NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 8, 2018 9:32:58 GMT
Critics didn't prevent Venom and The Nun from doing just fine. And it isn't as though either of those movies is actually any good. Both are DCU level garbage.
It is time to face facts - general audiences have zero faith in the DCU.
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Post by scabab on Oct 8, 2018 17:01:23 GMT
Well there hasn't been much in the way of failure in that regard in the first place.
Man of Steel was the first successful Superman movie in decades following two flops.
Batman and Superman didn't make as much as was expected but still made a considerable amount and had one of the highest worldwide openings.
Suicide Squad was a surprise hit that made more than expected.
Wonder Woman was also surprise hit that made more than expected.
There was only Justice League which didn't do very well but that wasnt down to critics because there was never much hype for it.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 8, 2018 22:56:10 GMT
I guess it's my turn now?
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 9, 2018 9:59:48 GMT
Well there hasn't been much in the way of failure in that regard in the first place. Man of Steel was the first successful Superman movie in decades following two flops. Batman and Superman didn't make as much as was expected but still made a considerable amount and had one of the highest worldwide openings. Suicide Squad was a surprise hit that made more than expected. Wonder Woman was also surprise hit that made more than expected. There was only Justice League which didn't do very well but that wasnt down to critics because there was never much hype for it. MoS - Predicted to make $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! BvS - Should have made $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! Justice League - Theoretically, should have been the biggest movie of the franchise and yet grossed less than each of the other DCU movies = FAIL!
Each time, DCU crybabies blamed the critics and their perceived MCU bias.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 9, 2018 12:09:56 GMT
Well there hasn't been much in the way of failure in that regard in the first place. Man of Steel was the first successful Superman movie in decades following two flops. Batman and Superman didn't make as much as was expected but still made a considerable amount and had one of the highest worldwide openings. Suicide Squad was a surprise hit that made more than expected. Wonder Woman was also surprise hit that made more than expected. There was only Justice League which didn't do very well but that wasnt down to critics because there was never much hype for it. MoS - Predicted to make $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! BvS - Should have made $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! Justice League - Theoretically, should have been the biggest movie of the franchise and yet grossed less than each of the other DCU movies = FAIL!
Each time, DCU crybabies blamed the critics and their perceived MCU bias. ^ uh uh, shifting the bait-posts....
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 9, 2018 12:31:29 GMT
MoS - Predicted to make $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! BvS - Should have made $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! Justice League - Theoretically, should have been the biggest movie of the franchise and yet grossed less than each of the other DCU movies = FAIL!
Each time, DCU crybabies blamed the critics and their perceived MCU bias. ^ uh uh, shifting the bait-posts.... I can't tell if Norman is just a contrary troll. Basically not on any side and just likes saying confrontational post. A double agent troll. Someone who actually likes DCEU but makes posts like this to make people who don't like DCEU look like assholes. He is actually a MCU liking Troll who hates DCEU.
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Post by scabab on Oct 9, 2018 14:57:47 GMT
MoS - Predicted to make $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! Not really, in fact Box Office Mojo did a prediction beforehand and they said $650 million worldwide. So it actually did more than they predicted. www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3674&p=.htmIt should have but failing to do so doesn't make it a failure. Captain America Civil War should have made more than Iron Man 3 but it didn't. The movie made $106 million in profit, the 13th most profitable movie of the year. Profit =/= Failure. And as said this one was a failure but it was never going to be the biggest movie. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman being together on screen for the first time had already been done. This was just the same thing again except without Superman in the advertisement. In addition to the two movies you ignored. Suicide Squad made $158 million in profit which is more than Doctor Strange. Wonder Woman made $252 million in profit, considerably more than Civil War, Spider-man Homecoming, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Thor Ragnarok. So aside from Justice League they've all been successful. There is no "when their movies fail at the box office".
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 9, 2018 16:12:10 GMT
Well there hasn't been much in the way of failure in that regard in the first place. Man of Steel was the first successful Superman movie in decades following two flops. Batman and Superman didn't make as much as was expected but still made a considerable amount and had one of the highest worldwide openings. Suicide Squad was a surprise hit that made more than expected. Wonder Woman was also surprise hit that made more than expected. There was only Justice League which didn't do very well but that wasnt down to critics because there was never much hype for it. MoS - Predicted to make $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! BvS - Should have made $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! Justice League - Theoretically, should have been the biggest movie of the franchise and yet grossed less than each of the other DCU movies = FAIL!
Each time, DCU crybabies blamed the critics and their perceived MCU bias. I really don’t see any reason why MOS should’ve made a billion.
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 10, 2018 1:22:36 GMT
j MoS - Predicted to make $1 billion plus worldwide = FAIL! Not really, in fact Box Office Mojo did a prediction beforehand and they said $650 million worldwide. So it actually did more than they predicted. www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3674&p=.htmIt should have but failing to do so doesn't make it a failure. Captain America Civil War should have made more than Iron Man 3 but it didn't. The movie made $106 million in profit, the 13th most profitable movie of the year. Profit =/= Failure. And as said this one was a failure but it was never going to be the biggest movie. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman being together on screen for the first time had already been done. This was just the same thing again except without Superman in the advertisement. In addition to the two movies you ignored. Suicide Squad made $158 million in profit which is more than Doctor Strange. Wonder Woman made $252 million in profit, considerably more than Civil War, Spider-man Homecoming, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Thor Ragnarok. So aside from Justice League they've all been successful. There is no "when their movies fail at the box office". Tsujihara predicted MoS would make at least $500 million domestically while Jeff Robinov predicted it would be the most successful WB movie ever, saying it would make more than not only Batman (The Dark Night and Dark Knight Rises both made over the $1 billion mark) but Harry Potter as well, the biggest of which made $1.3 billion at the box office.
#EpicFail
BvS may have made $106 million profit when all was said and done but that profit wasn't from ticket sales alone.
#Fail
Justice League should have been the biggest movie in the franchise. Infinity War made over $2 billion and we have seen most of the Avengers on screen together several times before.
#Noexcuse #Fail
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 10, 2018 2:05:41 GMT
Critics didn't prevent Venom and The Nun from doing just fine. And it isn't as though either of those movies is actually any good. Both are DCU level garbage.
It is time to face facts - general audiences have zero faith in the DCU. No one blames critics for the movies doing bad. On the contrary, its anti-dc assholes that point to how badly the movies do with the critics. Norman, get a life...
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 10, 2018 9:41:04 GMT
Critics didn't prevent Venom and The Nun from doing just fine. And it isn't as though either of those movies is actually any good. Both are DCU level garbage.
It is time to face facts - general audiences have zero faith in the DCU. No one blames critics for the movies doing bad. On the contrary, its anti-dc assholes that point to how badly the movies do with the critics. Norman, get a life...
Sorry, bro, I have seen plenty of posts from DC Fans who blame the critics for a movie's poor BO performance.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 10, 2018 10:14:48 GMT
Critics destroyed their own credibility right from Iron Man 2. You can add Spider-Man fans to the list who did not buy what critics said on venom.
it must be sad for mcu fans to have supposedly good reviews and have that questioned and not seen as 100% legitimate.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 10, 2018 14:30:11 GMT
No one blames critics for the movies doing bad. On the contrary, its anti-dc assholes that point to how badly the movies do with the critics. Norman, get a life...
Sorry, bro, I have seen plenty of posts from DC Fans who blame the critics for a movie's poor BO performance. I bet we could both post an equal amount of the opposite to prove our points.
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Post by scabab on Oct 10, 2018 15:47:22 GMT
Tsujihara predicted MoS would make at least $500 million domestically while Jeff Robinov predicted it would be the most successful WB movie ever, saying it would make more than not only Batman (The Dark Night and Dark Knight Rises both made over the $1 billion mark) but Harry Potter as well, the biggest of which made $1.3 billion at the box office. Two people who work for Warner Bros hyping up the movies chances, shocking. BoxOffice.com predicted the movie would make $325 million domestic of which it did 90% of that. Like someone else said you're shifting the goal posts. You said when "their movies fail at the box office", Man of Steel didn't fail at the box office so now it's about failing to meet a couple individuals personal prediction? Just as is the case for all movies. So seeing as the movie made a considerable amount of profit and ranked 13th for the year then it was not a failure either. Why should Justice League have been the biggest? Because The Avengers was the biggest? Infinity War brought together The Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, Spider-man and Doctor Strange. That had never been done before. That's why it made that kind of money. Justice League was nothing new. All of the characters had already appeared in Batman Vs Superman.
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