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Post by msdemos on Sept 18, 2018 1:40:40 GMT
Which team "lost" this game, in your opinion? Packers had, if not a commanding lead, a (relatively) comfortable lead, at home, until well into the 4th quarter, where they promptly gave up 22 points, and were lucky to get to overtime. Fast-forward to the closing seconds of OT, where the Vikings had the chance to win the game with a 35 yard field goal, but blew it. Which TEAM is more to blame for this game ending up in a tie? SAVE FERRIS
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Post by Xeliou66 on Sept 18, 2018 1:42:43 GMT
The Vikings, they are the better team, they would’ve won if they had a decent kicker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 1:54:52 GMT
Packers had the game won if Corrente wasn't such a dumbass. That said, game could have gone either way at times. Vikings missed 3 FG's, Packers missed what would of been the GW FG at the end of regulation, Graham had a TD called back on a phantom holding call. I feel like GB had the game won at like 3 separate times while only feeling like Minn had it won once or twice so I say GB should have won it.
I will take from it that GB is just as good as the Vikings if not better and GB has Rodgers on one leg.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 1:57:09 GMT
in McMahon's and trumps XFL - there are no 'ties' - you fight until the death pansies
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 1:57:55 GMT
Only week 2 and we're talking about the refs negatively affecting outcomes of games. Not a good look.
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Post by sdm3 on Sept 18, 2018 1:59:12 GMT
Only week 2 and we're talking about the refs negatively affecting outcomes of games. Not a good look. Week 1 - Julio Jones non-catch.
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Post by marsexplorer on Sept 18, 2018 2:00:44 GMT
A better way to put it is that was the Vikings game to win, so in a way I guess they lost. Three missed FGs hardly ever happens. When Zim was asked today if it was an easy decision to release Carlson he said, "Did you see the game?", "Yep, pretty easy.". There is no question the Vikings need a new kicker if they are going to make a run for the Super Bowl.
On the other hand, as a Vikings fan, if you go to Lambeau and Rodgers is playing you are lucky to come out without a loss. So to me the Vikings won that game.
And to @smurfbate, there is no doubt the Vikings are the better team.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 2:00:48 GMT
Only week 2 and we're talking about the refs negatively affecting outcomes of games. Not a good look. Yup, I remember reading how this was going to be a learning situation for the ref's too with the changed rules. I knew that this shit was going to get ugly really quick as even they're trying to figure out what to throw flags at and what not to. It reminds me of the replacement refs. Just a shit show. Some of these flags they just need to own it and say "15 yards for playing football, automatic first down".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 2:20:56 GMT
A better way to put it is that was the Vikings game to win, so in a way I guess they lost. Three missed FGs hardly ever happens. When Zim was asked today if it was an easy decision to release Carlson he said, "Did you see the game?", "Yep, pretty easy.". There is no question the Vikings need a new kicker if they are going to make a run for the Super Bowl. On the other hand, as a Vikings fan, if you go to Lambeau and Rodgers is playing you are lucky to come out without a loss. So to me the Vikings won that game. And to @smurfbate , there is no doubt the Vikings are the better team. There is clearly doubt otherwise the Vikings would have clearly won that game which they didn't. GB had multiple times as I stated where they had the game won. You can argue that if the Vikings had a kicker they would of won just like I can argue that the Packers had the game won if Crosby makes his FG or the referee's weren't calling bullshit penalties that erased a Graham TD. The Packers were right there in that game with the Vikings despite the Vikings being this "Super Bowl favorite" all while Rodgers was on one leg. By no means am I going to take from that game that the Vikings are no doubt the better team. On paper you have the right to believe they are the better team. However football games aren't played on paper.
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Post by marsexplorer on Sept 18, 2018 2:24:41 GMT
The above is a normal Packers fans. All excuses when they don't win a game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 2:29:32 GMT
Ah, good talk then.
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Post by marsexplorer on Sept 18, 2018 2:48:12 GMT
It's NFL football there are bad calls both ways. That's part of the game. All fans think there are bad calls against their team. You can't blame that. The reason the Vikings didn't win that game is due to some of their own players who didn't make the plays they should have.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 2:55:32 GMT
It's NFL football there are bad calls both ways. That's part of the game. All fans think there are bad calls against their team. You can't blame that. The reason the Vikings didn't win that game is due to some of their own players who didn't make the plays they should have. Ah ok, so the excuses themselves don't matter just the form in which the excuses are made? Alright, then if we're going that route, Crosby should of made the game winning field goal in regulation that would have won the game for Green Bay. Kentrell Brice should have intercepted or at least knocked down the TD pass to Theilen but instead pulled his arms back for whatever reason. Packers probably should have made the Vikings use their last 2 time out but didn't. Adams should have held onto what would have been the put away touchdown. Do those excuses meet your standards? You can make arguments all the way to the moon on why either team should have or shouldn't have won the game. Simply my opinion being that I felt like GB had the game won more times than the Vikings did giving me my conclusion. You are free to think differently. In the end it was a tie and to say one team is no doubt better than the other based off that game is just favoritism to me.
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Post by marsexplorer on Sept 18, 2018 3:12:26 GMT
It's NFL football there are bad calls both ways. That's part of the game. All fans think there are bad calls against their team. You can't blame that. The reason the Vikings didn't win that game is due to some of their own players who didn't make the plays they should have. Ah ok, so the excuses themselves don't matter just the form in which the excuses are made? Alright, then if we're going that route, Crosby should of made the game winning field goal in regulation that would have won the game for Green Bay. Kentrell Brice should have intercepted or at least knocked down the TD pass to Theilen but instead pulled his arms back for whatever reason. Packers probably should have made the Vikings use their last 2 time out but didn't. Adams should have held onto what would have been the put away touchdown. Do those excuses meet your standards? You can make arguments all the way to the moon on why either team should have or shouldn't have won the game. Simply my opinion being that I felt like GB had the game won more times than the Vikings did giving me my conclusion. You are free to think differently. In the end it was a tie and to say one team is no doubt better than the other based off that game is just favoritism to me. Exactly. But Zeliou, who doesn't have a dog in the fight agrees, with me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 3:25:15 GMT
Ah ok, so the excuses themselves don't matter just the form in which the excuses are made? Alright, then if we're going that route, Crosby should of made the game winning field goal in regulation that would have won the game for Green Bay. Kentrell Brice should have intercepted or at least knocked down the TD pass to Theilen but instead pulled his arms back for whatever reason. Packers probably should have made the Vikings use their last 2 time out but didn't. Adams should have held onto what would have been the put away touchdown. Do those excuses meet your standards? You can make arguments all the way to the moon on why either team should have or shouldn't have won the game. Simply my opinion being that I felt like GB had the game won more times than the Vikings did giving me my conclusion. You are free to think differently. In the end it was a tie and to say one team is no doubt better than the other based off that game is just favoritism to me. Exactly. But Zeliou, who doesn't have a dog in the fight agrees, with me. Good for him?
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 18, 2018 12:14:10 GMT
Packers should have won the game. No question to me. Also, the refs have been AWFUL this years everywhere. I see it in every game.
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Post by NJtoTX on Sept 18, 2018 13:40:29 GMT
That penalty HAS to be reviewable. The ref was in a bad spot behind Matthews.
But now I'm hearing that they are including that in a training video as a GOOD example of a penalty. Idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 0:10:37 GMT
That penalty HAS to be reviewable. The ref was in a bad spot behind Matthews. But now I'm hearing that they are including that in a training video as a GOOD example of a penalty. Idiots. The NFL is so far up it's own asshole these days it's sickening.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 19, 2018 11:39:18 GMT
That penalty HAS to be reviewable. The ref was in a bad spot behind Matthews. But now I'm hearing that they are including that in a training video as a GOOD example of a penalty. Idiots. The NFL is so far up it's own asshole these days it's sickening. What?! No way! With all these great rules changes it's like Arena football only better! What used to be a game of strength and conditioning and strategy is now just a sixty-minute track meet where every QB breaks Marino's passing record that stood for twenty-five years every single game, and for some reason every single fucking game comes down to whoever has the ball last. Isn't that COOL and FUN to watch?! Plus the Patriots straight-up cheating with the help of the league for over a decade! Yay! The NFL is better than ever!!!!!1
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Post by marsexplorer on Sept 19, 2018 20:49:59 GMT
That penalty HAS to be reviewable. The ref was in a bad spot behind Matthews. But now I'm hearing that they are including that in a training video as a GOOD example of a penalty. Idiots. The NFL is so far up it's own asshole these days it's sickening. I just want you to know that I thought the call on Matthews was bullshit. Everyone with a brain know it was. That just goes to prove that the NFL has no brain. I have been complaining about that rule since day one of the preseason. I said that it would effect the outcome of games and it has. It has happened to the Vikings twice already. Thankfully they were able to overcome the call and still win those games. The Packers will most likely get that call back just like the Vikings did but still, the rule needs to be gone.
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