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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 2, 2018 20:41:25 GMT
I was checking who were the favourites for the Nobel Prize this year and found this: Read the rest at: |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 1:46:33 GMT
Boo!
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Post by cooly44 on Oct 3, 2018 16:27:29 GMT
The Nobel academy has been a bit of a joke for some time now.
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Post by amyghost on Oct 3, 2018 18:18:17 GMT
Gee, after giving it to Alice Munro, I'm guessing they decided to retire it since no other author could match her grandeur (sarcasm).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 1:58:42 GMT
If they can give it to Dylan for music lyrics, they can give it to Trump for his tweets.
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Post by mmexis on Oct 4, 2018 2:04:24 GMT
It's bad enough those are going to be in a presidential library. Along with all the taped together documents that he ripped up.
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Post by thornberry on Oct 5, 2018 0:19:53 GMT
Gee, after giving it to Alice Munro, I'm guessing they decided to retire it since no other author could match her grandeur (sarcasm). I think Munro is a fine writer, a cut above. Can you name someone who writes about similar themes who is better? |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 5, 2018 9:27:37 GMT
Gee, after giving it to Alice Munro, I'm guessing they decided to retire it since no other author could match her grandeur (sarcasm). I think Munro is a fine writer, a cut above. Can you name someone who writes about similar themes who is better? Munro, for me, is as dull as dishwater, and her themes are a major component of the dullness. I find nothing in her prose that warrants giving it that sort of accolade. Are only writers who write on 'similar themes' eligible for the Nobel? |
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Post by thornberry on Oct 5, 2018 16:05:05 GMT
I think Munro is a fine writer, a cut above. Can you name someone who writes about similar themes who is better? Munro, for me, is as dull as dishwater, and her themes are a major component of the dullness. I find nothing in her prose that warrants giving it that sort of accolade. Are only writers who write on 'similar themes' eligible for the Nobel? "Are only writers who write on 'similar themes' eligible for the Nobel?" No, where did I imply that? Ha ha. What a reach. I was just asking if you knew anyone who writes similar themes who is better than Munro, because few equal her. Most who try are preachy and obvious, her writing is fine and subtle. If there is someone comparable, I would want to read that author. Those themes would concern the Lives of Women and Girls in western society. But if her themes don't interest you, then I'm asking the wrong person. |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 5, 2018 17:55:20 GMT
Munro, for me, is as dull as dishwater, and her themes are a major component of the dullness. I find nothing in her prose that warrants giving it that sort of accolade. Are only writers who write on 'similar themes' eligible for the Nobel? "Are only writers who write on 'similar themes' eligible for the Nobel?" No, where did I imply that? Ha ha. What a reach. I was just asking if you knew anyone who writes similar themes who is better than Munro, because few equal her. Most who try are preachy and obvious, her writing is fine and subtle. If there is someone comparable, I would want to read that author. Those themes would concern the Lives of Women and Girls in western society. But if her themes don't interest you, then I'm asking the wrong person. I'm afraid they don't. Sorry if I came across as short, but I can't tell a lie--her characters and situations simply strike me as repetitive and not particularly true to life. She clearly fascinates many readers and critics a good bit, but I confess to being utterly immune to the lady's literary charms. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 5, 2018 18:10:37 GMT
If they can give it to Dylan for music lyrics, they can give it to Trump for his tweets. You joke, but give it a decade or three and I am sure some blogger will win the Nobel prize for literature |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 18:54:05 GMT
Gee, after giving it to Alice Munro, I'm guessing they decided to retire it since no other author could match her grandeur (sarcasm). Alice Munro is a master of the short story form. She often doesn't write with the typical pacing of many short story writers, but her conclusions indicate that she has been mindful of the structure of short fiction throughout the story. I can't imagine or recall ever reading one of her stories and not being moved. Each of her stories is a mini masterpiece. She was very deserving of the the award. |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 15, 2018 20:48:35 GMT
Gee, after giving it to Alice Munro, I'm guessing they decided to retire it since no other author could match her grandeur (sarcasm). Alice Munro is a master of the short story form. She often doesn't write with the typical pacing of many short story writers, but her conclusions indicate that she has been mindful of the structure of short fiction throughout the story. I can't imagine or recall ever reading one of her stories and not being moved. Each of her stories is a mini masterpiece. She was very deserving of the the award. It's a matter of taste, as so much is. I find a term like 'master of the short story form' to be nebulous enough as to be nearly meaningless beyond the simple fact that some writers are better at concise storytelling formats than others (Saki was brilliant at this form, Henry James was not so much, for example), but this fact alone doesn't make for content I find worth reading; for me, Munro's plots come across as turgid soap opera, with uninvolving characters, and no particular insights about life that haven't been far better made by other authors (including Chekov, with whom she's often favorably, and to me, mystifyingly, compared). I just don't find anything about her corpus of work that warrants the prize any more so than a number of other writers who currently work in the short fiction field, but of course others are certainly free to disagree with me on that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 21:03:09 GMT
Alice Munro is a master of the short story form. She often doesn't write with the typical pacing of many short story writers, but her conclusions indicate that she has been mindful of the structure of short fiction throughout the story. I can't imagine or recall ever reading one of her stories and not being moved. Each of her stories is a mini masterpiece. She was very deserving of the the award. It's a matter of taste, as so much is. I find a term like 'master of the short story form' to be nebulous enough as to be nearly meaningless beyond the simple fact that some writers are better at concise storytelling formats than others (Saki was brilliant at this form, Henry James was not so much, for example), but this fact alone doesn't make for content I find worth reading; for me, Munro's plots come across as turgid soap opera, with uninvolving characters, and no particular insights about life that haven't been far better made by other authors (including Chekov, with whom she's often favorably, and to me, mystifyingly, compared). I just don't find anything about her corpus of work that warrants the prize any more so than a number of other writers who currently work in the short fiction field, but of course others are certainly free to disagree with me on that. I'm fans of all of those you mention, but Munro's large and wondrous body of work put her into a class of her own. There are many, too many to mention, who are not masters of their craft. Literary journals are packed stories written by people who don't understand the short fiction form. Munro not only understands it, but she's an innovator while staying true to every rule. "Master" is a term that is wholly appropriate in her case. |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 15, 2018 21:05:49 GMT
It's a matter of taste, as so much is. I find a term like 'master of the short story form' to be nebulous enough as to be nearly meaningless beyond the simple fact that some writers are better at concise storytelling formats than others (Saki was brilliant at this form, Henry James was not so much, for example), but this fact alone doesn't make for content I find worth reading; for me, Munro's plots come across as turgid soap opera, with uninvolving characters, and no particular insights about life that haven't been far better made by other authors (including Chekov, with whom she's often favorably, and to me, mystifyingly, compared). I just don't find anything about her corpus of work that warrants the prize any more so than a number of other writers who currently work in the short fiction field, but of course others are certainly free to disagree with me on that. I'm fans of all of those you mention, but Munro's large and wondrous body of work put her into a class of her own. There are many, too many to mention, who are not masters of their craft. Literary journals are packed stories written by people who don't understand the short fiction form. Munro not only understands it, but she's an innovator while staying true to every rule. "Master" is a term that is wholly appropriate in her case. I guess we'll have to amicably agree to disagree on that one. |
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Post by bravomailer on Oct 15, 2018 22:31:11 GMT
They should suspend the award, not because of scandal, but because with a few exceptions they've been honoring underserving people for many years now.
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