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Post by Lee on Oct 9, 2018 8:49:36 GMT
Hope not. Sequel will be PG-13 too, despitr Carnage. Not interested in that.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 9, 2018 14:51:18 GMT
Color me surprised.
Box office doesn't mean anything to me, if 5 people saw my favorite movie it would still be my favorite. Still, I thought Venom would be a disaster. Maybe it is worth checking out. If box office doesn't mean anything to you, why does a strong opening weekend change your opinion of the film? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 14:57:22 GMT
Color me surprised.
Box office doesn't mean anything to me, if 5 people saw my favorite movie it would still be my favorite. Still, I thought Venom would be a disaster. Maybe it is worth checking out. If box office doesn't mean anything to you, why does a strong opening weekend change your opinion of the film? It just altered my perception that people wouldn't flock to see it. I was wrong, and delighted to be so because I like Tom Hardy and wish no ill will to his career. If it was the inverse and it didn't have a strong weekend opening, it wouldn't make a difference to the actual quality of the film.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 9, 2018 14:59:43 GMT
If box office doesn't mean anything to you, why does a strong opening weekend change your opinion of the film? It just altered my perception that people wouldn't flock to see it. I was wrong, and delighted to be so because I like Tom Hardy and wish no ill will to his career. If it was the inverse and it didn't have a strong weekend opening, it wouldn't make a difference to the actual quality of the film.
People also flocked to see BvS in its opening weekend. Either way I hope you enjoy it if you check it out. I like Hardy but I'll be avoiding this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 15:03:17 GMT
It just altered my perception that people wouldn't flock to see it. I was wrong, and delighted to be so because I like Tom Hardy and wish no ill will to his career. If it was the inverse and it didn't have a strong weekend opening, it wouldn't make a difference to the actual quality of the film.
People also flocked to see BvS in its opening weekend. Either way I hope you enjoy it if you check it out. I like Hardy but I'll be avoiding this one. I'll wait for video, like Batman v Superman. I'd tag along for Venom but I wouldn't be the driving force behind the outing. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 10, 2018 2:58:46 GMT
Or you could go see both, like i am. I did too. And I enjoyed both too.
If they do a sequel it can definitely be better than this one because they got all the origin and character building stuff out of the way here. The next one would be all story and action. It could be great. I hope they do make a sequel.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 11, 2018 8:44:12 GMT
$225,268,591 now
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Post by politicidal on Oct 12, 2018 15:31:33 GMT
Or you could go see both, like i am. I did too. And I enjoyed both too.
If they do a sequel it can definitely be better than this one because they got all the origin and character building stuff out of the way here. The next one would be all story and action. It could be great. I hope they do make a sequel.
Money talks so they probably will. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 12, 2018 15:42:41 GMT
I did too. And I enjoyed both too.
If they do a sequel it can definitely be better than this one because they got all the origin and character building stuff out of the way here. The next one would be all story and action. It could be great. I hope they do make a sequel.
Money talks so they probably will. Its not a complete slam dunk just yet. The movie could peter out at the box office from here on out...
Still, this is my hope... They believe in the franchise potential enough to make a sequel, they make a much better movie than this one (which wont be hard), and the franchise takes off!
The worst case scenario is what happened with Amazing Spider-Man 2. They go for it and make a worse movie than the first one. Franchise dies. DOH!
But if that happens, maybe they'll give Venom to MCU too! LOL!
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 13, 2018 1:23:35 GMT
scabab I haven't been tracking Venom like I normally do. How does it look. I want to say I saw one article stating that imdb page views indicate it will have a strong opening week and second weekend. Other than that I haven't really read many articles or tracking.
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Post by scabab on Oct 13, 2018 9:39:12 GMT
scabab I haven't been tracking Venom like I normally do. How does it look. I want to say I saw one article stating that imdb page views indicate it will have a strong opening week and second weekend. Other than that I haven't really read many articles or tracking. So far it's done very well. It's ahead of Ant-man and the Wasp over the same amount of days. It is dropping hard though, 42% on Wednesday and 10% Thursday so it'll definitely finish below it. If it's lucky it could reach $200 million domestically. |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 13, 2018 10:51:17 GMT
Money talks so they probably will. Its not a complete slam dunk just yet. The movie could peter out at the box office from here on out...
Still, this is my hope... They believe in the franchise potential enough to make a sequel, they make a much better movie than this one (which wont be hard), and the franchise takes off!
The worst case scenario is what happened with Amazing Spider-Man 2. They go for it and make a worse movie than the first one. Franchise dies. DOH!
But if that happens, maybe they'll give Venom to MCU too! LOL!
It would be pretty difficult to make a worse movie than this. Sony would probably need to pass the rights over to WB/DC if they desperately wanted to achieve that. 
Even if the BO peters out (which it probably will), Venom is still going to make >$300 million worldwide which means it is well in profit. Sony will make a sequel.  |
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 13, 2018 11:02:26 GMT
scabab I haven't been tracking Venom like I normally do. How does it look. I want to say I saw one article stating that imdb page views indicate it will have a strong opening week and second weekend. Other than that I haven't really read many articles or tracking. So far it's done very well. It's ahead of Ant-man and the Wasp over the same amount of days. It is dropping hard though, 42% on Wednesday and 10% Thursday so it'll definitely finish below it. If it's lucky it could reach $200 million domestically. Thanks. I've always thought If critics ratings mean anything then it shows up on the second weekend not the first. Genre movies 1st weekend is skewed more positively than it should be. The first weekend of genre movies get the diehard nerds/fans. The second weekend has the general audience support, but people who take critics and word of mouth seriously gets dissuaded when both are negative. |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 13, 2018 11:18:38 GMT
So far it's done very well. It's ahead of Ant-man and the Wasp over the same amount of days. It is dropping hard though, 42% on Wednesday and 10% Thursday so it'll definitely finish below it. If it's lucky it could reach $200 million domestically. Thanks. I've always thought If critics ratings mean anything then it shows up on the second weekend not the first. Genre movies 1st weekend is skewed more positively than it should be. The first weekend of genre movies get the diehard nerds/fans. The second weekend has the general audience support, but people who take critics and word of mouth seriously gets dissuaded when both are negative. I honestly believe the critics' reviews have a negligible effect on BO performance. Venom is proof of that. If it drops off badly this week it will mainly be because of word of mouth and people telling each other that it's shit. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 13, 2018 11:44:55 GMT
Thanks. I've always thought If critics ratings mean anything then it shows up on the second weekend not the first. Genre movies 1st weekend is skewed more positively than it should be. The first weekend of genre movies get the diehard nerds/fans. The second weekend has the general audience support, but people who take critics and word of mouth seriously gets dissuaded when both are negative. I honestly believe the critics' reviews have a negligible effect on BO performance. Venom is proof of that. If it drops off badly this week it will mainly be because of word of mouth and people telling each other that it's shit. I do think word of mouth can definitely effect the second weekend usually toward the negative than positive. I don't know if critics effect the second weekend or not. That's why I qualified my first statement with "if critics ratings mean anything' I don't have any proof that would back up that hypothesis. I've read a couple articles that cited anecdotal evidence. And anecdotal evidence is just another way to say "I don't know. I'm guessing here."You would think some nerdy people would've studied this idea. If it had been studied you would think all the nerdy youtubers, bloggers, and reviewers would cover it. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 13, 2018 12:44:43 GMT
Thanks. I've always thought If critics ratings mean anything then it shows up on the second weekend not the first. Genre movies 1st weekend is skewed more positively than it should be. The first weekend of genre movies get the diehard nerds/fans. The second weekend has the general audience support, but people who take critics and word of mouth seriously gets dissuaded when both are negative. I honestly believe the critics' reviews have a negligible effect on BO performance. Venom is proof of that. If it drops off badly this week it will mainly be because of word of mouth and people telling each other that it's shit. I think it's safe to say that studios believe critics opinions affect the box office/bottom line. If studios didn't think reviews affect sales then they wouldn't wait until the last possible second to lift review embargoes. Also conversely people wouldn't give Marvel Studios respect for lifting their embargo so far out from release date. I've seen more than a few articles that acknowledge how Marvel Studios has to have faith in the quality of their product. I guess you could argue that Marvel doesn't think critical reviews affect sales. If that were case then I would ask why would they put the rotten tomatoes % in their TV spots. |
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Post by scabab on Oct 14, 2018 16:50:20 GMT
$378 million now. Already made several times its budget. A big success for them financially.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 14, 2018 17:33:55 GMT
Yep just updated the thread.
So it's safe to say that we'll probably get a sequel.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 14, 2018 20:10:01 GMT
I hope for a long cut version with the missing 40 minutes Hardy complained about restored; this would make the home release super profitable for Sony too, and they will plan a threequel.
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 14, 2018 21:43:05 GMT
Jurassic World, Suicide Squad and now Venom......sometimes I wonder WTF people are thinking???!!?  |
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