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Post by Aj_June on Sept 11, 2018 2:14:34 GMT
Please know one and all, belief DOES NOT EXIST. It is a figment of the deluded mind. If it does exist, show me where it is. Atheism and religious belief both surrounds the concept of God, so at least those that are either, are part of the way there.  All the best with rest of the journey to realization that the only god creator is you. I don't know about all that but I do agree that atheism and most religious beliefs surround the concept of God. Depending on their early experiences, people can become too consumed by these concepts. Sometimes to their own detriment. As for realising oneself as God. I have never felt an urge to realise that. I think a lot about eating good food, touring beautiful natural places and seeing a lot of good movies. For some reason God doesn't find any place in my thought process on personal level. Yes, how and what others believe may pique my interest. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 11, 2018 4:13:34 GMT
A proud apatheist - a bit of an oxymoron, hmm? I think one can be an apatheist only if raised like you. For someone who has had religion imposed on them as a child, it's a battle to assert what you no longer believe. I, for one, am constantly railing against what I perceive as attempts to get me to believe again. It's tiring, but in the context of my life, I constantly have to maintain barriers. I suppose if I liquidated my life, moved somewhere that no one knew me, I could be apatheist, but at my age... those roots are pretty long and deep, though the more reclusive I can be, the better. But until my mother passes away, resisting religion will be an issue for me. At 95, she is still determined to bring me back into the herd. Exactly. You used the most correct word "Oxymoron". An apatheist doesn't do logical reasoning and then arrive at conclusion that apatheism is the right thing. One just happens to be an apatheist. He/she simply lacks interest in god(s) for various reasons such as never having been in circle of very hardcore theists or simply because more important cultural things interested him or her in life. For example, cricket was the most important thing in my childhood. I didn't have time to ask questions about god because when I was back from school I started playing cricket.
Yes, I can see people who were raised in theist atmosphere being proud of finally giving away their former belief which might have been forced on them. I can also see someone proud to be religious after not being for all her life.
When I got home from school, I wanted to go straight out to the riding stable where my horse was boarded. I wasn't apathetic about my horse! I was learning to ride, my skills were improving and I just plain loved anything to do with horses. I've been trying to think of something that I am apathetic about, to try to compare. Aha! Computer programming. I use a computer, but have zero interest in how they do what they do. I have friends who are staunch Macintosh users and others that wouldn't use a Mac if you paid them, I sort of know the difference but I've used both, after being shown how to do a certain task. But you won't find me in the computer magazine section of the bookstore, I'm too busy with art and crafts, gardening and a few other oddball interests. If my PC is working so I can search the web for cute pictures of kittens or pay a bill online, I'm fine. If the PC is not working, I'm not fine and likely taking it to be fixed. I don't have any interest in figuring out what's wrong, I just want it to work. My late husband was a computer nerd and telecommunications expert. We met at the company we both worked at; he was in corporate planning and I was in the in-house graphics department. We never 'talked shop'. Our interests were elsewhere; classical music, horseback riding and travel. I think it is interesting that you see a difference in Eastern civilization's view of religion and Western civilization's more polarized view. |
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