrogance in doing so. Of course, this being a general religious forum, & not specifically, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or even atheist, that all different religious views (& lack of) are going to be shared here. But, we can do so, without attacking what we disagree with. What has that got to do with what I said earlier? That was your own twisted slant on it. Preventing people from other parts of the world using the database is just your own deflection and devil's advocate pov. Yes, you are in denial and not to mention transparent. Your own arrogance and passive aggressive tone speaks volumes. That would also be due to religious conditioning. If one is going to talk crap on a discussion thread, especially about bogus religious ideals, then it often gets flung back that is just human nature regarding many things. You are not absolved here, just by dressing up your own conceit.
Who said anything about preventing other people from other parts of the world from using this database?!?! In what way have I been arrogant with you??? Have I verbally abused you in any kind of way?!?! You obviously know nothing about cordial debate, if you think there is nothing wrong with rudeness towards others, when the OP starts a discussion, without any kind of verbal attack. Let me recommend Toastmasters'International for you. They will teach you how to discuss things you disagree with, without any kind of rudeness or arrogance. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 3, 2018 22:41:28 GMT
Who said anything about preventing other people from other parts of the world from using this database?!?! In what way have I been arrogant with you??? Have I verbally abused you in any kind of way?!?! You obviously know nothing about cordial debate, if you think there is nothing wrong with rudeness towards others, when the OP starts a discussion, without any kind of verbal attack. Let me recommend Toastmasters'International for you. They will teach you how to discuss things you disagree with, without any kind of rudeness or arrogance. You are just being ridiculous now. You have no logical or solid reasoning on the Catholic religious belief regarding this topic. Where did I say you have been bluntly rude or arrogant with me? I said it is in your passive tone that belies you. Those are the claims you are making about others. You are focusing on what is irrelevant, to avoid looking at the other substance you are being countered with due to fear of the belief you cling steadfastly to being dismantled and not worthy of truth.
Oh, and as an afterthought, this is your own sarcasm and hypocrisy regarding your point about attack:
The only reason for my own rude response to Dividavi, is BECAUSE of his own unnecessary rudeness towards RIP IMDB, as well as many other past rude & arrogant posts. If posters are going to resort to ad hominem attacks, they will only RECEIVE the same type of responses. If Dividavi (or even yourself, for that matter) doesn't believe in Hell, he should either a)voice his views on the subject without using verbal attacks, or b)just ignore RIP IMDB's topic altogether. If he hadn't responded to this, the chances are, this topic would have probably been ignored & just disappear into the subsequent pages of RFS. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 4, 2018 3:46:42 GMT
The only reason for my own rude response to Dividavi, is BECAUSE of his own unnecessary rudeness towards RIP IMDB, as well as many other past rude & arrogant posts. If posters are going to resort to ad hominem attacks, they will only RECEIVE the same type of responses. If Dividavi (or even yourself, for that matter) doesn't believe in Hell, he should either a)voice his views on the subject without using verbal attacks, or b)just ignore RIP IMDB's topic altogether. If he hadn't responded to this, the chances are, this topic would have probably been ignored & just disappear into the subsequent pages of RFS.So, then it is ok for you to respond to others in same the manner that you are admonishing, but as long as others don't do the same to you. Right! Got it! More self-serving entitlements.
If you didn't like the response, why not ignore it yourself, instead of provoking it with your own take on it? I guess that would make for a pretty boring discussion forum don't you think?
Not necessarily. There's still plenty of things to talk about without all that anti-God propaganda getting in the way. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 4, 2018 4:18:01 GMT
The only reason for my own rude response to Dividavi, is BECAUSE of his own unnecessary rudeness towards RIP IMDB, as well as many other past rude & arrogant posts. If posters are going to resort to ad hominem attacks, they will only RECEIVE the same type of responses. If Dividavi (or even yourself, for that matter) doesn't believe in Hell, he should either a)voice his views on the subject without using verbal attacks, or b)just ignore RIP IMDB's topic altogether. If he hadn't responded to this, the chances are, this topic would have probably been ignored & just disappear into the subsequent pages of RFS.So, then it is ok for you to respond to others in same the manner that you are admonishing, but as long as others don't do the same to you. Right! Got it! More self-serving entitlements.
If you didn't like the response, why not ignore it yourself, instead of provoking it with your own take on it? I guess that would make for a pretty boring discussion forum don't you think?
Except that I usually DON'T post rude to people on message forums. For the most part, I try to have friendly discussions with people. It's only when OTHERS do it, that I decide to give them a taste of their own medicine. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 4, 2018 4:19:48 GMT
Not necessarily. There's still plenty of things to talk about without all that anti-God propaganda getting in the way. Again, what is it that is misunderstood about talk of God, be it pro or anti on a religious discussion thread? It is not designed as a fan base for Christianty, or to be hijacked for complete ownership by the true believers. If you don't want to hear contentious comments about your own beliefs, go visit another thread that is not related to RFS. Interesting, but it doesn't rebut what I said. There would still be a lot to talk about if the God-haters were to vanish like a puff of smoke. And they wouldn't even be missed. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 4, 2018 4:31:42 GMT
Except that I usually DON'T post rude to people on message forums. For the most part, I try to have friendly discussions with people. It's only when OTHERS do it, that I decide to give them a taste of their own medicine. You don't do it very well blossom. From your own point of view. I do not get accused of being abusive towards others, by people on forums. |
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OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Anybody can come here to post from any part of the world. Nothing would stop a person from Pakistan, India, or Japan from posting here. And for the record, I have been posting on mainly religious message forums for going on 18 years now. So, believe it or not, I have quite a bit of experience of posting back & forth with trolls, bigots, etc. I'd be very interested to see you "challenging the notion of the atheist belief," as well, especially considering the fact that atheism is all about a "lack of belief in God or gods." So how do you go about doing that, I would like to know...?
