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Post by Vegas on Sept 19, 2018 23:06:01 GMT
I forgot the #1 answer.....
Sleeping in on Sundays
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 19, 2018 23:30:00 GMT
I forgot the #1 answer.....
Sleeping in on Sundays
LOL, in the words of George Carlin, not 'having to show up at a certain place to compare clothing'! |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 19, 2018 23:44:49 GMT
The clarity of rational judgement that has no need to drag in baggage to make a point. For example I dumped Christianity at 16 because the high-ups in the Church of England publicly came out in favour of invading Vietnam because our government had made the decision and as a Christian country that obeys the rule of law, when the government says something we have an obligation to obey as members of that community. I knew in 1964 that the Vietnam invasion was morally wrong and practically illegal, stances which later proved to be accurate to most good thinking people. I had no idea that, at the time, England was so 'Christian'. It sure isn't now. At the time of the Vietnam War, I was still wrapped in cotton batting and transported to church every other day and the news of the war was kept from me. I learned more from friends in college, and from knowing a few veterans, whose silence spoke volumes. |
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 20, 2018 0:32:49 GMT
the relativity of rationally rambling between periods of reconstruction
as harsh as it may seem
to some
the best of times
most
certainly come
between the tossing of the shark bait
commonly referred to
as chum
from those tight lipped patriarchs
posing as
fishermen of the sun.
sjw 09/19/18 inspired at this very moment in time as the portal dines upon the dinosaurs as they whine.
from the 'blasphemy series' of poems
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 20, 2018 0:39:06 GMT
The clarity of rational judgement that has no need to drag in baggage to make a point. For example I dumped Christianity at 16 because the high-ups in the Church of England publicly came out in favour of invading Vietnam because our government had made the decision and as a Christian country that obeys the rule of law, when the government says something we have an obligation to obey as members of that community. I knew in 1964 that the Vietnam invasion was morally wrong and practically illegal, stances which later proved to be accurate to most good thinking people. Lots of religious people oppose wars. In fact religion is the only opposition to war. On what basis can an atheist oppose war? Tell me. Your problem is with the Church of England, which at one point obviously failed to be very religious. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 0:47:35 GMT
The clarity of rational judgement that has no need to drag in baggage to make a point. For example I dumped Christianity at 16 because the high-ups in the Church of England publicly came out in favour of invading Vietnam because our government had made the decision and as a Christian country that obeys the rule of law, when the government says something we have an obligation to obey as members of that community. I knew in 1964 that the Vietnam invasion was morally wrong and practically illegal, stances which later proved to be accurate to most good thinking people. Lots of religious people oppose wars. In fact religion is the only opposition to war. On what basis can an atheist oppose war? Tell me. Your problem is with the Church of England, which at one point obviously failed to be very religious. Why don't you posit that question on your thread? I asked nicely for theists to stay out of this thread. You haven't. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 20, 2018 0:53:26 GMT
The clarity of rational judgement that has no need to drag in baggage to make a point. For example I dumped Christianity at 16 because the high-ups in the Church of England publicly came out in favour of invading Vietnam because our government had made the decision and as a Christian country that obeys the rule of law, when the government says something we have an obligation to obey as members of that community. I knew in 1964 that the Vietnam invasion was morally wrong and practically illegal, stances which later proved to be accurate to most good thinking people. Lots of religious people oppose wars. In fact religion is the only opposition to war. On what basis can an atheist oppose war? Tell me. Your problem is with the Church of England, which at one point obviously failed to be very religious. People get killed? 👍 |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 0:57:57 GMT
Lots of religious people oppose wars. In fact religion is the only opposition to war. On what basis can an atheist oppose war? Tell me. Your problem is with the Church of England, which at one point obviously failed to be very religious.People get killed? 👍 Good point, prog. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 20, 2018 0:58:51 GMT
Lots of religious people oppose wars. In fact religion is the only opposition to war. On what basis can an atheist oppose war? Tell me. Your problem is with the Church of England, which at one point obviously failed to be very religious. Why don't you posit that question on your thread? I asked nicely for theists to stay out of this thread. You haven't. What goz said to me on my thread ... Do you mean that thread? |
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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 20, 2018 1:02:53 GMT
I can take pride in my heritage!!!  A few Christians continue to object to the standard Welsh flag, preferring this alternative:  😖 |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 1:13:10 GMT
Why don't you posit that question on your thread? I asked nicely for theists to stay out of this thread. You haven't. What goz said to me on my thread ... Do you mean that thread? I wouldn't know, I haven't read your thread. My thread is just a happy atheist thread. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 1:17:36 GMT
I can take pride in my heritage!!! A few Christians continue to object to the standard Welsh flag, preferring this alternative: 😖 Well, if it helps, the dragon is very nicely drawn and I like the color. It is also more expressive. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 20, 2018 1:20:14 GMT
What goz said to me on my thread ... Do you mean that thread? I wouldn't know, I haven't read your thread. My thread is just a happy atheist thread. Yeah, there's a good plan, ignore me. I'll see what I can do about having more regard for your bliss. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 1:28:59 GMT
I wouldn't know, I haven't read your thread. My thread is just a happy atheist thread. Yeah, there's a good plan, ignore me. I'll see what I can do about having more regard for your bliss. Well, thank you, how thoughtful! |
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Sept 20, 2018 1:33:02 GMT
The clarity of rational judgement that has no need to drag in baggage to make a point. For example I dumped Christianity at 16 because the high-ups in the Church of England publicly came out in favour of invading Vietnam because our government had made the decision and as a Christian country that obeys the rule of law, when the government says something we have an obligation to obey as members of that community. I knew in 1964 that the Vietnam invasion was morally wrong and practically illegal, stances which later proved to be accurate to most good thinking people. I had no idea that, at the time, England was so 'Christian'. It sure isn't now. At the time of the Vietnam War, I was still wrapped in cotton batting and transported to church every other day and the news of the war was kept from me. I learned more from friends in college, and from knowing a few veterans, whose silence spoke volumes. I'm Australian. The C of E hierarchy were on TV boosting conscription and the war. Even at 16 (1964) and earlier there was much treasonous details available, first of the US involvement in Vietnam and later Australian complicity. The church did their thing at the governments behest because opposition to the invasion was building. I remember JFKs "advisor" buildup, then when he was killed, Johnson folding to the Pentagon hawks, all to the incessant screams of the Domino Theory and commies. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 2:02:53 GMT
I had no idea that, at the time, England was so 'Christian'. It sure isn't now. At the time of the Vietnam War, I was still wrapped in cotton batting and transported to church every other day and the news of the war was kept from me. I learned more from friends in college, and from knowing a few veterans, whose silence spoke volumes. I'm Australian. The C of E hierarchy were on TV boosting conscription and the war. Even at 16 (1964) and earlier there was much treasonous details available, first of the US involvement in Vietnam and later Australian complicity. The church did their thing at the governments behest because opposition to the invasion was building. I remember JFKs "advisor" buildup, then when he was killed, Johnson folding to the Pentagon hawks, all to the incessant screams of the Domino Theory and commies. I was in 5th grade when Kennedy was assassinated, and all I remember is my teacher crying when she told us what had happened. My parents shielded me from all things political until I was literally in college. They were Republican. After I learned what had happened, years later and after Reagan's term, I became a knee-jerk, bleeding heart, tax-and-spend liberal Democrat who supported social programs for those less fortunate. It still never ceases to amaze me what human beings can do to other human beings. |
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Sept 20, 2018 8:26:18 GMT
The clarity of rational judgement that has no need to drag in baggage to make a point. For example I dumped Christianity at 16 because the high-ups in the Church of England publicly came out in favour of invading Vietnam because our government had made the decision and as a Christian country that obeys the rule of law, when the government says something we have an obligation to obey as members of that community. I knew in 1964 that the Vietnam invasion was morally wrong and practically illegal, stances which later proved to be accurate to most good thinking people. Lots of religious people oppose wars. In fact religion is the only opposition to war. On what basis can an atheist oppose war? Tell me. Your problem is with the Church of England, which at one point obviously failed to be very religious. LOL Like the Crusaders. Like the US Marines who Go with God to war. On what basis can an atheist oppose war?Joke, right? I suppose in between my second job of serial killer, I can justify hating others who might want my land and want to shoot me if I don't leave like the Jews is the West Bank do to Muslims. Or just maybe, some atheists have a humanistic view of social interactions, think family and strong community are a good way to live. |
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 20, 2018 8:49:38 GMT
I like that it doesn't use unproven assumptions as facts. It's compatible with Occam's razor. The existence of any deity is unproven. Theists have had millennia to prove their existence; they were unsuccessful. Whether atheism is more logical then theism is debatable. You can start from a premise and then argue logically; but if your premise is faulty, the results of your deduction will probably be as well. Garbage in, garbage out, as we say in computer science. In this case, the premise "God does not exist" is more compatible with observed reality. In my opinion. Do you know that the originator of Occam’s razor was a Christian theologian? |
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Post by phludowin on Sept 20, 2018 10:15:54 GMT
Do you know that the originator of Occam’s razor was a Christian theologian? Yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 11:28:07 GMT
This is for non-theists, so theists, don't even try to debate your view here. Start your own thread. I like the freedom from illogic, the use of logic and reason, the clear-cut parameters of scientific thought processes. I don't have to live a lie. I don't have to come up with excuses for the horrors that my holy book and my god endorses or commits, because I don't have either one. |
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