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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 21, 2018 12:57:15 GMT
How is that sexist? WW in the comics is depicted with big boobs ![](https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/posters/dc-comics-wonder-woman_a-G-14345539-0.jpg) Why would it be deemed sexist to want a live action portrayal close to the source material as possible? The same people boycotting/criticising the casting of Alicia Vikander for not having big boobs in her recent Lara Croft Tomb Raider film got the same accusations of sexism. ![](https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5aa945383be59f74088b4619-750-563.jpg) ![](https://thejunctionuk.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/lara-croft-tomb-raider.jpg?w=448&h=280) The reaction to the casting was sexist as hell because all those assholes cared about was the size of their breast. Because to them that's the only aspect of the character they care about. There's more to Diana and Lara then their fucking boob size. There might be a bit of a double standard, but rejecting an actress purely bc of boob size is a sexist argument bc it just focuses on secondary sexual features. If they rejected her because of lack of muscles/fittness it would be a different story bc this can go both ways, and is not sex-specific.
Apart from this, the athenticity argument might not be valid, as the recent games re-imagined Lara with reduced breast size. I am sure there are comic versions of WW that resemble Gal too.
That being said, the OP sexism claim is just a deflection bc critisizing the lack of facial expression is not inherenly sexist.
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Post by charzhino on Sept 21, 2018 12:58:23 GMT
If an ugly chick got cast as Wonder Woman would you be called sexist for hating on that because you are judging a woman over her looks rather than her acting ability?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 21, 2018 13:02:39 GMT
If an ugly chick got cast as Wonder Woman would you be called sexist for hating on that because you are judging a woman over her looks rather than her acting ability? according to my definition above: NO, not sexist (nor misogynistic), just asshole-y and superficial.
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Post by charzhino on Sept 21, 2018 13:17:56 GMT
If an ugly chick got cast as Wonder Woman would you be called sexist for hating on that because you are judging a woman over her looks rather than her acting ability? according to my definition above: NO, not sexist (nor misogynistic), just asshole-y and superficial. Its dependant on a individual basis yes. But i think a lot of people would class that as sexist. The whole idea of judging a woman on exterior superficial assets rather than actual ability to do a particular job.
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Post by sostie on Sept 21, 2018 13:22:13 GMT
So where exactly in your link does it say the comments were from MCU fans?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 21, 2018 13:27:56 GMT
according to my definition above: NO, not sexist (nor misogynistic), just asshole-y and superficial. Its dependant on a individual basis yes. But i think a lot of people would class that as sexist. The whole idea of judging a woman on exterior superficial assets rather than actual ability to do a particular job. yes, and they would be as right as they are wrong with it, language is not a exact (natural) science unless defined under the law. But still, reasonable people will agree that the OP-sexism-claim is proposterous and deflective.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 21, 2018 13:37:51 GMT
Sounds like the MCU has its very own Kelly Marie Tran. Now critics will be shamed into a high RT score lest they appear to be evil sexists! nope, it rather reminds me of the Ma-Rey Sue situation with Daisy Ridley: Where they wrote a total fanfic charatcer, a genuin god-mode Mary Sue, but tried to deflect it by calling the critics sexists.
Poor D Ridley was too uneducated (and neglegted to take the 5 minutes to research it on her phone) to understand what it is about, and said this:
![](https://s26.postimg.cc/x67gkeemx/popcorn.gif) ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/tek3suwt5/laugh.gif)
Check the silly faces she makes at the proposterous assertion at 00:36. It's hillarious.
GIVE this WOMAN a PR COACH (or at least a writing theory teacher)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 21, 2018 13:43:19 GMT
How is that sexist? WW in the comics is depicted with big boobs ![](https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/posters/dc-comics-wonder-woman_a-G-14345539-0.jpg) Why would it be deemed sexist to want a live action portrayal close to the source material as possible? The same people boycotting/criticising the casting of Alicia Vikander for not having big boobs in her recent Lara Croft Tomb Raider film got the same accusations of sexism. ![](https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5aa945383be59f74088b4619-750-563.jpg) ![](https://thejunctionuk.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/lara-croft-tomb-raider.jpg?w=448&h=280) The reaction to the casting was sexist as hell because all those assholes cared about was the size of their breast. Because to them that's the only aspect of the character they care about. There's more to Diana and Lara then their fucking boob size. To be fair, that's not exactly sexism. It's more about sexual objectification and people just being shallow. If you need to label it with an 'ism' then it would be lookism.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 21, 2018 14:06:31 GMT
The people who whine about her not smiling enough are just dumb as fuck. Male actors do not get this kind of stupid scrutiny--fact.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 21, 2018 14:10:52 GMT
The people who whine about her not smiling enough are just dumb as fuck. Male actors do not get this kind of stupid scrutiny--fact. Not true. People criticized Cavill's Superman for not smiling enough.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 21, 2018 14:18:56 GMT
The people who whine about her not smiling enough are just dumb as fuck. Male actors do not get this kind of stupid scrutiny--fact. greetings fausty, always the charmer.
Impressive straw man, especually your manly "fact" drives it home. But pray tell, what about the people who claim that her acting in the trailer was not too convicing, especially given the one-note expression of indifference?
Are those "dumb as fuck" too? And don't male actors get this kind of criticism too?
Most humans (and apes) manage to have more than one or two expressions, even without getting paid for it. What says you?
![](https://img3.stockfresh.com/files/r/redpixel/m/72/1599191_stock-photo-useful-facial-expressions-actor-faces.jpg)
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 21, 2018 14:25:18 GMT
The people who whine about her not smiling enough are just dumb as fuck. Male actors do not get this kind of stupid scrutiny--fact. Not true. People criticized Cavill's Superman for not smiling enough. The basis of that complaint was that Superman, as a character, was "supposed" to be a cheerful boy scout and the darker, morose tone of Snyder's version didn't play to those expectations. And no one really blamed Cavill for this, as it was clearly the way the director wanted the character played. There is no such parallel in this case. It's all about expectations that women are supposed to be likable.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 21, 2018 14:28:22 GMT
But pray tell, what about the people who claim that her acting in the trailer was not too convicing, especially given the one-note expression of indifference?
Irrelevant. Not the subject of the OP.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 21, 2018 14:52:31 GMT
She's pretty good with photoshop. Hee hee hee...
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Post by summers8 on Sept 21, 2018 15:21:02 GMT
poor Disney. they refuse to accept responsibility and continue to play the racist and sexist card.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 21, 2018 15:32:39 GMT
Who here thought she didn't smile enough in the trailer? And I don't mean now, in retrospect. I mean originally, when you first saw the trailer.
When I saw the trailer that wasn't a thought I had, and I certainly didn't post anything like that, so she's not talking about me. Or you.
Unless you posted somewhere that she should smile more, she wasn't responding to YOU.
So chill.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 21, 2018 15:43:28 GMT
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 21, 2018 15:54:05 GMT
Studios should consider all actors’ activity on social media prior to casting. And I don’t mean ‘controversial’ tweets. I mean their propensity towards vocal SJWing and reflexive counter-defending against criticism. Basically, the studios should look for people who shut TF up.
I’d go even further and suggest that indulging in frequent social media activity should count against an actor. And I predict that it will be. Social media is a young medium and I think it’s use will evolve. I think it will be frowned upon because studios may like an actor’s skill but not trust their judgement at interacting with the audience. Captain Marvel has just released its first trailer and Brie Larson is already defending her role against a few comments on YouTube? She should keep quiet or else she could turn some of the audience away. Contrary to what these SJW actors think, virtue signalling does not necessarily increase the box office.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 21, 2018 16:00:06 GMT
Not true. People criticized Cavill's Superman for not smiling enough. The basis of that complaint was that Superman, as a character, was "supposed" to be a cheerful boy scout and the darker, morose tone of Snyder's version didn't play to those expectations. And no one really blamed Cavill for this, as it was clearly the way the director wanted the character played. There is no such parallel in this case. It's all about expectations that women are supposed to be likable. And are you saying that people are attacking Brie Larson for not smiling outside of her playing the Captain Marvel role? If this is your claim then please post a link where people are attacking Brie Larson personally for not smiling, instead of doing it in the scope of the trailer.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 21, 2018 16:06:04 GMT
The basis of that complaint was that Superman, as a character, was "supposed" to be a cheerful boy scout and the darker, morose tone of Snyder's version didn't play to those expectations. And no one really blamed Cavill for this, as it was clearly the way the director wanted the character played. There is no such parallel in this case. It's all about expectations that women are supposed to be likable. And are you saying that people are attacking Brie Larson specifically for not smiling as part of her being Brie Larson and not as part of her playing the Captain Marvel role in the trailer? If this is your claim, please provide a link where people are criticizing her for this. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to listen to men harassing women on the bus or walking by on the street for not smiling. This is just another example of the phenomenon, which is part of male sexist culture. It's a thing and has been for a very long time.
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