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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 22:40:34 GMT
What do people want/expect? I watched that Trailer before I read comments, before I watched reaction videos, before I came on here. I loved it. That shot where they show the League shoulder to shoulder, transitioning from one close up to the other, the way Flash looks at WW smiling, then they look like Greek or Roman Mythological gods, it's like an Alex Ross painting. Shots of Aquaman close up with glowing eyes and the water/snow blowing on his face, the Parademons, the wide shot of the war (it looks like LotR). There is an EPIC "feel" to this. The shots of Bruce riding the horse to the bay. Wonder Woman sliding (pause it, you can see her ass perfect). It actually exceeded my expectations and looked better than the SDCC special. I had no problem with Cyborg, his CGi looks better than Ultron tbh. Why didn't people complain about that? Is it because part of his face is real and the contrast looks jarring? If he were 100% CGi, it would look better? I mean, if that's your only gripe, you're a loser. At the end of the day, this feels like a modern "Roman Mythology" or "Greek Mythology" Epic. It has a nice look. People complain too much nowadays. I would personally have used Manhunter but Cyborg is fine. People need to chill out and just enjoy this. What a time to be alive? A JL film. Parademons in Live Action! P.S. I loved how they contrasted Marvel's Civil War. The tangline "Divided We Fall" but the JL trailer said "Justice for All" they are both a play on the found fathers ideology of America. But ironically, the JL tangline is more positive and hopeful. There is a "cliché" feel too it, I don't know about "epic". What a time to be alive is right. We have an amazing MCU going on with tied in television. I don't really have time for half baked wannabe franchises. When DC gets their shit together, let me know. How ironic. Because I think MCU is episodic and cliche. It's quite repetitive and boring. So I watch DCEU and love it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 22:46:48 GMT
Of course I have a problem with someone actively wants to see the MCU fail and will clutch at any straws to prove it is. Besides that, I have a problem with you because I know you. I remember what you did back on IMDb. Don't even deny it. The other boot will drop, sooner or later, when you decide you're tired of this "nice" facade. You say you have a problem with someone who wants the MCU to fail. I never said I wanted it to fail. I have always said (on both boards) " It's not my cup of tea. Everyone has their own taste, but it's not mine. I prefer the DCEU films." Thats all all I ever said. However, you on the other hand have said many times you hope the DCEU fails. You said "I can't wait for this to fail" on another post/thread. Why? Why do you want it to fail? That's hypocritical. You don't even see how far your hypocrisy goes?! Because you think the DCEU films are bad, you want them to fail, and because you like the MCU, you are mad when others don't. And I don't even want them to fail, I just don't like them and you cannot accept that someone doesn't like those films. It drives you crazy. Why? I don't care if people hate BvS or Man of Steel, I love them, you're not affecting my opinion.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 26, 2017 22:47:44 GMT
I think the dark color palette is a double edged sword. It allows DC movies to have more polished-looking costumes because, well, when it's dark it's easier to hide flaws. There have been complaints about the MCU effects looking cartoony, but that's because when you shoot a fight scene in broad daylight all the fake aspects of the costume are laid out in plain sight. When the lighting is dark, it allows you to hide the flaws of costumes and special effects easier. I think this is partially why the DCEU movies all look so epic and glamorous. Easier to do so in the dark. On the flip side, it makes it very hard for the audience to see what's happening. Like, as much as I'd like to appreciate the batmobile I'd actually want to get a good look at it first before I can appreciate it. And what use are all the fancy action shots if we can't see it properly? Anyway, I just wish the DCEU would allow for a more normal-looking color palette. If you shoot at night then I understand it will be dark, but for heaven's sake can you at least make the daytime shots look like daytime? Because right now even the daytime shots look like they're taken in the middle of a thunderstorm. well there's a few daytime scenes in the trailer, with wonder woman in that.....bank? and when barry gets into bruce's car.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 23:03:00 GMT
Of course I have a problem with someone actively wants to see the MCU fail and will clutch at any straws to prove it is. Besides that, I have a problem with you because I know you. I remember what you did back on IMDb. Don't even deny it. The other boot will drop, sooner or later, when you decide you're tired of this "nice" facade. You say you have a problem with someone who wants the MCU to fail. I never said I wanted it to fail. I have always said (on both boards) " It's not my cup of tea. Everyone has their own taste, but it's not mine. I prefer the DCEU films." Thats all all I ever said. However, you on the other hand have said many times you hope the DCEU fails. You said "I can't wait for this to fail" on another post/thread. Why? Why do you want it to fail? That's hypocritical. You don't even see how far your hypocrisy goes?! Because you think the DCEU films are bad, you want them to fail, and because you like the MCU, you are mad when others don't. And I don't even want them to fail, I just don't like them and you cannot accept that someone doesn't like those films. It drives you crazy. Why? I don't care if people hate BvS or Man of Steel, I love them, you're not affecting my opinion. If you didn't want the MCU to fail, you wouldn't have tried to use flimsy logic in an attempt to prove it's already collapsing. Seriously, claiming that the MCU is on a downward trend because Captain America 3 didn't make as much as an official Avengers team-up? That's just wishful thinking on your part. You want the MCU to fail so the DCEU will be the top dog in town. You can't fool me, I remember you from the original IMDb. I want good DC films, but that is never going to happen with the DCEU. I frankly am very tired of watching iconic characters grimace, snarl, and wallow in self-pity for three hours straight. Heaven forbid they ever smile or take pride in being heroes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 23:32:24 GMT
Good Lord, WeirdRaptor is such a little bitch! Dude can't handle that the DCEU has fans.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 0:12:43 GMT
You say you have a problem with someone who wants the MCU to fail. I never said I wanted it to fail. I have always said (on both boards) " It's not my cup of tea. Everyone has their own taste, but it's not mine. I prefer the DCEU films." Thats all all I ever said. However, you on the other hand have said many times you hope the DCEU fails. You said "I can't wait for this to fail" on another post/thread. Why? Why do you want it to fail? That's hypocritical. You don't even see how far your hypocrisy goes?! Because you think the DCEU films are bad, you want them to fail, and because you like the MCU, you are mad when others don't. And I don't even want them to fail, I just don't like them and you cannot accept that someone doesn't like those films. It drives you crazy. Why? I don't care if people hate BvS or Man of Steel, I love them, you're not affecting my opinion. If you didn't want the MCU to fail, you wouldn't have tried to use flimsy logic in an attempt to prove it's already collapsing. Seriously, claiming that the MCU is on a downward trend because Captain America 3 didn't make as much as an official Avengers team-up? That's just wishful thinking on your part. You want the MCU to fail so the DCEU will be the top dog in town. You can't fool me, I remember you from the original IMDb. I want good DC films, but that is never going to happen with the DCEU. I frankly am very tired of watching iconic characters grimace, snarl, and wallow in self-pity for three hours straight. Heaven forbid they ever smile or take pride in being heroes. You're tired of the direction of the DCEU, I'm not. I prefer it to the MCU. So that doesn't explain why you think it should fail? Again, I never said I wanted the MCU to fail, I said I thought it reached its peak between Avengers-Iron Man 3. Then it's starting to lose steam with general Audiences. That's not wishing it would fail, it's an observation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 0:31:26 GMT
Yes, but we've established that you don't really seem to understand the DC characters.
Except it's not starting to lose steam at all. You're just seeing what you want to see because you want the MCU to fail. Your "observations" failed to take into account many factors that impact individual film grosses, and you've been told this countless by many people on the original IMDb boards. You refused to listen then, and you're still refusing to listen now.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 27, 2017 0:37:26 GMT
I think the dark color palette is a double edged sword. It allows DC movies to have more polished-looking costumes because, well, when it's dark it's easier to hide flaws. There have been complaints about the MCU effects looking cartoony, but that's because when you shoot a fight scene in broad daylight all the fake aspects of the costume are laid out in plain sight. When the lighting is dark, it allows you to hide the flaws of costumes and special effects easier. I think this is partially why the DCEU movies all look so epic and glamorous. Easier to do so in the dark. On the flip side, it makes it very hard for the audience to see what's happening. Like, as much as I'd like to appreciate the batmobile I'd actually want to get a good look at it first before I can appreciate it. And what use are all the fancy action shots if we can't see it properly? Anyway, I just wish the DCEU would allow for a more normal-looking color palette. If you shoot at night then I understand it will be dark, but for heaven's sake can you at least make the daytime shots look like daytime? Because right now even the daytime shots look like they're taken in the middle of a thunderstorm. well there's a few daytime scenes in the trailer, with wonder woman in that.....bank? and when barry gets into bruce's car. Yeah but even the daytime scenes look leeched of color. Plus they aren't exactly fighting in daytime that I saw.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 27, 2017 0:43:07 GMT
well there's a few daytime scenes in the trailer, with wonder woman in that.....bank? and when barry gets into bruce's car. Yeah but even the daytime scenes look leeched of color. Plus they aren't exactly fighting in daytime that I saw. Looks fairly light and amber colored. The main action yeah that's at night.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 27, 2017 0:47:44 GMT
I would say that the scenes with Barry and Bruce in the car, as well as Wonder Woman fighting in the museum had decent lighting. As for the night shots...they did seem to keep that stylized desaturation, which is probably bad news for the people who took issue with it in the previous movies.
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Post by chatterer on Mar 27, 2017 1:01:24 GMT
Interesting video essay on Marvel color grading.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 1:23:13 GMT
Yes, but we've established that you don't really seem to understand the DC characters. Except it's not starting to lose steam at all. You're just seeing what you want to see because you want the MCU to fail. Your "observations" failed to take into account many factors that impact individual film grosses, and you've been told this countless by many people on the original IMDb boards. You refused to listen then, and you're still refusing to listen now. So because I like the DCEU I don't understand the DC characters? I also love SMALLVILLE and Superman (1978)... I also like other interpretations because I'm open to artistic expression. You either want to pick fights or you're truly delusional.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 27, 2017 2:08:22 GMT
There is a "cliché" feel too it, I don't know about "epic". What a time to be alive is right. We have an amazing MCU going on with tied in television. I don't really have time for half baked wannabe franchises. When DC gets their shit together, let me know. How ironic. Because I think MCU is episodic and cliche. It's quite repetitive and boring. So I watch DCEU and love it. The DCEU demonstrates a clear lack of foresight, whereas the MCU has a very clear well woven structure.
It's not even debatable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 2:19:12 GMT
Yes, but we've established that you don't really seem to understand the DC characters. Except it's not starting to lose steam at all. You're just seeing what you want to see because you want the MCU to fail. Your "observations" failed to take into account many factors that impact individual film grosses, and you've been told this countless by many people on the original IMDb boards. You refused to listen then, and you're still refusing to listen now. So because I like the DCEU I don't understand the DC characters? I also love SMALLVILLE and Superman (1978)... I also like other interpretations because I'm open to artistic expression. You either want to pick fights or you're truly delusional. You're completely satisfied with a gloomy, scowling, whining Superman who seems to feel helping people is a bother. That right there proves you don't understand the character. If DesiredFX were here right now, he'd easily put you in your place like he always did.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 27, 2017 2:41:40 GMT
Interesting video essay on Marvel color grading. let's not bring this video in right now........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 8:45:22 GMT
So because I like the DCEU I don't understand the DC characters? I also love SMALLVILLE and Superman (1978)... I also like other interpretations because I'm open to artistic expression. You either want to pick fights or you're truly delusional. You're completely satisfied with a gloomy, scowling, whining Superman who seems to feel helping people is a bother. That right there proves you don't understand the character. If DesiredFX were here right now, he'd easily put you in your place like he always did. It's just a movie. It's not the end all be all of DC lore. It's not as if Snyder making these films means this is the definitive version of the characters. They are just films. They'll make another Superman film one day outside the DCEU. This universe won't last forever, it's just one version of them. You take things too seriously. The Incredicle Hulk is my 3rd all time favorite comic book character. I hated "Hulk" (2003) and was meh about "The Incredible Hulk" and then what do they do? They make him a glorified sidekick in Avengers films, while they've made 3 Caps films, 3 Iron Man films, and 3 Thor films. But I'm not taking it personally. One day, they'll reboot Hulk when the MCU either dies off or they retire him in the DCEU and Universal takes him back to reboot him Seperate from the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 16:39:24 GMT
It's also how this generation of kids are going to be introduced to Superman. Think about that.
The Incredible Hulk (2008) didn't do well, either, and besides which, the distribution rights actually belong to Universe. Marvel has to take an extra step for something that's proven to be difficult to make modern audiences accept in his own standalone film. I don't agree with their decision to regulate him to Avengers films, either, but I understand it.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 28, 2017 13:15:40 GMT
I actually think Hulk works best as a supporting character rather than full on lead. Then again, the Incredible Hulk series showed how well he could work as a main character.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 31, 2017 10:19:26 GMT
If all you care about are some cool shots and how much of Wonder Woman's ass you can see, Snydr is the perfect director for you. The guy is a manchild who doesn't care about anything but making things look "kool". But hey, at least you're honest about your low standards and not one of those fans that think these movies are intellectual because of some pseudo-philosophy vomited here and there by good actors delivering terrible performances.
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