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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 24, 2018 16:12:02 GMT
Just curious because apparently there's some people who are against the new joker because it's not comic accurate.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 24, 2018 17:06:59 GMT
I would rather die than be subjected to any new ideas that oppose the thousands of inconsistencies and contradictions already present in comics, which have all already been written and illustrated and will never, ever be updated or altered ever again. I want the same stories I know and nothing surprising, innovative, or newly designed ruining my experience. *spits*
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 24, 2018 17:12:41 GMT
I would rather die than be subjected to any new ideas that oppose the thousands of inconsistencies and contradictions already present in comics, which have all already been written and illustrated and will never, ever be updated or altered ever again. I want the same stories I know and nothing surprising, innovative, or newly designed ruining my experience. *spits* Fair enough!
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 24, 2018 17:16:00 GMT
Ideally, I think cbm characters should be at least 50% accurate with their comic counterparts and no more than 80% accurate. If you can't even get half the character right then you really shouldn't bother adapting it to screen. Just create a new character. On the other hand, it's ridiculous to think a character can be transferred to the screen 100% accurate, as there will need to adjustments made to adapt it properly to the screen, as some things in comics just won't make sense in movies (like some of the crazier costumes for example).
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 24, 2018 17:18:59 GMT
I would rather die than be subjected to any new ideas that oppose the thousands of inconsistencies and contradictions already present in comics, which have all already been written and illustrated and will never, ever be updated or altered ever again. I want the same stories I know and nothing surprising, innovative, or newly designed ruining my experience. *spits* Fair enough! Honestly, getting the core of characters, settings, and events is ideal, with tweaks, modernizations, the ability to craft an interesting new take on a basic existing story idea that while modified, fits in with and makes cinematic canonical sense with the story being presented in the movie-verse.
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Post by hobowar on Sept 24, 2018 18:30:00 GMT
As long as they capture the spirit of the characters, it's probably best to change everything else. Not everything translates well to the big screen.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 24, 2018 18:46:20 GMT
As long as they capture the spirit of the characters, it's probably best to change everything else. Not everything translates well to the big screen. I have to disagree with this. The appearance and powerset of the character should still resemble their comic counterpart to a degree. Not necessary to be exact but let's not pretend these are not important as well.
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Post by charzhino on Sept 24, 2018 20:36:13 GMT
As long as they capture the spirit of the characters, it's probably best to change everything else. Not everything translates well to the big screen. They didnt keep Ultrons spirit. They turned him into a retarded robotic clown.
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Post by thenewnexus on Sept 24, 2018 21:44:07 GMT
Most stuff does not seem accurate in cbms in general like the tone. If they can make something good for it. Speaking of Joker I m excited for it just like Venom
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Post by hobowar on Sept 24, 2018 23:44:38 GMT
As long as they capture the spirit of the characters, it's probably best to change everything else. Not everything translates well to the big screen. They didnt keep Ultrons spirit. They turned him into a retarded robotic clown. Ultron has always had a sense of humor when he's not being written by retards. I'm sorry you didn't get your generic dalek.
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 25, 2018 2:51:42 GMT
If the comic aspect was very good, and the cinematic version is far worse, then yes it makes a huge difference.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 25, 2018 3:10:37 GMT
Meh. No CBM will match or try to match the page. Unless it's a specific story like Watchmen, where I understood the cinematic creative differences.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 25, 2018 4:39:21 GMT
I wouldn't mind at all if they just kept the main character the same, but them in an all new, or real world setting.
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Post by scabab on Sept 25, 2018 6:18:36 GMT
Not too much, I like the appearances to be as accurate as possible but the storylines can change for me.
Like Civil War movie wasn't anything like the Civil War comic but I'm perfectly fine with it.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 25, 2018 6:18:47 GMT
Semi-important. Depends on what is kept or changed. For instance, I actually prefer the organic webslinging over mechanical. It makes sense to tie it into his existing powers instead of adding on another element, especially that high tech for a high school student to create himself.
On the other hand, I hate psychotic murderer Batman. His conflict over killing or sparing his enemies, especially the Joker, is one of his most interesting characteristics.
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Post by sostie on Sept 25, 2018 10:13:33 GMT
With decades of material and numerous universes/reboots/versions of characters I don't expect total accuracy - if we did Superman would be leaping instead of flying, Wonder Woman would become a supplicant woman pining over boyfriends and fat shamer, and Captain America would have a much longer stint in WWII.
Had no real major problems with aspects that have been changed - Civil War for instance would be impossible to film; making the Ancient One Celtic made sense, and to a degree so did the choice to make The Mandarin an imposter; Wolverine being at least a foot taller in the films was not a problem because of a great casting choice. Though Deadpool in Wolverine was a change too far.
As long as the essence of the chatacter, or storyline(s) remain intact, it's fine with me. Of course it does also depend on execution - X-Men Last Stand for instance wasn't exactly a great treatment of the Dark Phoenix storyline.
What does bother me a little is people who will criticise a film for being different to it's source, when really they've never read the "source" or actually care.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 25, 2018 11:02:27 GMT
With decades of material and numerous universes/reboots/versions of characters I don't expect total accuracy - if we did Superman would be leaping instead of flying, Wonder Woman would become a supplicant woman pining over boyfriends and fat shamer, and Captain America would have a much longer stint in WWII. Had no real major problems with aspects that have been changed - Civil War for instance would be impossible to film; making the Ancient One Celtic made sense, and to a degree so did the choice to make The Mandarin an imposter; Wolverine being at least a foot taller in the films was not a problem because of a great casting choice. Though Deadpool in Wolverine was a change too far. As long as the essence of the chatacter, or storyline(s) remain intact, it's fine with me. Of course it does also depend on execution - X-Men Last Stand for instance wasn't exactly a great treatment of the Dark Phoenix storyline. What does bother me a little is people who will criticise a film for being different to it's source, when really they've never read the "source" or actually care. Superman was leaping before he flew. Wonder Woman was... Pine'ing over a boyfriend. And Captain America had a
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 25, 2018 11:12:37 GMT
I'm okay with a summation of the lives of the characters for the story. You can't do everything the characters did in the comics, so editing things out is fair. Or replacing because you don't have access to a character. Things like not having Ms. Marvel for Rogue in X-men, but using the Age of Apocalypse version as a replacement. Or using Ultron as a replacement for Magneto for the twins. But if you have access to a character or can do that story for a character, then just use/do it. I mean, in a perfect world, the twins would have started out doing the same story as in Age of Ultron, but in an X-men movie. Then moved on to the Avengers movies.
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Post by sostie on Sept 25, 2018 11:16:59 GMT
I mean, in a perfect world, the twins would have started out doing the same story as in Age of Ultron, but in an X-men movie. Then moved on to the Avengers movies. And Wolverine would have battled Hulk before moving onto the X-Men
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 25, 2018 11:32:02 GMT
I mean, in a perfect world, the twins would have started out doing the same story as in Age of Ultron, but in an X-men movie. Then moved on to the Avengers movies. And Wolverine would have battled Hulk before moving onto the X-Men I can see it now, Logan and Blonsky working together to take down Hulk at the college in The Incredible Hulk.
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