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Post by snsurone on Oct 13, 2018 18:49:10 GMT
I had read somewhere that Alfred Hitchcock once directed an actress to go into the water during a beach scene from one of his movies, and she explained why she couldn't (tampons didn't exist at the time).
Hitch was stunned; according to the article, he never knew that women menstruated!
Uh, if I'm right, Hitchcock was married to Alma at the time.
Wasn't he aware of her "monthly visitor"?
And its correlation to the conception and birth of his daughter Pat?
I can't believe that any adult, male or female, could be that ignorant!
Speaking for myself, my "monthly visitor" departed for good about 14 years ago.
And I don't miss it one whit!!
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Post by Isapop on Oct 13, 2018 20:09:14 GMT
He really never made any period pictures.
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Post by snsurone on Oct 13, 2018 21:19:16 GMT
He really never made any period pictures. To quote Ralph Kramden: "Har, har , HARdee, har har!!" Actually, I think he did direct one set in the 19th or early 20th century. I think it may be UNDER CAPRICORN. |
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Post by marianne48 on Oct 14, 2018 1:54:53 GMT
I can't believe that any adult, male or female, could be that ignorant! 50-100 years ago, people were a lot more likely to be kept in the dark about sexuality and functions of the human body. There were married couples who conducted all their sexual activities in the dark, and some didn't even see their spouses naked. Cases of people being unaware that their spouses were not even the gender that they thought they were have been reported (a wife might be married for years to another female masquerading as a male, for example). Menstruation was not a topic of discussion when males were present, and even among females, it was talked about with a lot of discretion. It's possible that a lot of men weren't that aware of the real reason their wives rebuffed them during certain times of the month. Maybe Marnie was a reflection of Hitchcock's feelings on the subject. |
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 14, 2018 10:43:43 GMT
He really never made any period pictures. I'm dead.   |
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Post by snsurone on Oct 14, 2018 11:57:46 GMT
marianne, sex between men and menstruating women, even though married to each other, is unconditionally forbidden in the Bible.
See Leviticus 15.
During and for seven days after, a menstruating woman was "ritually impure" as was anything she sat or lay upon.
After seven days after her period ended, the wife took a ritual bath in a special pool called a "mikveh", and then she could resume sex with her husband.
This practice has pretty much disappeared in the US, except for ultra-Orthodox Jews.
But, you're right that menstruation was a hush-hush subject for many years.
Even my mother believed that it was a taboo subject when men were around.
And the physical and emotional sufferings of women were pooh-poohed as "being all in her mind"!
Thank goodness we live in a more enlightened age where sexuality and the human body can be freely discussed between the genders and that there are effective treatments available for menstrual problems.
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Post by louise on Oct 14, 2018 12:01:56 GMT
I had read somewhere that Alfred Hitchcock once directed an actress to go into the water during a beach scene from one of his movies, and she explained why she couldn't (tampons didn't exist at the time). Hitch was stunned; according to the article, he never knew that women menstruated! Uh, if I'm right, Hitchcock was married to Alma at the time. Wasn't he aware of her "monthly visitor"? And its correlation to the conception and birth of his daughter Pat? I can't believe that any adult, male or female, could be that ignorant! Speaking for myself, my "monthly visitor" departed for good about 14 years ago. And I don't miss it one whit!! It seems extremely improbable that a mature man would not have encountered a menstruating woman before. I find this story very unlikely. Someone who worked on films, with a lot of women around, would certainly have some idea of what was what. |
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Post by snsurone on Oct 14, 2018 13:41:31 GMT
He really never made any period pictures. I'm dead. Lebow, if I had teeth like that (your avatar), I'd be dead, too! |
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Post by amyghost on Oct 14, 2018 13:46:58 GMT
I had read somewhere that Alfred Hitchcock once directed an actress to go into the water during a beach scene from one of his movies, and she explained why she couldn't (tampons didn't exist at the time). Hitch was stunned; according to the article, he never knew that women menstruated! Uh, if I'm right, Hitchcock was married to Alma at the time. Wasn't he aware of her "monthly visitor"? And its correlation to the conception and birth of his daughter Pat? I can't believe that any adult, male or female, could be that ignorant! Speaking for myself, my "monthly visitor" departed for good about 14 years ago. And I don't miss it one whit!! It seems extremely improbable that a mature man would not have encountered a menstruating woman before. I find this story very unlikely. Someone who worked on films, with a lot of women around, would certainly have some idea of what was what. I'd imagine he had some notion of it, but probably no real knowledge of the, shall we say, mechanics involved. Not understanding why a woman wouldn't wish to go into the water during her period would likely be possible for an adult man of his era, even a married one, if no one had ever famaliarised him with any of the reasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 15:08:29 GMT
The film was The Pleasure Garden (1925) and the menstruating actress who refused to enter the water was German Elizabeth Pappritz.
"In later interviews, Hitchcock claimed to have been totally ignorant when it came to the workings of the female body and needed cameraman Ventimiglia to explain what the actress meant."
I'm pretty sure that his then-fiancé Alma Reville, who was Assistant Director for this film, gave him some private lessons with regard to the functioning of female bodies, afterwards.
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Post by Gubbio on Oct 14, 2018 15:40:38 GMT
And the physical and emotional sufferings of women were pooh-poohed as "being all in her mind"! Thank goodness we live in a more enlightened age where sexuality and the human body can be freely discussed between the genders and that there are effective treatments available for menstrual problems. Try telling that to Ricky Ricardo ! |
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Post by snsurone on Oct 14, 2018 16:09:33 GMT
Gubbio, I'd PUNCH it to Ricky Ricardo, if I had to!
;-)
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