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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 26, 2017 6:07:31 GMT
Personally, I see it as kind of like the Kobayashi Maru test......but with a few significant differences.  What do YOU think? Is there any point to it? Is it all about gratification of the material self? Or is there more going on? |
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Post by puvo on Mar 26, 2017 6:29:07 GMT
Personally, I see it as kind of like the Kobayashi Maru test......but with a few significant differences. What do YOU think? Is there any point to it? Is it all about gratification of the material self? Or is there more going on? Thats a bit sad that you feel life is a no win situation. What about all the people who do pretty well in life, and enjoy their lives? Point? I dont see an external point, outside of whatever point anyone wants to give it. |
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Post by vomisacaasi on Mar 26, 2017 6:37:50 GMT
Personally, I see it as kind of like the Kobayashi Maru test......but with a few significant differences. What do YOU think? Is there any point to it? Is it all about gratification of the material self? Or is there more going on? Thats a bit sad that you feel life is a no win situation. What about all the people who do pretty well in life, and enjoy their lives? Point? I dont see an external point, outside of whatever point anyone wants to give it. Exactly. There is no point to life but you you give it. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 26, 2017 6:38:44 GMT
Personally, I see it as kind of like the Kobayashi Maru test......but with a few significant differences. What do YOU think? Is there any point to it? Is it all about gratification of the material self? Or is there more going on? Thats a bit sad that you feel life is a no win situation. What about all the people who do pretty well in life, and enjoy their lives? Point? I dont see an external point, outside of whatever point anyone wants to give it. It's a no-win situation in that there's no avoiding death. You can give the Grim Reaper an argument, but even if you win this round, there'll be another, yes? |
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Post by puvo on Mar 26, 2017 6:43:33 GMT
Thats a bit sad that you feel life is a no win situation. What about all the people who do pretty well in life, and enjoy their lives? Point? I dont see an external point, outside of whatever point anyone wants to give it. It's a no-win situation in that there's no avoiding death. You can give the Grim Reaper an argument, but even if you win this round, there'll be another, yes? Ah, I see what you mean. |
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 26, 2017 6:47:10 GMT
A human life for me would be one of a traveller. I want to travel all around the world. Visit every country perhaps if my economic situation and political situation of the world permits me to do so.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 26, 2017 6:54:44 GMT
A human life for me would be one of a traveller. I want to travel all around the world. Visit every country perhaps if my economic situation and political situation of the world permits me to do so. There was a contestant on Jeopardy years ago whose goal was to visit every country in Africa, but he did not go to Libya because it was easy to get into but notoriously difficult to get out of. Now that the previous regime is no more, perhaps this has changed. Hopefully you can visit every country. I think there are 197 of them currently, but I'm not the best at remembering numbers. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 26, 2017 7:01:09 GMT
It's a no-win situation in that there's no avoiding death. You can give the Grim Reaper an argument, but even if you win this round, there'll be another, yes? Ah, I see what you mean. A little while ago I was thinking about all the people I've known who seem to feel that the goal of the human collective is continuance, and the goal of the individual human is to breed, thus passing off one's DNA like the baton in a relay race. Me, I never thought that was a good-enough reason. Even germs can procreate. It's no big deal. A few of them have pointed out that the Bible says God told Man to go forth and be fruitful. And I pointed out that He told that to the children of Noah a long, long time ago. There seem to be enough of us now. Maybe too many. And quite a few are Chinese, but I digress. |
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 26, 2017 7:06:54 GMT
A human life for me would be one of a traveller. I want to travel all around the world. Visit every country perhaps if my economic situation and political situation of the world permits me to do so. There was a contestant on Jeopardy years ago whose goal was to visit every country in Africa, but he did not go to Libya because it was easy to get into but notoriously difficult to get out of. Now that the previous regime is no more, perhaps this has changed. Hopefully you can visit every country. I think there are 197 of them currently, but I'm not the best at remembering numbers. Yeah...but it might depend mostly on whether I can have enough money or not. Even if I don't manage to travel everywhere I would like to travel to a few of my favourites. Tibet in Asia, northern lights in Scandinavia and Masai Mara in Africa are on my must to visit list. |
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Post by Jonesy1 on Mar 26, 2017 11:18:10 GMT
Personally, I see it as kind of like the Kobayashi Maru test......but with a few significant differences. What do YOU think? Is there any point to it? Is it all about gratification of the material self? Or is there more going on? Here's another Star Trek reference that sums it up for me. "It can be argued that a human is ultimately the sum of his experiences." -Benjamin Sisko |
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Post by vomisacaasi on Mar 26, 2017 11:24:26 GMT
Personally, I see it as kind of like the Kobayashi Maru test......but with a few significant differences. What do YOU think? Is there any point to it? Is it all about gratification of the material self? Or is there more going on? Here's another Star Trek reference that sums it up for me. "It can be argued that a human is ultimately the sum of his experiences." -Benjamin Sisko Good quote |
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Post by Sulla on Mar 26, 2017 11:28:57 GMT
A human life for me would be one of a traveller. I want to travel all around the world. Visit every country perhaps if my economic situation and political situation of the world permits me to do so. That reminds me...
"We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." It's from a western called Broken Trail. Have you seen that one? It has Robert Duvall, who is my favorite cowboy in movies.
I can relate to what you're saying. I've always been fascinated by stories of people who traveled to faraway places and saw different cultures and unusual things. As a child I went on a few spontaneous adventures far from home which later got me into trouble with my parents. It's as if we are witnesses to life. To what end I don't know. Maybe we're recording everything we see and learn for a potential afterlife or maybe we're the 'lens' through which a hidden being experiences the details of this reality. Maybe it's just another desire for us to satisfy.
There's a line in a Neil Young song which goes, "I want to see what's never been seen. I want to live that age old dream." That expresses what I feel.
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Post by Jillian on Mar 26, 2017 11:31:04 GMT
….a journey that can take a while if you play your cards right.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 26, 2017 11:31:26 GMT
A human life for me would be one of a traveller. I want to travel all around the world. Visit every country perhaps if my economic situation and political situation of the world permits me to do so. That reminds me...
"We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." It's from a western called Broken Trail. Have you seen that one? It has Robert Duvall, who is my favorite cowboy in movies.
I can relate to what you're saying. I've always been fascinated by stories of people who traveled to faraway places and saw different cultures and unusual things. As a child I went on a few spontaneous adventures far from home which later got me into trouble with my parents. It's as if we are witnesses to life. To what end I don't know. Maybe we're recording everything we see and learn for a potential afterlife or maybe we're the 'lens' through which a hidden being experiences the details of this reality. Maybe it's just another desire for us to satisfy.
There's a line in a Neil Young song which goes, "I want to see what's never been seen. I want to live that age old dream." That expresses what I feel.
Oh boy, you like Duvall in movies where he wears a cowboy hat. Blade might have something to say about that. |
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Post by Sulla on Mar 26, 2017 11:37:35 GMT
Oh boy, you like Duvall in movies where he wears a cowboy hat. Blade might have something to say about that. What the Klingon says is unimportant, and I do not hear his words. |
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 26, 2017 11:51:07 GMT
A human life for me would be one of a traveller. I want to travel all around the world. Visit every country perhaps if my economic situation and political situation of the world permits me to do so. That reminds me...
"We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." It's from a western called Broken Trail. Have you seen that one? It has Robert Duvall, who is my favorite cowboy in movies.
I can relate to what you're saying. I've always been fascinated by stories of people who traveled to faraway places and saw different cultures and unusual things. As a child I went on a few spontaneous adventures far from home which later got me into trouble with my parents. It's as if we are witnesses to life. To what end I don't know. Maybe we're recording everything we see and learn for a potential afterlife or maybe we're the 'lens' through which a hidden being experiences the details of this reality. Maybe it's just another desire for us to satisfy.
There's a line in a Neil Young song which goes, "I want to see what's never been seen. I want to live that age old dream." That expresses what I feel.
Exactly. It's the tingling feeling I want to experience of knowing unknown things and observing cultures that are different to those where I have lived. Another thing that has bothered me is that because of communication system improvements there are hardly any surprises now. Back in 1990s I made a 40 hour travel on train and the journey was more exciting than destination. I was inquisitive about every small town or district block where the train stopped. Sometimes I saw Bengali alphabets, sometimes Tamil, sometimes Hindi, sometimes urdu, sometimes Telugu and sometimes Kannada. I liked to observe how they dressed and what sort of foods they sold even if the foods were unhygienic. Travelling makes me happy. My last real travel was in 2014 when I visited Bhutan. In 2013 I visited Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland along with some parts of England. |
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Post by Sulla on Mar 26, 2017 12:32:01 GMT
Another thing that has bothered me is that because of communication system improvements there are hardly any surprises now.
True, we were born between the past era of explorers and the future age of space exploration.
But there are still many things which are surprising to us personally, just like the train trip you mentioned. I had no idea there's a Roman amphitheater virtually hidden in a residential neighborhood of Paris. There are trees in California which have been alive since before Ashoka and Plato. Even though these things are known, it's still a thrill for me to experience them in person.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 14:02:25 GMT
The objective purpose of human life is the same as the objective purpose of all other life - to reproduce DNA molecules.
The subjective purpose of your life is whatever you decide it is. For me, it's to believe as many true things and not believe as many false things as possible, harm as few people as I reasonably can, share happiness with the people I care about, and generally try to be a good person.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 26, 2017 14:22:40 GMT
The objective purpose of human life is the same as the objective purpose of all other life - to reproduce DNA molecules. The subjective purpose of your life is whatever you decide it is. For me, it's to believe as many true things and not believe as many false things as possible, harm as few people as I reasonably can, share happiness with the people I care about, and generally try to be a good person. Interesting point; objective vs. subjective. Objective is what it is. Subjective is what you decide it is. And that is what I ponder on a daily basis, still, even at my age (63).
I also like what Sulla said, "It's as if we are witnesses to life. To what end I don't know. Maybe we're recording everything we see and learn for a potential afterlife or maybe we're the 'lens' through which a hidden being experiences the details of this reality. Maybe it's just another desire for us to satisfy."
Just by participating in this message board is an attempt to pass something on, in an attempt to further humanity towards a more peaceful and happy life.
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Post by phludowin on Mar 26, 2017 15:34:15 GMT
My two cents.
Before the human becomes a person, human life is just a bunch of chemical processes.
After the human becomes a person, life becomes learning.
And when humans are able to assume responsibility, life is what they make of it.
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