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Post by gogoschka1 on Mar 25, 2017 9:11:05 GMT
Thanks to the Horn of Eld (and Akiva Goldsman's genius) the film discards most of the boring storyline and redundant characters from the Dark Tower and puts much more emphasis on the characters and story arc that REALLY matter. I'm simply grateful we'll get a Dark Tower adaptation which will be so wonderfully different from what book readers imagined (it's so nice when you get surprised!).And with each new casting announcement I felt like jubilating: Abbey Lee plays Tirana. God I'm so excited! Genius writer Akiva Goldsman has realized how important Tirana is. Tirana practically IS The Dark Tower - I hope she will be in every scene (which is now possible because: THE HORN OF ELD). Jackie Earle Haley plays the third most important character (after Roland and the Man in Black): Richard Sayre! The character is actually important enough to warrant his own movie (maybe in a future spin-off? THE HORN OF ELD could make it possible).And then, after months of feverish anticipation, it has been announced that Fran Kranz will play Pimli, another key character and fan favorite whose role was thankfully enhanced in Goldsman's fantastic screenplay.But it doesn't end there; few knew but millions speculated who would play one of the most pivotal roles in the The Dark Tower multiverse: Arra. Now it has finally been revealed that none other than Claudia Kim will portray this wonderfully compelling character. And, at the very last, fan favorites Dr Hotchkiss and Timmy also have been cast. Akiva Goldsman really is a mastermind of cinema: it's almost as if he was able to see into King's mind and extract the writer's true vision for the Dark Tower (which King sadly failed to put on the page). Using the HORN OF ELD to achieve this was a master stroke.And there's more changes for the better: in the books, the Man in Black is a looming presence, but he only very rarely physically appears. But instead of a weird (and boooooring) mythical, mysterious creature, isn't it much nicer to actually have him as a physical antagonist that shows up all the time and doesn't force you to use your imagination? And now the Man in Black even has a side-kick - isn't that great? Man, that Horn sure changed everything for the better, and it's so nice to see that it was all it took to make the fans come around and embrace Akiva's vision. I can hardly wait: this adaptation is already a success in any reader's book (so much so they don't even really need to film it anymore ).
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Post by Times Up on Apr 2, 2017 17:59:56 GMT
Akiva is hit and miss really. What makes you so sure he has nailed it? Did you read the screen play?
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Post by gogoschka1 on Apr 2, 2017 20:36:58 GMT
Akiva is hit and miss really. What makes you so sure he has nailed it? Did you read the screen play? What makes you so sure I believe he's nailed it?
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Post by Times Up on Apr 2, 2017 20:38:43 GMT
I see. I skimmed it and missed the sarcasm. Good show.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 20:40:58 GMT
Thanks to the Horn of Eld (and Akiva Goldsman's genius) the film discards most of the boring storyline and redundant characters from the Dark Tower and puts much more emphasis on the characters and story arc that REALLY matter. I'm simply grateful we'll get a Dark Tower adaptation which will be so wonderfully different from what book readers imagined (it's so nice when you get surprised!).And with each new casting announcement I felt like jubilating: Abbey Lee plays Tirana. God I'm so excited! Genius writer Akiva Goldsman has realized how important Tirana is. Tirana practically IS The Dark Tower - I hope she will be in every scene (which is now possible because: THE HORN OF ELD). Jackie Earle Haley plays the third most important character (after Roland and the Man in Black): Richard Sayre! The character is actually important enough to warrant his own movie (maybe in a future spin-off? THE HORN OF ELD could make it possible).And then, after months of feverish anticipation, it has been announced that Fran Kranz will play Pimli, another key character and fan favorite whose role was thankfully enhanced in Goldsman's fantastic screenplay.But it doesn't end there; few knew but millions speculated who would play one of the most pivotal roles in the The Dark Tower multiverse: Arra. Now it has finally been revealed that none other than Claudia Kim will portray this wonderfully compelling character. And, at the very last, fan favorites Dr Hotchkiss and Timmy also have been cast. Akiva Goldsman really is a mastermind of cinema: it's almost as if he was able to see into King's mind and extract the writer's true vision for the Dark Tower (which King sadly failed to put on the page). Using the HORN OF ELD to achieve this was a master stroke.And there's more changes for the better: in the books, the Man in Black is a looming presence, but he only very rarely physically appears. But instead of a weird (and boooooring) mythical, mysterious creature, isn't it much nicer to actually have him as a physical antagonist that shows up all the time and doesn't force you to use your imagination? And now the Man in Black even has a side-kick - isn't that great? Man, that Horn sure changed everything for the better, and it's so nice to see that it was all it took to make the fans come around and embrace Akiva's vision. I can hardly wait: this adaptation is already a success in any reader's book (so much so they don't even really need to film it anymore ). So, are you saying this movie starts where book 7 left off? If so, I'm a fan already. I would love to see "Wizard and Glass" come to screen, though. I'd cast Lennon Stella as Susan Delgado.
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Post by gogoschka1 on Apr 2, 2017 21:07:16 GMT
I see. I skimmed it and missed the sarcasm. Good show. I love those books (well, at least the first 4). I dread everything about this adaptation (except the casting - although I still believe Viggo Mortensen and Ed Harris would have been both perfect for the role). So there you go...
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Post by hi224 on Apr 2, 2017 21:13:44 GMT
I honestly can see it possibly failing sadly.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 2, 2017 21:14:46 GMT
I see. I skimmed it and missed the sarcasm. Good show. I love those books (well, at least the first 4). I dread everything about this adaptation (except the casting - although I still believe Viggo Mortensen and Ed Harris would have been both perfect for the role). So there you go... Nice suggestions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 22:21:16 GMT
I see. I skimmed it and missed the sarcasm. Good show. I love those books (well, at least the first 4). I dread everything about this adaptation (except the casting - although I still believe Viggo Mortensen and Ed Harris would have been both perfect for the role). So there you go... I agree, and that's why I think I am more on-board for it being a continuation story of what happened after book 7. That gives us endless possibilities for Roland and Mid-World without messing with the original work.
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Post by gogoschka1 on Apr 3, 2017 5:04:46 GMT
I honestly can see it possibly failing sadly. I don't want it to fail: I want it to be good and successful in the hope for more good, high-profile King adaptations. Nothing would make me happier than to see a big screen adaptation of The Stand, and the Dark Tower failing would probably have an impact on that film having a chance as well. Having said that, I can't for the life of me understand the approach Goldsman and Howard took on this series, and I can't understand why King didn't want to give the rights do Darabont, who wanted to make a faithful adaptation.
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Post by gogoschka1 on Apr 3, 2017 5:32:52 GMT
I love those books (well, at least the first 4). I dread everything about this adaptation (except the casting - although I still believe Viggo Mortensen and Ed Harris would have been both perfect for the role). So there you go... I agree, and that's why I think I am more on-board for it being a continuation story of what happened after book 7. That gives us endless possibilities for Roland and Mid-World without messing with the original work. Well, the way I see it, they ARE messing with the material, and they are messing with it in a big way - but they found a nice ploy with the introduction of The Horn to justify Akiva Goldsman's vision and quiet down the fans. Why exactly should I be happy about that Horn if it's an excuse not to include most of the things I liked about the books but instead invent new characters and focus heavily on the aspects (from the last three books) I liked the least? No film is exactly like the book, nor should it be in this case - but is it really so unreasonable to ask for the same amount of faithfulness as we got in The Green Mile, The Mist, Stand by Me, Misery, The Shawshank Redemption, Carrie, The Dead Zone, Pet Semetary or Dolores Claiborne (you know: the good King adaptations)? Is it wrong to approach an adaptation the way Peter Jackson did with Lord of the Rings or David Benioff and D.B. Weiss did with A Song of Ice and Fire? There's enough great stuff in The Dark Tower to make a great film without having to add characters like Tirana, Timmy, Dr Hotchkiss and Arra (and god knows who else) and radically altering the storyline. Also, I do admit I'm not a fan of the last 3 books; so I admit I would like to see more emphasis put on the first 4 which this adaptation obviously doesn't do. But if it turns out good, I'm happy to swallow my words and I'll be the first in line to buy multible tickets.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 3, 2017 5:49:39 GMT
I honestly can see it possibly failing sadly. I don't want it to fail: I want it to be good and successful in the hope for more good, high-profile King adaptations. Nothing would make me happier than to see a big screen adaptation of The Stand, and the Dark Tower failing would probably have an impact on that film having a chance as well. Having said that, I can't for the life of me understand the approach Goldsman and Howard took on this series, and I can't understand why King didn't want to give the rights do Darabont, who wanted to make a faithful adaptation. I am just saying, such a long development may not bode well at all.
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Post by hardball on Apr 3, 2017 5:56:57 GMT
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Post by gogoschka1 on Apr 3, 2017 6:11:58 GMT
I don't want it to fail: I want it to be good and successful in the hope for more good, high-profile King adaptations. Nothing would make me happier than to see a big screen adaptation of The Stand, and the Dark Tower failing would probably have an impact on that film having a chance as well. Having said that, I can't for the life of me understand the approach Goldsman and Howard took on this series, and I can't understand why King didn't want to give the rights do Darabont, who wanted to make a faithful adaptation. I am just saying, such a long development may not bode well at all. Oh I agree very much with you: and the only way this WON'T fail is if it gets stellar reviews.
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Post by SinisterCreep on Apr 3, 2017 6:12:37 GMT
I've never read the books but from what i hear they've change a lot of it ...especially the gunslinger. sounds ridiculous.
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Post by gogoschka1 on Aug 3, 2017 6:33:39 GMT
Thanks to the Horn of Eld (and Akiva Goldsman's genius) the film discards most of the boring storyline and redundant characters from the Dark Tower and puts much more emphasis on the characters and story arc that REALLY matter. I'm simply grateful we'll get a Dark Tower adaptation which will be so wonderfully different from what book readers imagined (it's so nice when you get surprised!).And with each new casting announcement I felt like jubilating: Abbey Lee plays Tirana. God I'm so excited! Genius writer Akiva Goldsman has realized how important Tirana is. Tirana practically IS The Dark Tower - I hope she will be in every scene (which is now possible because: THE HORN OF ELD). Jackie Earle Haley plays the third most important character (after Roland and the Man in Black): Richard Sayre! The character is actually important enough to warrant his own movie (maybe in a future spin-off? THE HORN OF ELD could make it possible).And then, after months of feverish anticipation, it has been announced that Fran Kranz will play Pimli, another key character and fan favorite whose role was thankfully enhanced in Goldsman's fantastic screenplay.But it doesn't end there; few knew but millions speculated who would play one of the most pivotal roles in the The Dark Tower multiverse: Arra. Now it has finally been revealed that none other than Claudia Kim will portray this wonderfully compelling character. And, at the very last, fan favorites Dr Hotchkiss and Timmy also have been cast. Akiva Goldsman really is a mastermind of cinema: it's almost as if he was able to see into King's mind and extract the writer's true vision for the Dark Tower (which King sadly failed to put on the page). Using the HORN OF ELD to achieve this was a master stroke.And there's more changes for the better: in the books, the Man in Black is a looming presence, but he only very rarely physically appears. But instead of a weird (and boooooring) mythical, mysterious creature, isn't it much nicer to actually have him as a physical antagonist that shows up all the time and doesn't force you to use your imagination? And now the Man in Black even has a side-kick - isn't that great? Man, that Horn sure changed everything for the better, and it's so nice to see that it was all it took to make the fans come around and embrace Akiva's vision. I can hardly wait: this adaptation is already a success in any reader's book (so much so they don't even really need to film it anymore ). Sigh... How I hate to be right sometimes...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 9:46:07 GMT
I like how you said there will be FILMS, OP!!!!!
This will be a one off affair
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Post by politicidal on Aug 3, 2017 17:10:53 GMT
It's just weird they're going through the trouble of making a feature length movie when there is already a television series in development as well.
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Post by gogoschka1 on Aug 3, 2017 18:17:18 GMT
It's just weird they're going through the trouble of making a feature length movie when there is already a television series in development as well. To be honest: pretty much everything about their approach to this seems ill conceived or downright weird. They left out the most compelling and popular characters (Eddie, Susannah, Oy, Blaine, Gasher and the Tick-Tock man and so many more) and instead re-wrote nearly everything and added characters which are hardly present - or even non-existent - in the books. Where's the logic in that? And then King said he was TOTALLY on board with the PG-13 vision for the film but at the same time he mentions how he sincerly wishes the next one would b R (?).
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Post by gogoschka1 on Aug 3, 2017 18:19:41 GMT
I like how you said there will be FILMS, OP!!!!! This will be a one off affairUnless the people involved in this whole endeavour change and a new - talented - team of filmmakers starts from scratch, I sure hope it will be a one off.
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