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Post by london777 on Sept 7, 2018 23:32:12 GMT
In the developed world, whence 99% of our movies originate, most people no longer work on the land. By far the most common occupation is working in an office, yet office life is a comparatively rare topic for movies. The obvious reason is that is it is boring. Few people actually enjoy working in an office. It is a challenge for the film-maker to create something of interest, if we exclude office-work in areas that are inherently more glamorous or unpredictable, such as law-enforcement, emergency services, medicine, sports, military, fashion, education, or the media.
With some reluctance, I have included board-rooms in the topic, partly because there is an overlap, and partly because this thread might be a bit thin otherwise.
Those films that do tackle the subject mostly fall into one of two categories (although there is a lot of overlapping of themes):
A) Jealousy, maneuvering for position, protecting your turf, and power-struggles for control, whether over the company or (in one case) over the best stapler.
B) Office workers so bored, frustrated or humiliated that they crack-up mentally, or resort to desperate, often criminal, measures.
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Post by london777 on Sept 7, 2018 23:48:21 GMT
Let us list some in category (A) first: Executive Suite (1954) dir: Robert Wise. I liked Wise's earlier films best. This marks his transition to glamorous Hollywood star-studded A-movies. When the old president dies, various vice-presidents compete to succeed him. But as he left the decision to his daughter (Barbara Stanwyck), and one of the VP's is as attractive as William Holden, the decision is a foregone conclusion. The idea that a modern manufacturing company would choose to make quality products instead of going for a quick buck churning out rubbish was wildly optimistic. Still, there is some enjoyable skulduggery during the ride towards the "Hollywood Ending". Patterns (1956) dir: Fielder Cook. An early work from Cook, who thereafter worked mainly in TV, but the main interest here is in the story and screenplay by Rod Serling, maverick innovator in television drama who died too soon. Two company directors (Van Heflin and Ed Begley) amicably compete to succeed the President (Everett Sloane). I think of this one as "Executive Suite" for grown-ups as the psychology is more subtle and the resolution more realistic. A welcome and rare screen appearance by Beatrice Straight. Desk Set (1957) dir: Walter Lang. I have not seen this Tracy/Hepburn vehicle for over 50 years, but if I remember correctly it is less about struggling for power than about Hepburn's fear of being replaced by a computer, a very early example of a situation that is ever-more prevalent today. A Shock to the System (1990) dir: Jan Egleson. Simon Brett's novel is set in London and I suspect the black comedy would have been more subtle had the film followed suit. Here the jokes are too heavy-handed and the plot-points spelled out as if the audience were not too bright. In this latter part of his career Michael Caine was a lazy actor repeating the same performance. Oddly, the downbeat ending of the novel is set up here, but not followed through on, and a more cynical one replaces it. A late change of plan? I was impressed by Elizabeth McGovern, and reading up on her afterwards, I am now further impressed. She chose to move from Hollywood to Chiswick, London, UK. Great choice! In Good Company (2004) written and directed by Paul Weitz is on a theme common in movies and more common in real life (as I know all too well). An older man (here Dennis Quaid) in cruise control resents being subordinated to a younger whiz-kid (here Topher Grace). The same trope is the motivator in "A Shock to the System". Scarlett Johansson is the love interest. The Apartment (1960) dir: Billy Wilder. Jack Lemmon ingratiates himself with senior managers by letting them use his apartment for trysts. Working Girl (1988) dir: Mike Nichols. Nothing to do with "working girls" as we know and love them where I live, but a sharp satire about back-stabbing and jealousy climbing the corporate ladder, given a typical '80s assertive females twist. Sigourney Weaver, Melanie Griffith and Joan Cusack steal the show. Early role for Kevin Spacey who plays a slimy creep, as does Alec Baldwin. The Devil Wears Prada (2006) dir: David Frankel. I was a bit reluctant to include this one as its commercial success relied on its depiction of a supposedly glamorous environment, a leading fashion magazine, whereas I am looking for movies with as generic a background as possible. But it does include many of the tropes from types (A) and (B), particularly the "survival of the fittest" system for retention and promotion. Office (2015), a Hong Kong musical comedy dir: Johnnie To. A satire on corporate politics written by and starring Sylvia Chang. With Yun-Fat Chow. Not to be confused with a Korean movie with the same title and from the same year listed below. The Office (2001) UK TV Series (2001–2003) written and directed by Ricky Gervais & Stephen Merchant. Long running mockumentary which was Gervais' finest hour. I do not think there was too much in the way of power struggles. It was more a question of getting through the day. First UK sitcom to win a Golden Globe, and generated dozens of foreign versions and spin-offs. The Brittas Empire UK TV Series (1991–1997) starring Chris Barrie. The location is the small management office of a suburban sports centre. Not so cool and sarcastic as "The Office". Very British humor rooted in the Ealing tradition, it was surely an influence on the latter series but not as universally pertinent. We all thought it was hilarious in the firm where I was shirking at the time as our boss was a clone of Mr Brittas.
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Post by london777 on Sept 8, 2018 0:06:36 GMT
Turning to category (B): Office Space (1999) dir: Mike Judge is based on Judge's long-running "Milton" and "Dilbert" cartoons of office life. Three workers hate their job and conspire to get back at the bosses. But the despised and humiliated Milton comes out of it best. Gary Cole as the nauseating office manager is a clone of one of my former superiors. Wait - I should not have used that word. To quote one of the few good lines in "A Shock to the System": Detective Laker: "He was your superior, wasn't he?" Michael Caine character: "No, he was my boss." Waydowntown (2000) dir: Gary Burns is a Canadian movie filmed in Calgary (though not named as such). Five bored young office workers bet on who can remain longest in the (admittedly huge) office/mall complex without ever going outside. As the days and nights approach the one month mark they all start cracking up in different ways. Like a more surreal and philosophical "Office Space". Horrible Bosses (2011) dir: Seth Gordon. Perhaps suggested by "Office Space", this trio's hatred is more directed at their bosses personally than at the system in general, and they take things a bit further.
9 to 5 (1980) dir: Colin Higgins. More '80s feminism but this time the girls (Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin, and Dolly Parton) stick together to defeat their male chauvinist boss instead of scratching each other's eyes out. American Psycho (2000). Mary Harron directed and co-wrote it. A hard film to describe, but one main theme is rivalries between executives. Christian Bale has been handed a plum VP post through family connections, and we never see him do a stroke of work in the film. I do not think his madness has been engendered by office or corporate life. I guess he would have been equally crazy as a forest ranger, but I do see the movie as a satire on consumer capitalism. A miracle the film ever got made if you read about the tortuous path to eventual production. A surreal masterpiece (?) with some memorable scenes. My favorite is the (fatal) debate over the business cards. In the Company of Men (1997) written and directed by Neil LaBute, shows two young executives, one a misogynist, the other a weakling recently hurt in love, bullying and tormenting a naive and innocent female office worker. Again, hard to say how much their behavior is induced by the office environment. It is listed as a comedy on IMDb. No way! Office (2015) dir: Hong Won-chan. I have not seen this Korean slasher movie so I welcome comments from anyone who has. A section head murders his entire family then hides in the office building and murders staff members, one by one. He Was a Quiet Man (2007) dir: Frank A. Cappello - (An almost unrecognizable) Christian Slater stars as a downtrodden and bitter office worker who attempts to carry out a massacre of his detested co-workers. But fate has other plans for him. Low budget but quirkily original. William H Macy is the loyal company stooge. Bartleby (2001) dir: Jonathan Parker. One of a dozen screen versions of Herman Melville's famous story which seems to anticipate both Kafka and Camus. Crispin Glover is one of the most interesting "minor" actors around and he is great here as the clerk who refuses to work or leave the premises, ultimately starving himself to death. Good to see Seymour Cassel and the late Glenne Headly as well. Finally, a movie which does not have much in common with any of the foregoing, other than the setting: Il Posto (1961) Directed and co-written by Ermanno Olmi, based on his own experiences. A very young college leaver applies for, and after negotiating an absurd entrance exam, gains, an office job with a large firm. Once inside, he begins to realize he is trapped in a battery hen existence. Patient documentary-style realism becomes surreal by implication.
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Post by london777 on Sept 8, 2018 0:12:33 GMT
I saw you sneaking in, teleadm. What a gentleman you are! I did not want to post the whole lot in one go because I have found that adding pictures to a very long post is a nightmare.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 8, 2018 0:13:15 GMT
Well now that the obvious first choices from Column A have been dealt with … how's about one from column B Office Space (1999)Three engineers have had enough of the daily grind working their dull, mundane jobs at Initech Corporation. Subjected to filling out useless forms, fighting with faulty office equipment, and their obnoxious boss Bill Lumbergh are enough to drive anyone crazy. There's also other odd characters like Tom Smykowski and Milton Waddams. When Initech announces that they're bringing in "consultants" to "clean house" (read: fire a bunch of programmers so that means a nice big bonus for the boss), Michael, Samir, and Peter scheme to reclaim their freedom with a software programming scheme that aims to take Initech for a small fortune through a virus that is designed to skim a little off the top. Unfortunately thanks to a typo, that virus skims a lot off. Realizing they don't have much time the three scramble to cover their tracks, but constantly shoot themselves in the foot. Can they recover and get out of their predicament safely? And will Milton reclaim his famous red stapler?It's not deep. It's not really thought provoking. BUT it is a hella-lotta-fun ! Edit: ok so the OP snuck in the really good ones in column B while I was typing .. <shrug>
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Post by london777 on Sept 8, 2018 0:27:37 GMT
Well now that the obvious first choices from Column A have been dealt with … how's about one from column B Edit: ok so the OP snuck in the really good ones in column B while I was typing .. <shrug> I am not suggesting they are all good movies. Some I have not seen. What previous "topic" threads have shown is that when we think we have listed all the obvious ones, a lot more turn up later and we think "How did I forget that one?". Plus manfromplanetx lists a lot of movies we have never heard of but which look damned interesting.
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Post by OldAussie on Sept 8, 2018 0:38:13 GMT
The cold-callers (the most soul sapping job of the modern economy?) of Wall Street, Wolf of same and Glengarry Glen Ross.
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Post by manfromplanetx on Sept 8, 2018 0:40:43 GMT
Hi there london777A marvellous film from the masterful hand of director Eldar Ryazanov Sluzhebnyy roman , Office Romance (1977) Was written by the director and is noted for its scenes of Moscow city in the late 1970s, and for its satirical depiction of the everyday office life and customs of Soviet society at this time. A wonderfully entertaining film tells the story of Ludmila Kalugina, office head of a statistical bureau, and her subordinate, economist Anatoly Novoseltsev, both share a mutual aversion to each other, when an assistant director wants to make Novoseltsev the head of the department he encounters objections from the boss Ludmila Kalugina ..
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Post by london777 on Sept 8, 2018 1:12:50 GMT
The cold-callers (the most soul sapping job of the modern economy?) of Wall Street, Wolf of same and Glengarry Glen Ross. All good choices. GGR is a favorite of mine and the DVD is about six inches from my nose as I write, so: How did I miss that?
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Post by manfromplanetx on Sept 8, 2018 1:21:28 GMT
Boardroom... Garazh , The Garage (1980) Eldar Ryazanov A special meeting of an office cooperative takes place to reduce the number of garages available for construction, which is less than the number needed to accommodate all the workers cars. The controversial decision has already been decided and arranged by the chairholder and the board executives, the decision passes easily at a hastily convened boardroom meeting, But unexpectedly the meeting room's only entrance and exit has been locked by an anonymous member and the key has gone missing... Set in the confines of a locked meeting room, the film is brilliant biting satire. As the meeting is forced to drag on through the night, for the first time in their lives the privileged members of the group are forced to negotiate for an equitable outcome. The incisive film can be seen as an allegorical social indictment of Soviet bureaucracy, corruption, and injustice... Highly Recommended !!
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Post by mattgarth on Sept 8, 2018 1:22:34 GMT
Mid-1950s Eisenhower era in films:
EXECUTIVE SUITE WOMAN'S WORLD PATTERNS THE POWER AND THE PRIZE THE MAN IN THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT
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Post by OldAussie on Sept 8, 2018 1:32:52 GMT
Just some weird observations I have regarding a couple of movies mentioned.
THE MAN IN THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT - for some reason I think of this as a kind of sequel to The Best Years of Our Lives. Does that make any sense?
EXECUTIVE SUITE - Was the first movie I thought of when I read the topic. The Fredric March / William Holden rivalry seems to strongly mirror the Nixon / Kennedy election. So much so that it seems intentional on the part of writer, director and actors. Yet the movie predates the reality by 6 years.
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Post by manfromplanetx on Sept 8, 2018 2:05:43 GMT
Kyojin to gangu , Giants and Toys (1958) Corporate intrigue between warring firms Giant, World, and Apollo three competing caramel companies. A multi faceted corporate, office themed film, a delirious production way ahead of its time from Yasuzô Masumura With a glaring focus on commercial ruthlessness, on the exploitations of capitalist corporations. The wicked satire opens with an executive looking out of his high rise office onto the crowded streets below exclaiming "all I can see is candies" The film is set within the marketing departments of rival companies who race with ideas aimed at luring kids into buying their product. Highly Recommended !! Reflecting the growing dread at the rise of corporate strongholds Yasuzô Masumura made another brilliant boardroom drama Kuro no tesuto kâ , Black Test Car (1962) a much darker take on capitalism on financial malfeasance. Set within an out of control and morally bankrupt world, it is an absorbing tale of two auto companies and their executives who order spy and sabotage missions trying to outdo each other... Kyojin to gangu (1958)
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Post by manfromplanetx on Sept 8, 2018 6:05:06 GMT
Life in the Pre-Code office... Female (1933) Employees Entrance (1933) Man Wanted (1932) Baby Face (1933) directed by Alfred E. Green, is probably one of the most notorious sexually charged Pre-Code films, which caused much controversy with the censors at the time. Starring with a wonderfully daring performance Barbara Stanwyck as wide-eyed Lily Powers who goes to work inside the Gotham Trust building in New York. She first seduces the office personnel worker to land a job carrying out menial office tasks, but she soon progress upward, sleeping her way to the top... From the pavement Lily ponders the high rise office building with its multiple floors sizing up her future rise to the top, with her is close friend Chico (Theresa Harris)
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Post by petrolino on Sept 8, 2018 13:11:18 GMT
Well now that the obvious first choices from Column A have been dealt with … how's about one from column B Office Space (1999)Three engineers have had enough of the daily grind working their dull, mundane jobs at Initech Corporation. Subjected to filling out useless forms, fighting with faulty office equipment, and their obnoxious boss Bill Lumbergh are enough to drive anyone crazy. There's also other odd characters like Tom Smykowski and Milton Waddams. When Initech announces that they're bringing in "consultants" to "clean house" (read: fire a bunch of programmers so that means a nice big bonus for the boss), Michael, Samir, and Peter scheme to reclaim their freedom with a software programming scheme that aims to take Initech for a small fortune through a virus that is designed to skim a little off the top. Unfortunately thanks to a typo, that virus skims a lot off. Realizing they don't have much time the three scramble to cover their tracks, but constantly shoot themselves in the foot. Can they recover and get out of their predicament safely? And will Milton reclaim his famous red stapler?It's not deep. It's not really thought provoking. BUT it is a hella-lotta-fun ! Edit: ok so the OP snuck in the really good ones in column B while I was typing .. <shrug>
Jennifer Aniston has a new film I've not seen called 'Office Christmas Party'.
'Office Space'
'Office Christmas Party' premiere in New York City
Do the 'Horrible Bosses' movies partly occur in office environments? I saw the first but forgot it.
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Post by petrolino on Sept 8, 2018 13:15:12 GMT
Mid-1950s Eisenhower era in films: EXECUTIVE SUITE WOMAN'S WORLD PATTERNS THE POWER AND THE PRIZE THE MAN IN THE GREY FLANNEL SUIT At the end of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's reign came this bombshell, H. Bruce Humberstone's shock expose 'Madison Avenue' (1961) which is well researched. Can't recommend it highly enough though some accused it of being borderline-amoral.
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Post by bravomailer on Sept 8, 2018 13:25:21 GMT
Seems that the post-WW2 period had a lot of movies pertaining to advertising agencies. MattGrth has already mentioned The Man in the Grey Flannel Suit. Others: The Hucksters, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?
Other office movies: Cash McCall
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Post by deembastille on Sept 8, 2018 13:59:12 GMT
board rooms... snippets and scenes
MR MOM [schooner tuna]
HITCH [when allegra asks permission to give some of her own money to her friend to help finance his 'thing'.]
ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE when that Potter ass was being a scrooge douchebag.
THE SECRET OF MY SUCCESS
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Post by marshamae on Sept 8, 2018 14:06:20 GMT
How did we leave out HOW TO SUCCEED IN BUSINESS WITHOUT REALLY TRYING?
The ultimate satire about 60’s office life with a great Frank Loesser score , Robert Morse in top form manipulating Rudy Vallée, having a whale of a time as the scarf knitting , old Ivy alumnus heading up World Wide Wickets! Still can’t believe they cut Coffee Break, Scooter Teague’s big number and one of the first examples of Bob Fosse’s close line with bent knees, the chorus lined up like spoons
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Post by mattgarth on Sept 8, 2018 14:17:56 GMT
Adding another '50s film (OK, released in 1960) set in Corporate America -- FROM THE TERRACE, based on the John O'Hara novel.
Rising executive Paul Newman dramatically chunks it all at the finale.
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