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Post by koskiewicz on Oct 6, 2018 15:52:36 GMT
I do not own a cell phone and never will. I have a voice over internet fiber optic phone in my house. I do not have any voice mail system. I do have caller ID which is a technological wonder. If I am home, and the phone rings, and I do not recognize the caller via the ID, I just don't pick up. It is that simple.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Oct 6, 2018 17:25:34 GMT
I see you have never met an elderly person in your life. It is not only "elderly" people who fall for these scams .
as far as lordwhatever's comment .. phooey ! I realize that. In general, I have a problem with people who label innocent victims of anything as "stupid."
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 6, 2018 17:37:26 GMT
I have a problem with people who label innocent victims of anything as "stupid." I do too ! Anonymous Andy His insensitive comment was rather like the rash of threads about people "deserving to be flooded out because they chose to live near water !" I wanted to emphasize that it's all ages who can get targeted and scammed !
Another scam is the "your son (brother, grandson etc ) asked me to call and tell you that he is in jail and needs some $$$$ sent right away to bail him out" … then they give an address and name … theirs of course.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 17:40:31 GMT
Anyone ever got a call from someone who sounds as they came from India, saying that they have detected someting wrong in my microsoft and say they have a solution, or something similiar. It's happened to me few times. And then they ask you where you live and they say they're down the road from you, when 99% likely they really are calling from India.
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Post by teleadm on Oct 6, 2018 18:08:23 GMT
Anyone ever got a call from someone who sounds as they came from India, saying that they have detected someting wrong in my microsoft and say they have a solution, or something similiar. It's happened to me few times. And then they ask you where you live and they say they're down the road from you, when 99% likely they really are calling from India. Actually, according to Police Reports, they might come from one of the Ex-Yugoslavian countries, they just sound like Indians.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 6, 2018 18:35:21 GMT
That's what I tend to do too but sometimes people are suffering more than just "frustrations" so I'm hoping you never actually actually followed up the initial phone call with multiple phone calls just because the other person was "crass". I did it once or twice because the person was more than crass. The majority of people are crass. Big deal. No, I'm talking about fools who were over-the-top nasty and hurled obscenities, not your average bitchy old lady. Hopefully you were a good employee and did this during your lunch breaks.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 6, 2018 19:55:57 GMT
BUT Tele-marketers are not the same as scammers .. The whole point of the Original Post seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle even more than usual ! Memory refresher : This thread's Original Post about SCAMS
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Post by RussellWilson2013 on Oct 7, 2018 5:49:07 GMT
If I receive a call from an anonymous person who claims to be selling me something from an actual company, or giving me service, here are a few things that I watch and listen for to determine whether it’s a scam or not:
1. I generally check to see if there are any unusual patterns of speaking, and then I analyze them to see if it’s logical for a sales person, or any customer service representative to be using them. While every company’s code of conduct does change on a case by basis, generally keeping things professional towards the customer is necessary to keep them interested. They should also start the outbound call with a greeting that generally follows this pattern “Hello, my name is Amber from the Bank of America located in (insert the name of any city here), may I please speak with (insert any first and last name here)?”. 2. Before I give out any information to a telemarketer, I’d ask for them to give me the name of a company website. I’d then turn off my tracking cookies, and then I’d do an evaluation to see how legit it is, by seeing if the text is written in broken English or not, and then I’d look to see if there’s a physical address for a business building or a store listed on there. I would then evaluate to see if there’s too little information listed on there, and I’d look for photos, and then ponder as to whether the lighting and angles are hiding anything. 3. Lastly, I’d look up the information that I’ve obtained, and then I’d read reviews to see if any has reported or debunked a scam.
I wouldn’t want to get into the sophisticated purchasing scam trap with my idea, or else my debit card or any of my personal could give off clues to the puzzle as to who I am, causing for my bank account to remain starving under their own deceptive purchasing, with their remorse being torn out of them, along with any intrinsic guilt. It’s all an act, and a cleverly written pornography trap trying to strip your money out of you before it begins, with them then trying walk away without showing any high quality action that human nature intended us to get off from watching, slapping us right in the ass with some rusty iron. As for fast talking ones, they’ll just quickly lower your guards and strike at you with bullets of information that human’s have a desire to hear to our ears at a 300 mile per hour rate to weaken our shield built from common sense, giving us practically no time to dodge or to think about it, as their scandal relies on humans being generally being unable to react wisely, defeating us, causing for us to forfeit everything away. That’s why I avoid them all together, as they’re the people with two personalities, with the fake one hiding the venomous one underneath, lol.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Oct 7, 2018 17:27:36 GMT
My opinion of people who get scammed is this:
If you're stupid enough to give out personal details to a complete stranger you deserve to get scammed.
I see you have never met an elderly person in your life. Fuck'em!
If they let themselves get scammed it's their hard luck.
I look at it not as a scam, but as an 'Idiot Tax'.
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Post by deembastille on Oct 7, 2018 23:42:39 GMT
Last week I had a call from a young Indian gentleman who claimed to be calling from my bank. The call was regarding my credit card, but I heard a baby crying, kids squealing and a dog barking in the background. Naturally, I knew right away it was a wild and crazy day at the bank! So I gave him all my personal information quickly so he could go see about the dog. Probably wasn't even an Indian. They view dogs as dirty.
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Post by deembastille on Oct 7, 2018 23:45:28 GMT
There's a new one regarding your social security number. That one is scary because the automated initial message sounds convincing.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 7, 2018 23:52:43 GMT
If I receive a call from an anonymous person who claims to be selling me something from an actual company, or giving me service, here are a few things that I watch and listen for to determine whether it’s a scam or not: 1. I generally check to see if there are any unusual patterns of speaking, and then I analyze them to see if it’s logical for a sales person, or any customer service representative to be using them. While every company’s code of conduct does change on a case by basis, generally keeping things professional towards the customer is necessary to keep them interested. They should also start the outbound call with a greeting that generally follows this pattern “Hello, my name is Amber from the Bank of America located in (insert the name of any city here), may I please speak with (insert any first and last name here)?”. 2. Before I give out any information to a telemarketer, I’d ask for them to give me the name of a company website. I’d then turn off my tracking cookies, and then I’d do an evaluation to see how legit it is, by seeing if the text is written in broken English or not, and then I’d look to see if there’s a physical address for a business building or a store listed on there. I would then evaluate to see if there’s too little information listed on there, and I’d look for photos, and then ponder as to whether the lighting and angles are hiding anything. 3. Lastly, I’d look up the information that I’ve obtained, and then I’d read reviews to see if any has reported or debunked a scam. I wouldn’t want to get into the sophisticated purchasing scam trap with my idea, or else my debit card or any of my personal could give off clues to the puzzle as to who I am, causing for my bank account to remain starving under their own deceptive purchasing, with their remorse being torn out of them, along with any intrinsic guilt. It’s all an act, and a cleverly written pornography trap trying to strip your money out of you before it begins, with them then trying walk away without showing any high quality action that human nature intended us to get off from watching, slapping us right in the ass with some rusty iron. As for fast talking ones, they’ll just quickly lower your guards and strike at you with bullets of information that human’s have a desire to hear to our ears at a 300 mile per hour rate to weaken our shield built from common sense, giving us practically no time to dodge or to think about it, as their scandal relies on humans being generally being unable to react wisely, defeating us, causing for us to forfeit everything away. That’s why I avoid them all together, as they’re the people with two personalities, with the fake one hiding the venomous one underneath, lol. So much work! If I get a call from a number I don't recognize, I don't answer. If it's a legitimate call, they'll leave a message.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 7, 2018 23:54:14 GMT
Last week I had a call from a young Indian gentleman who claimed to be calling from my bank. The call was regarding my credit card, but I heard a baby crying, kids squealing and a dog barking in the background. Naturally, I knew right away it was a wild and crazy day at the bank! So I gave him all my personal information quickly so he could go see about the dog. Probably wasn't even an Indian. They view dogs as dirty.Deem …. You do know that they have dogs in India, right ? So a dog barking in the background would be 100% feasible, right ? In the realm of possibility ? about that "They view dogs as dirty"
... source of your information ? might be true, might not be … curious as to whether it is or not and if it is just you spouting an opinion again.
NOT to mention that the post you replied to was a damned funny comic take by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on the scammer scenario!
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 7, 2018 23:56:09 GMT
"Actually, he got three calls from the same number in rapid succession. He ignored the first two, letting them both go to voicemail. But he picked up on the third call, thinking it must be something urgent and important."
If it's "urgent and important" they'll leave a message.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 7, 2018 23:56:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 1:59:07 GMT
I only say one word to a marketer, "hello". More often the not they cant pronounce my last name so I hang up.If they do get the name right and go into their schpeel, I hang up.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 8, 2018 10:47:11 GMT
Probably wasn't even an Indian. They view dogs as dirty. Deem …. You do know that they have dogs in India, right ? So a dog barking in the background would be 100% feasible, right ? In the realm of possibility ? about that "They view dogs as dirty"
... source of your information ? might be true, might not be … curious as to whether it is or not and if it is just you spouting an opinion again.
NOT to mention that the post you replied to was a damned funny comic take by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on the scammer scenario! It actually happened too, except for the part about my giving my personal information.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 8, 2018 11:07:35 GMT
Lebowskidoo 🦞 It actually happened too, I've gotten ones where you can hear all of the phone bank people in the background but no squalling kids or barking cats or mewing dogs !
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 8, 2018 11:35:57 GMT
Lebowskidoo 🦞 It actually happened too, I've gotten ones where you can hear all of the phone bank people in the background but no squalling kids or barking cats or mewing dogs ! If I've got time and I'm in the mood, I like to do funny voices and lead them on. Or confuse them with logic, such as, if you're from my bank, why do you not already have my information?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 8, 2018 11:46:14 GMT
Lebowskidoo 🦞I find that my "Hello .. HELLO ! is anyone there ? I can't hear you" routine can be rather amusing (for me) ! One guy actually laughed at that and said "Good one !" Mostly I either let the landline calls go to the cell phone to be screened and then they don't get picked up. The closest to scam calls are the ones saying that "nothing is wrong with your credit card but …. " I don't know what the "but" is because I hang up at that point.
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