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Post by egon1982 on Sept 12, 2018 14:45:50 GMT
I've been a fan of the Simpsons since i saw them on Tracy Ullman in 87 and 88 when i was 6/7 and loved those shorts and i taped every episode of the show from 1989 to 2000 and the show should had DIED in 2001! It was a biting satrical show with intelligence, heart, soul, anti-authority social satire and excellence with a proper use of celebrity guest voices. Even quality writing with wit/snark/sarcasm and intelligence. I've been a fan of adult animation for a long time as i did saw some in the 80s like Rock & Rule on HBO which my parents taped for me with Twice Upon a Time when i was 4 in 86 with Starchaser Legend of Orin and Warriors of the Wind aka the butchered Nausicaa then at 5 saw Fire and Ice and Wizards with Lord of the Rings and fantastic planet with my big brothers on video. I even enjoyed Liquid TV with Aeon Flux (the shorts and spin off show), The Maxx, Duckman, Spawn, Heavy Metal, Beavis and Butthead, King of the Hill, Fritz the Cat, Akira with various anime even Cowboy Bebop, Princess Mononoke and others growing up in the 90s as a kid/teenager.
I gave up on this show in 2003 and i moved on to other adult animation as the show was getting soured/stale as i feel anything past season 10 is NOT The Simpsons but Zombie Simpsons! I you feel The Simpsons is a product of the 90s and has no place in today's world when it should had died in 2001 with Futurama as it's replacement.
The show died in 2001 to me as i quit show after 2002 and gave up when we had better replacements like Futurama. Fox aka Fucks (a formerly great studio ran by people who care before they went for greed/caring about money more than quality just like Sony). I bet TRUE fans of the show who grew up in the late 80s and 90s like me who gave up after 2002 or 2003 or 2004 knew it was an abomination because gone was the intelligent satrical writing/soul/emotion/heart/intelligence is replaced by a living dead braindead corpse of a show puppeted by the greedy Fox who only cares for money than quality as Simpsons is now just another Sitcom than a meaningful intelligent show with emotion/heart/intellgence/soul as The Simpsons feel irrelevant nowadays compared to the 90s Simpsons and of course other adult animation nowadays.
I tried to watch an episode of new Simpsons and man oh man i felt my brain was melting and wanted to punch the TV. Even seeing the Lady Gaga episode in clips nearly gave me cancer.
Yet if the show ends next year, it's better to kill something than let it suffer for it's losing more viewers and merchandise sales are going down the drain. This show has became a wounded fatally dying soldier that was shot a bunch of times in a war field and seeping behind a building with other soldiers and is asking "please kill me! please kill me so i won't suffer anymore" or like a wounded half-dead animal that needs to be put down. The Simpsons had their place in the sun but since 2001 enough is enough, time to give up Fox and end this show next year! time to rest in peace, move on and done more than enough and more than enough episodes and more than enough episodes as it's becoming a joke of itself and Fox is hurting it's legacy and damaging it's legacy and i'm tired of it. I feel like Tom Atkins at the end of Halloween III with "Stop it, stop it, STOP IT!!!!". Plus had a good run in the 90s.
It's not only beating a dead horse, it's also beating a dead chidhood/teenhood friend friend who needs to be buried. It's now a shambling soulless unfunny poorly written husk of a show that is braindead.
SINO (Simpsons in Name Only which is post 2001) is NOT The Simpsons, By almost any measurement, The Simpsons is the most influential television comedy ever created. It has been translated into every major language on Earth and dozens of minor ones; it has spawned entire genres of animation, and had more books written about it than all but a handful of American Presidents. Even its minor characters have become iconic, and the titular family is recognizable in almost every corner of the planet. It is a definitive and truly global cultural phenomenon, perhaps the biggest of the television age.
if you flip on FOX at 8pm on Sundays, you will see a program that bills itself as The Simpsons. It is not The Simpsons. That show, the landmark piece of American culture that debuted on 17 December 1989, went off the air more than a decade ago. The replacement is a hopelessly mediocre imitation that bears only a superficial resemblance to the original. It is the unwanted sequel, the stale spinoff, the creative dry hole that is kept pumping in the endless search for more money to milk it. It is Zombie Simpsons.
It's better to kill this undead zombie of a show and move on! this isn't the 90s anymore as we moved on and glad the ratings are down. I hear Matt wants to pull the plug next year. Sometimes dead is better like Jud Crandal in Pet sematary said.
it's no longer a relevant show anymore. Now Regular Show, Rick and Morty, Bojack Horseman, Castlevania, Bob's Burgers, Archer or any anime for more relevant adult animation than Zombie Simpsons. Now for example, Bojack Horseman has the same heart/soul/intelligence/spirit and wit of The Simpsons (aka the REAL Simpsons), not like Zombie Simpsons.
I also feel with Conan and some of the other writers left even Phil Hartman's death, the show went downhill. The first 10 seasons had life and since 2000 it's been on life support.
But you know what as i'm a futurama and King of the Hill fan, i'm very happy and glad they ended on good notes and didn't become shambling zombie corpses as it's better to let them rest in peace and move on to make new fresh adult animation.
Now the show is a vegetable these days and unwatchable as i'm glad i stopped watching the show in 2003 and moved on to other adult animation. I even saw the awful Simpsons movie in theaters which i had been waiting years to see after hearing in magazines since 1991 about it and it should had been made in the 90s and released around there or in 2000, now that would had been one hell of a thing instead of waiting too long as it's just Zombie Simpsons The Movie.
In 2003 i finally did said "so long childhood partner, i will miss you" as i knew the show is dead and i moved on to cherish this show on DVD on Simpsons 1 to 10.
Here's a video to give you the idea:
And an excellent hardcore Simpsons (Seasons 1 to 10 era) site called Dead Homer's Society which talks about the 90s Simpsons episodes and Zombie Simpsons episodes
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 13, 2018 13:43:01 GMT
Season 20-29 are FAR better than Seasons 11-19. Seriously. I still watch the Simpsons with my girls every night. Nothing will beat the first seven or so seasons, but the show improved a lot at about season 20 or so. Some episodes in seasons 14-19 are downright horrible. The show can still be brilliant at times.
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Sept 13, 2018 14:56:58 GMT
In my mind The Simpsons was killed by Beavis & Butthead.
I do remember people basically watching what they referred to as "Bart". Once Bart got outdone by B&B it was over.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 14, 2018 1:33:27 GMT
Inversely, I think the 90's were a product of The Simpsons, among countless other pop icons.
The Simpsons helped push the needle away from the stale 70's & 80's. 2000's? New Simpsons seasons became obsolete. S1-10 or so are still golden.
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Post by egon1982 on Sept 14, 2018 10:26:22 GMT
Inversely, I think the 90's were a product of The Simpsons, among countless other pop icons. The Simpsons helped push the needle away from the stale 70's & 80's. 2000's? New Simpsons seasons became obsolete. S1-10 or so are still golden. Indeed and do you agree anything past season 10 is NOT THE SIMPSONS but Zombie Simpsons? you agree this show should had ended in 2001 and nowadays it's a wounded half-dead irrelevant animal? someone once said that being a Simpsons fan is like having a beloved relative or childhood/teenhood friend who’s been on life support for years and you’ve accepted they’re gone so you’re just waiting for someone to realize they need to pull the plug on them. Ever been to the website Dead Homer's Society?
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Sept 14, 2018 11:00:04 GMT
I watch only for Ralph Wiggum.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 14, 2018 14:11:14 GMT
Inversely, I think the 90's were a product of The Simpsons, among countless other pop icons. The Simpsons helped push the needle away from the stale 70's & 80's. 2000's? New Simpsons seasons became obsolete. S1-10 or so are still golden. Indeed and do you agree anything past season 10 is NOT THE SIMPSONS but Zombie Simpsons? you agree this show should had ended in 2001 and nowadays it's a wounded half-dead irrelevant animal? someone once said that being a Simpsons fan is like having a beloved relative or childhood/teenhood friend who’s been on life support for years and you’ve accepted they’re gone so you’re just waiting for someone to realize they need to pull the plug on them. Ever been to the website Dead Homer's Society? Being a Simpsons fan accepting of seasons 11 & beyond or whatever is denial. Unless you were born after 1995 & that's the new for you.
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Post by egon1982 on Sept 15, 2018 15:51:29 GMT
Indeed and do you agree anything past season 10 is NOT THE SIMPSONS but Zombie Simpsons? you agree this show should had ended in 2001 and nowadays it's a wounded half-dead irrelevant animal? someone once said that being a Simpsons fan is like having a beloved relative or childhood/teenhood friend who’s been on life support for years and you’ve accepted they’re gone so you’re just waiting for someone to realize they need to pull the plug on them. Ever been to the website Dead Homer's Society? Being a Simpsons fan accepting of seasons 11 & beyond or whatever is denial. Unless you were born after 1995 & that's the new for you. But do you think The Simpsons belong in the 90s and were the 90s and a product of it's time even on the anti-authority/90s product satire and it can't survive in the new millenium and belongs in it's own time? liken the transition between classic Simpsons & Zombie Simpsons to a cancer patient. At some point in its heyday, the show started to develop cancer cells which would’ve initially been misdiagnosed as benign but would gradually prove malignant. All was well at first; after all, it was still 99% itself despite the slowly developing & growing tumors which at first were so minuscule as to be undetectable. But alas, this wouldn’t last long, for eventually the cancer would take over, slowly killing its host & gradually depriving it of its vitality & vigor until it would die a slow, painful death; yet althewhile the cancer cells would imitate the original tissue they slowly replaced until the show would become 100% cancer passing itself off as its host which had been dead & gone for who knows how long exactly. Good analogy? although I’ve stuck with the zombie theme in saying that early episodes suffering from a subtle decline are like a “freshly bitten” zombie. You know something’s wrong with the person, you just can’t place it, and other people in the group keep trying to defend them, either due to denial or willful ignorance. But then as the wound starts festering and the infected person starts eying everyone’s craniums, you get more and more suspicious until the bitten individual latches on to one of the last stubborn members in the group who is in mid speech defending them, and takes a bite out of their face. At that point, most of the group acts accordingly, and anyone still willing to defend the zombie deserves what’s coming to them, getting killed or infected themselves. But the problem with Zombie Simpsons is that there’s a disproportionate amount of defenders in denial while the stinking, rotting corpse is gnawing on their skulls. We’re past B-flick territory and are firmly entrenched in Z-grade scripts. And do you agree Bob's Burgers, Bojack Horseman, Regular Show etc. are more relevant adult animation even Castlevania than to Zombie Simpsons? i mean for example Bob's Burgers and Bojack Horseman have the same intelligence/heart/soul/excellent writing/characterization of The Simpsons (aka The REAL ONES) and not like Zombie Simpsons.
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Post by ck100 on Sept 15, 2018 17:34:19 GMT
Well it came out in 1989 and was around for the whole 90's decade, so I'd say so.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 17, 2018 5:19:27 GMT
Being a Simpsons fan accepting of seasons 11 & beyond or whatever is denial. Unless you were born after 1995 & that's the new for you. But do you think The Simpsons belong in the 90s and were the 90s and a product of it's time even on the anti-authority/90s product satire and it can't survive in the new millenium and belongs in it's own time? I dunno… The Simpsons & its grade A quality is for the 90's as Family Guy was nearly for the 00's. I feel like The Simpsons' golden age was because its comedy writing was as profound as its emotional impacts. 21st century Simpsons have ditched the comedic chops & gone for trying to be the best family on tv. Which lands it in mediocrity & far too many stupid celeb cameos.
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Post by shannondegroot on Mar 14, 2019 5:01:27 GMT
Yes, but the 90's was also the last great decade.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 14, 2019 5:06:49 GMT
I think they had some real dud seasons from 2000 onwards of 2010 something but before I stopped watching it (around 2015) they did seem to have improved. I think the death of Phil Hartman took a fair bit of the wind out of the sails.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 21:01:40 GMT
I watch only for Ralph Wiggum. He might be the most well-rounded character.
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