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Post by Rodney Farber on Sept 15, 2018 20:01:43 GMT
w Jesus... This shit again? Yes, dumbass, things change. Please elaborate - Has the speed of light changed in the past 6000 years?
- Today, the earth rotates to create night and day. It also orbits the sun to create the seasons. Was that any different 6000 years ago?
- Today, a water molecule consists of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. What was it 6000 years ago?
- Today, we get wine from fermented grapes. How did they do it 6000 yeast ago?
- From the Old Testament, Malachi 3:6 - For I am the LORD, I change not;
- From the New Testament, Hebrews 13:8 - Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
On a call-in talk show, Pastor Eugene, from Oregon, declared, “God has infinite fore-knowledge”. If you're not going to believe a pastor from Oregon, who can you believe? So if God knows everything that has happened and everything that will happen, and if the Bible says that Yahweh never changes, why did God change his rules? (e.g.shellfish, pork? Did Jehovah create Adam and Eve with the "infinite fore-knowledge" that he would kill 99% of mankind with the great flood? OTOH, why doesn't LORD create long-lasting life that meets God's own standards as needed? We could save time by doing away with sex, and there would be plenty of money for the Social Security System. That just doesn't seem logical. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 15, 2018 20:26:54 GMT
Wow, all of life's solutions provided by Pastor Eugene in Oregon. Now I don't have to read the Bible anymore!  |
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Post by goz on Sept 15, 2018 20:52:32 GMT
Wow, all of life's solutions provided by Pastor Eugene in Oregon. Now I don't have to read the Bible anymore! I totally agree. What point is there in YOU reading the Bible and having a differing point of view to Pastor Eugene in Oregon and in fact, any other individual? I asked you in another thread that you failed to answer ' What makes your religion right and not others? To requote the other premise by Christopher Hitchens "Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong." Christopher Hitchens" If Pastor Eugene of Oregon is wrong, as are all other faiths, as well as atheists, why are you right? Maybe, indeed you are ALL wrong. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 15, 2018 21:25:47 GMT
Wow, all of life's solutions provided by Pastor Eugene in Oregon. Now I don't have to read the Bible anymore! I totally agree. What point is there in YOU reading the Bible and having a differing point of view to Pastor Eugene in Oregon and in fact, any other individual? I asked you in another thread that you failed to answer ' What makes your religion right and not others? To requote the other premise by Christopher Hitchens "Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong." Christopher Hitchens" If Pastor Eugene of Oregon is wrong, as are all other faiths, as well as atheists, why are you right? Maybe, indeed you are ALL wrong. Hitchens was a moron. It's like saying there are no right answers to anything as long as there is a wrong answer out there. Granted, I view my reading of the Bible as accurate until proven otherwise. That's how research, study, and knowledge has always worked for thousands of years. So all one would have to do is compare what Pastor Eugene is basing his assumptions on vs. what I base mine on. The problem is you and others of you ilk haven't read enough scripture to accept that challenge. Isapop that's how you egg on btw. |
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Post by Vegas on Sept 15, 2018 22:35:52 GMT
w Jesus... This shit again? Yes, dumbass, things change. Please elaborate - Has the speed of light changed in the past 6000 years?
- Today, the earth rotates to create night and day. It also orbits the sun to create the seasons. Was that any different 6000 years ago?
- Today, a water molecule consists of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. What was it 6000 years ago?
- Today, we get wine from fermented grapes. How did they do it 6000 yeast ago?
- From the Old Testament, Malachi 3:6 - For I am the LORD, I change not;
- From the New Testament, Hebrews 13:8 - Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
On a call-in talk show, Pastor Eugene, from Oregon, declared, “God has infinite fore-knowledge”. If you're not going to believe a pastor from Oregon, who can you believe? So if God knows everything that has happened and everything that will happen, and if the Bible says that Yahweh never changes, why did God change his rules? (e.g.shellfish, pork? Did Jehovah create Adam and Eve with the "infinite fore-knowledge" that he would kill 99% of mankind with the great flood? OTOH, why doesn't LORD create long-lasting life that meets God's own standards as needed? We could save time by doing away with sex, and there would be plenty of money for the Social Security System. That just doesn't seem logical. You're a fucking idiot. THAT will never change. |
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 15, 2018 22:54:51 GMT
dears in the headlights
she cried foul as i began to prowl
knowing full well
that
it's never the things you sell
that
are the tells
in a romance
made from the swells
the rides
where we collide
in each other's charms.
where she saw alarms
i read the palms
the
leaves in the arms
of the wandering people
who
at one time cowered
under steeples
but were now set free
for
destiny is like this wondrous cup of tea
where
we can each read the leaves
and
come up with
our own prophets and ner do wells
visions of heavens
where
there never was a hell.
i stood on the mountain overlooking the cells
as the doors flew open
and you
were there too
reveling in your payless shoes
and i thought
everyone can now dance
because we started the blues
and we can
finish them too!
sjw 09/15/18 inspired at this very moment in time by one of my one hundred: merri
from the 'beauty series' of poems
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Post by goz on Sept 15, 2018 23:17:31 GMT
You are BOTH wrong since neither of you base your study knowledge or scholarship on anything at all factual and rational. I totally agree. What point is there in YOU reading the Bible and having a differing point of view to Pastor Eugene in Oregon and in fact, any other individual? I asked you in another thread that you failed to answer ' What makes your religion right and not others? To requote the other premise by Christopher Hitchens "Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong." Christopher Hitchens" If Pastor Eugene of Oregon is wrong, as are all other faiths, as well as atheists, why are you right? Maybe, indeed you are ALL wrong. Hitchens was a moron. It's like saying there are no right answers to anything as long as there is a wrong answer out there. Granted, I view my reading of the Bible as accurate until proven otherwise. That's how research, study, and knowledge has always worked for thousands of years. So all one would have to do is compare what Pastor Eugene is basing his assumptions on vs. what I base mine on. The problem is you and others of you ilk haven't read enough scripture to accept that challenge. Isapop that's how you egg on btw. Well, you WOULD say that about a respected and intelligent atheist since you are so illogical that you can't see what a truly stupid analogy that is. Right answers are based on evidence, accumulated acquired knowledge, research and study whilst wrong answers are based on opinion and interpretation. No wonder you are so misguided if this is how you base your study of anything meaningful. You start with a presumption of accuracy that is simply not there in a factual sense, and then just mindlessly build in a self fulfilling delusional way on that. That is not scholarship. That is nonsensical self delusion. If you base your premise on inaccuracy, opinion and misinterpretation you are just building a greater fallacy as you go along. I rest my case. What is the point of reading 'enough scripture' if its basis is a fallacy to begin with? You are indulging in the circular argument of believing in the Bible because it says so and the MORE I read it, the truer it becomes to me. That is illogical, unscientific, delusional unintelligent and really rather pathetic IMHO. |
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