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Post by WarrenPeace on Sept 9, 2018 7:41:13 GMT
A vinyl record has two sides with approx. 20 min. for each.
I have time for one side and then catch the other one later.
A CD is continuous from beginning to end with no middle break and often times they can be more than 40 minutes.
So the only time I can really listen to a CD is when I'm busy with something else such as riding my bike, working out, busy in the kitchen or driving.
I suppose I could stop the CD but there is just something about putting something on a system and letting it play out that I'm used to.
Anyone else feel this way or can you sit there and give a CD your undivided attention for 60 or more minutes till it ends?
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Post by Admin on Sept 9, 2018 9:52:33 GMT
I blame CD's for the impending death of AOR.
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 9, 2018 16:50:23 GMT
A vinyl record has two sides with approx. 20 min. for each. I have time for one side and then catch the other one later. A CD is continuous from beginning to end with no middle break and often times they can be more than 40 minutes. So the only time I can really listen to a CD is when I'm busy with something else such as riding my bike, working out, busy in the kitchen or driving. I suppose I could stop the CD but there is just something about putting something on a system and letting it play out that I'm used to. Anyone else feel this way or can you sit there and give a CD your undivided attention for 60 or more minutes till it ends? I only listen to the original physical media when I'm working out, and my workouts are 35-40 minutes long. So to pause the exercise machine, go over and flip a record would be a hassle. Not to mention that my hands get sweaty and I wouldn't want to handle the record without washing my hands first. The other settings where I listen to music I own are on my computer (where I play MP3 rips of my CDs) and in my car (where I listen to MP3 CD album compilations). In those two settings, stopping/starting the album doesn't feel disruptive to me. But I know what you mean about how difficult it can be to listen to an entire album in one sitting, and the longer the album the more difficult it is. So I use that fact when I'm evaluating albums on YouTube for purchase. If the album can keep me engaged for its entire length, that's the sign of an album worth buying. |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Sept 9, 2018 16:55:48 GMT
I blame CD's for the impending death of AOR. That and the awesome artwork. Sometimes they have a booklet but it just ain't the same as a poster or other goodies that came with some albums. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 20:42:43 GMT
People still listen to CDs? How quaint.
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Post by Admin on Sept 9, 2018 22:11:03 GMT
I blame CD's for the impending death of AOR. That and the awesome artwork. Sometimes they have a booklet but it just ain't the same as a poster or other goodies that came with some albums. There was a time when many albums were meant to be taken as a whole and not a collection of disjointed singles. You would put on an LP and unless you got up and re-positioned the stylus to a different track, you were pretty much committed to listening to the whole thing, which turned you on to some excellent songs that you may not have ever heard otherwise. Artists used to put a lot of thought into the running order of the tracks to provide a more cohesive listening experience. For the most part, I think CD's do have a better sound quality than LP's, but the ability to skip tracks at the press of a button from anywhere in the room has all but destroyed that experience by catering to the ever-increasing popularity of short attention spans, for if a song doesn't grab the listener within a minute or two (if not a few seconds), it's a simple matter of hitting skip on the remote. The end result is not much different than only watching the "cool scenes" of a movie, thus diminishing the effect of the scene. One may as well as just play the scene in Star Wars where Darth Vader admits that he is Luke's father. Without context and a bit of emotional investment, the scene is rendered cold and stale. To me, the "boring parts" of movies are no less important than the "boring tracks" of an album (or in some cases, the "boring parts" of a song. If I had a nickel for every time someone thought the guitar solo was a good place to start talking...) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 22:20:06 GMT
The flipside of that argument is that a lot of albums have a lot of filler.
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Post by Admin on Sept 9, 2018 22:25:47 GMT
The flipside of that argument is that a lot of albums have a lot of filler. Well, I wasn't thinking of Taylor Swift when I posted all that. lol. I was mainly referring to AOR while secretly lamenting the rise of 99-cent singles that you can't even hold in your hands. I will always prefer physical media. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 1:02:04 GMT
I just meant I've probably listened to 4,000 albums over the past year on streaming and the amount of really quality music isn't as much as I would like.
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Post by Sulla on Sept 10, 2018 2:38:03 GMT
I blame CD's for the impending death of AOR. That and the awesome artwork. Sometimes they have a booklet but it just ain't the same as a poster or other goodies that came with some albums.
Yes! I had several posters mostly from live albums. I covered my entire bedroom walls, floor to ceiling with those and store-bought posters. The smaller areas were filled in with full page album ads from Rolling Stone back when it was a larger magazine.
The largest poster was from the 'Chicago at Carnegie Hall' four lp album.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Sept 10, 2018 3:47:46 GMT
That and the awesome artwork. Sometimes they have a booklet but it just ain't the same as a poster or other goodies that came with some albums. There was a time when many albums were meant to be taken as a whole and not a collection of disjointed singles. You would put on an LP and unless you got up and re-positioned the stylus to a different track, you were pretty much committed to listening to the whole thing, which turned you on to some excellent songs that you may not have ever heard otherwise. Artists used to put a lot of thought into the running order of the tracks to provide a more cohesive listening experience. For the most part, I think CD's do have a better sound quality than LP's, but the ability to skip tracks at the press of a button from anywhere in the room has all but destroyed that experience by catering to the ever-increasing popularity of short attention spans, for if a song doesn't grab the listener within a minute or two (if not a few seconds), it's a simple matter of hitting skip on the remote. The end result is not much different than only watching the "cool scenes" of a movie, thus diminishing the effect of the scene. One may as well as just play the scene in Star Wars where Darth Vader admits that he is Luke's father. Without context and a bit of emotional investment, the scene is rendered cold and stale. To me, the "boring parts" of movies are no less important than the "boring tracks" of an album (or in some cases, the "boring parts" of a song. If I had a nickel for every time someone thought the guitar solo was a good place to start talking...) Yeah, and didn't The Beatles Sgt. Peppers start all that? It was a concept album as if they were being a different band and they book end the album with an intro and then with a reprise, followed by A Day in the Life which is an excellent song to end it all. Each song is captivating and there is a variety of different styles. It opens up like a book with a photo. An insert of cut outs. Lyrics printed on the back. And, oh yeah, what is probably one of if not the best album cover of all time or at least the most iconic. Other examples would be Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and of course Tommy by The Who. |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Sept 10, 2018 3:50:55 GMT
That and the awesome artwork. Sometimes they have a booklet but it just ain't the same as a poster or other goodies that came with some albums.
Yes! I had several posters mostly from live albums. I covered my entire bedroom walls, floor to ceiling with those and store-bought posters. The smaller areas were filled in with full page album ads from Rolling Stone back when it was a larger magazine.
The largest poster was from the 'Chicago at Carnegie Hall' four lp album.
Have you heard of Fleet Foxes? One of their CDs is packaged like a record album which includes a small poster. Only thing I'm not too keen on is it's all in black and white and it's pretty abstract. Oh well. At least they tried to be a bit of a throwback. It's still good music though. And are you aware of the trick with the inner sleeve of Led Zep's In Through the Out Door? |
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Post by Sulla on Sept 10, 2018 3:58:31 GMT
Yes! I had several posters mostly from live albums. I covered my entire bedroom walls, floor to ceiling with those and store-bought posters. The smaller areas were filled in with full page album ads from Rolling Stone back when it was a larger magazine.
The largest poster was from the 'Chicago at Carnegie Hall' four lp album.
Have you heard of Fleet Foxes? One of their CDs is packaged like a record album which includes a small poster. Only thing I'm not too keen on is it's all in black and white and it's pretty abstract. Oh well. At least they tried to be a bit of a throwback. It's still good music though. And are you aware of the trick with the inner sleeve of Led Zep's In Through the Out Door? I've heard of Fleet Foxes, but I'm not familiar with their music.
I knew there were a few different sleeves for 'In Through the Out Door', but I never heard of washing them to reveal color. I just looked it up on wiki. And I even had that lp, dammit!
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Post by Admin on Sept 10, 2018 4:47:25 GMT
There was a time when many albums were meant to be taken as a whole and not a collection of disjointed singles. You would put on an LP and unless you got up and re-positioned the stylus to a different track, you were pretty much committed to listening to the whole thing, which turned you on to some excellent songs that you may not have ever heard otherwise. Artists used to put a lot of thought into the running order of the tracks to provide a more cohesive listening experience. For the most part, I think CD's do have a better sound quality than LP's, but the ability to skip tracks at the press of a button from anywhere in the room has all but destroyed that experience by catering to the ever-increasing popularity of short attention spans, for if a song doesn't grab the listener within a minute or two (if not a few seconds), it's a simple matter of hitting skip on the remote. The end result is not much different than only watching the "cool scenes" of a movie, thus diminishing the effect of the scene. One may as well as just play the scene in Star Wars where Darth Vader admits that he is Luke's father. Without context and a bit of emotional investment, the scene is rendered cold and stale. To me, the "boring parts" of movies are no less important than the "boring tracks" of an album (or in some cases, the "boring parts" of a song. If I had a nickel for every time someone thought the guitar solo was a good place to start talking...) Yeah, and didn't The Beatles Sgt. Peppers start all that? It was a concept album as if they were being a different band and they book end the album with an intro and then with a reprise, followed by A Day in the Life which is an excellent song to end it all. Each song is captivating and there is a variety of different styles. It opens up like a book with a photo. An insert of cut outs. Lyrics printed on the back. And, oh yeah, what is probably one of if not the best album cover of all time or at least the most iconic. Other examples would be Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and of course Tommy by The Who. Here's a claim that it was Frank Sinatra: www.englishlanguagefaqs.com/2015/12/did-frank-sinatra-record-first-concept.html  |
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Sept 10, 2018 13:01:10 GMT
Then to make things worse there was a time in the 90's where bands felt the need to make every album 74 minutes or whatever a CD could squeeze in.
And with vinyl I especially like that you can put on music without any television or display on. Seeing as anyone I know and myself plays music on a streaming service connected to a television or computer display, that gets annoying. Spinning a record just has a different feel to it. Seems to make the music more meaningful.
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