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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 20:36:46 GMT
Today I watched an episode of the series CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Season 8 Episode 3. There is a reverend who has been trying to exorcise demons out of a teenage girl, and while he is being questioned, this exchange happens: So there is a scientific analysis of why humans believe in gods and demons. With thanks to the old IMDb for the quote. www.imdb.com/title/tt1041252/quotes/?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 20, 2018 21:27:49 GMT
What they got right, we do know a lot more lately about chemistry, biology, and how life maintains itself. It very much appears that RNA/DNA strings of considerable complexity are essential to life beginning and maintaining itself. Complex as they are, they are known to be made of a few rather simple structures in a large variety of patterns and assemblies. We ought then be able to construct scenarios that duplicate conditions immediately before in order to observe the process of the very beginning of some life or other.
What they got wrong, we cannot. Test after test, decade after decade, the shorter yet substantial RNA chains do not extend, even if the variety of them should be adequate. Although copying can and does occur because of the way the electrical and structural components fit, that does not translate to extending the chains. That appears subject to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. It doesn't require waiting millions of years. The extension of the chains needs to begin today or it will never go anywhere.
If you choose to refuse to believe me, consider the reason you do. I suggested in that thread you choose not to read that the reason is your dread fear of the unknown. You would be torn from the comfort of many of your "facts" and thrust into a world of opinions where you would have to compete on equal footing with the other opinions. That would not mean the end of facts. It would mean the disregard of the fake ones. Acknowledging an agency not found in nature won't give religious people more power, unless they can make it do their bidding, which they can't. Acknowledging an agency not found in nature might well require power of whomever to depend more on persuasion and less on coercion.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 20, 2018 21:32:01 GMT
Today I watched an episode of the series CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Season 8 Episode 3. There is a reverend who has been trying to exorcise demons out of a teenage girl, and while he is being questioned, this exchange happens: So there is a scientific analysis of why humans believe in gods and demons. With thanks to the old IMDb for the quote. www.imdb.com/title/tt1041252/quotes/?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu1. That isn't scientific analysis 2. That would mean we are genetically predisposed to belief which is something the theophobiac repeatedly shoots down for the more ridiculous notion of brainwashing and indoctrination.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 21:42:47 GMT
Today I watched an episode of the series CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Season 8 Episode 3. There is a reverend who has been trying to exorcise demons out of a teenage girl, and while he is being questioned, this exchange happens: So there is a scientific analysis of why humans believe in gods and demons. With thanks to the old IMDb for the quote. www.imdb.com/title/tt1041252/quotes/?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu1. That isn't scientific analysis 2. That would mean we are genetically predisposed to belief which is something the theophobiac repeatedly shoots down for the more ridiculous notion of brainwashing and indoctrination. Brainwashing and indoctrination can strengthen our genetic predisposition, they are not mutually exclusive.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Sept 20, 2018 21:43:39 GMT
I prefer the Obi-Wan quote:
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 21:49:26 GMT
I prefer the Obi-Wan quote: Obi-Wan was a wise man.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2018 21:56:04 GMT
Actually this suggests, not 'survival of the fittest', but instead, 'survival of the most fearful'.
An interesting conundrum...
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