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Post by Nora on Oct 14, 2018 1:56:50 GMT
so two characters get into some kind of conflict and one storms off/starts walking away. the other character calls their name, obviously desperate to fix it and says “wait” or “no, please dont go” “let me explain” etc
BUT THEN THEY DO NOTHING ELSE! they dont walk up to them, they dont try and catch up with them, they dont run after them, they are not calling their name over and over they just kinda give up right away. And just stand there watching the person walk away.
but you as a viewer know they are really serious about wanting to change the situation and you know they COULD if they only talked to the person (which they eventually do, 60 minutes later so we get the happy end).
but most of the time none of the drama would occur or unfold the way it does if they had only chased after them to begin with.
it bugs me to no end. and all would be better if they only showed two more attempts to catch up/talk to the person. but no. We get the non-chase standing there like a moron scene instead.
is anybody here as annoyed by these scenes in movies/shows as I am?
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 14, 2018 2:36:22 GMT
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Post by Nora on Oct 14, 2018 2:44:18 GMT
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Post by Johnny-Come-Lately on Oct 14, 2018 2:50:29 GMT
Then there's movies where the letting somebody else be free is better than having the chase.
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Post by Nora on Oct 14, 2018 3:25:27 GMT
Then there's movies where the letting somebody else be free is better than having the chase. yes sure if thats what the end of the movie is supposed to be i dont have a problem with someone not chasing after someone else. its where the movie does want them to reunite/work out the problem or they Could if they really tried whats bothers me. they are both there and perhaps talking it out it would solve everything and YET the person doesnt make a bigger efort other than calling their name once or twice or saying wait stop. but not running afther them or calling their mame again etc.. |
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Post by Johnny-Come-Lately on Oct 14, 2018 3:38:04 GMT
Then there's movies where the letting somebody else be free is better than having the chase. yes sure if thats what the end of the movie is supposed to be i dont have a problem with someone not chasing after someone else. its where the movie does want them to reunite/work out the problem or they Could if they really tried whats bothers me. they are both there and perhaps talking it out it would solve everything and YET the person doesnt make a bigger efort other than calling their name once or twice or saying wait stop. but not running afther them or calling their mame again etc.. A lot of romantic films would be short films then. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 14, 2018 3:43:47 GMT
Hadn't really thought about it. It would probably depend on how it was done in the context of the rest of the film.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 14, 2018 13:26:03 GMT
Like the 3rd act breakup? Yeah the rom-coms of the 90s and 2000s really did that to death.
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Post by Nora on Oct 14, 2018 15:30:32 GMT
Like the 3rd act breakup? Yeah the rom-coms of the 90s and 2000s really did that to death. no i mean ANY situation in ANY movie where characters have some argument and one walks away abruptly from the other one. may be rom com may be drama may be action movie, doesn't matter, its done fairly often. and my problem is not that they instal this mechanism in the movie, but that they portray it so stupidly, whereas the person that doesn't walk away just calls their name once and says something like wait, dont, no. but doesn't even take a step further to go after them, and doesn't say anything else, just kinda stands there watch them go. in my world (and it may be just mine, sure) where you truly want to stop someone from walking away you try a bit harder. at least verbally, if not full on chase after them or at least take a few more steps toward them. next time you see such a scene you will know exactly what i mean. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 14, 2018 22:55:03 GMT
so two characters get into some kind of conflict and one storms off/starts walking away. the other character calls their name, obviously desperate to fix it and says “wait” or “no, please dont go” “let me explain” etc BUT THEN THEY DO NOTHING ELSE! they dont walk up to them, they dont try and catch up with them, they dont run after them, they are not calling their name over and over they just kinda give up right away. And just stand there watching the person walk away. but you as a viewer know they are really serious about wanting to change the situation and you know they COULD if they only talked to the person (which they eventually do, 60 minutes later so we get the happy end). but most of the time none of the drama would occur or unfold the way it does if they had only chased after them to begin with. it bugs me to no end. and all would be better if they only showed two more attempts to catch up/talk to the person. but no. We get the non-chase standing there like a moron scene instead. is anybody here as annoyed by these scenes in movies/shows as I am? I tried what you said a few weeks ago and the girl got weirded out and later used the word "scared". So I think these movie characters were right to just let them walk away. |
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Post by Nora on Oct 14, 2018 23:15:40 GMT
so two characters get into some kind of conflict and one storms off/starts walking away. the other character calls their name, obviously desperate to fix it and says “wait” or “no, please dont go” “let me explain” etc BUT THEN THEY DO NOTHING ELSE! they dont walk up to them, they dont try and catch up with them, they dont run after them, they are not calling their name over and over they just kinda give up right away. And just stand there watching the person walk away. but you as a viewer know they are really serious about wanting to change the situation and you know they COULD if they only talked to the person (which they eventually do, 60 minutes later so we get the happy end). but most of the time none of the drama would occur or unfold the way it does if they had only chased after them to begin with. it bugs me to no end. and all would be better if they only showed two more attempts to catch up/talk to the person. but no. We get the non-chase standing there like a moron scene instead. is anybody here as annoyed by these scenes in movies/shows as I am? I tried what you said a few weeks ago and the girl got weirded out and later used the word "scared". So I think these movie characters were right to just let them walk away. i guess it depends on how well you know the person and what kind of a person they are and how you decide to pursue them as they are walking away. i can see it backfiring yes. but i think a lot of things we do in real life under stress or in the heat of the moment backfire. but in the movies its so half-assed, like they are not even trying that hard to change their mind. good example is in the pilot of God Friended Me. the daughter walking away and the mother doing nothing. phff. |
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Post by Nora on Oct 15, 2018 1:14:51 GMT
Everything about Tootsie is spot on. It was the best picture of 82' as far as I'm concerned. Not Gandhi, nor E.T. It also has terrific replay value. absolutelly! Its a real gem. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 2:05:36 GMT
Then there's movies where the letting somebody else be free is better than having the chase. Double score because it also has one of the all time foot-chase scenes. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 15, 2018 3:23:52 GMT
Nora, you're failing to understand that those scenes are done that way for the dramatic effect. The point is that the scene is over. The moment has passed. Every thing that needs to be said in that moment has been said. They've reached an impasse. They're at a stand off. In order for the characters to have a resolution other events need to play out, so cut to next scene... Its the story following where the drama goes.
If character A just followed character B then the scene would just go on. In real life arguments can last hours! But in movie drama time they just don't have the time. While watching a movie we all instinctively know that.
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Post by Nora on Oct 15, 2018 23:35:23 GMT
Nora, you're failing to understand that those scenes are done that way for the dramatic effect. The point is that the scene is over. The moment has passed. Every thing that needs to be said in that moment has been said. They've reached an impasse. They're at a stand off. In order for the characters to have a resolution other events need to play out, so cut to next scene... Its the story following where the drama goes.
If character A just followed character B then the scene would just go on. In real life arguments can last hours! But in movie drama time they just don't have the time. While watching a movie we all instinctively know that.
:-D I do understand the point of those scenes I just think most of the time they are poorly done. I dont insist that character B always or at all catches up with character A but merely makes further attempt - something that would resemble real life more in a situation when they really are desperate to talk to the person... kinda like “do it like u mean it” |
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Post by maxwellperfect on Oct 16, 2018 14:27:22 GMT
It doesn't really bother me.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 16, 2018 14:32:41 GMT
Offhand I can't really picture an example of what you're talking about (I'm sure I've seen plenty of scenes like that, I just can't remember specific examples well enough). But it seems related to something else that annoys me: when there's a misunderstanding, or some kind of personal conflict, etc., and people won't just straightforwardly explain things.
As a matter of fact, that bugs me in real life, too. lol
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Post by Nora on Oct 16, 2018 15:41:05 GMT
Offhand I can't really picture an example of what you're talking about (I'm sure I've seen plenty of scenes like that, I just can't remember specific examples well enough). But it seems related to something else that annoys me: when there's a misunderstanding, or some kind of personal conflict, etc., and people won't just straightforwardly explain things. As a matter of fact, that bugs me in real life, too. lol yes! thats often connected actually! the person doesnt explain soemthing that could be easily explained, if they either tried or the other person prompted them. but they dont and often walk away and the other person didnt prompt them to explain and didnt try to stop them/catch up with them or anything. super annoying. but it could be great if done well. |
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Post by mecano04 on Oct 16, 2018 22:01:29 GMT
Offhand I can't really picture an example of what you're talking about (I'm sure I've seen plenty of scenes like that, I just can't remember specific examples well enough). But it seems related to something else that annoys me: when there's a misunderstanding, or some kind of personal conflict, etc., and people won't just straightforwardly explain things. As a matter of fact, that bugs me in real life, too. lol yes! thats often connected actually! the person doesnt explain soemthing that could be easily explained, if they either tried or the other person prompted them. but they dont and often walk away and the other person didnt prompt them to explain and didnt try to stop them/catch up with them or anything. super annoying. but it could be great if done well. Sounds like this:
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Post by mecano04 on Oct 16, 2018 22:30:43 GMT
If you allow some life experience episodes, I had one of those no more than 2 weeks ago with a co-worker, at work. And I would say, the reason I didn't ran after her is because I was met with barrage of "I'm sorry", at times as I was mid sentence and despite being told to lay it on her, she just kept cutting me with those "I'm sorry". I may be wrong but if someone tells you to lay it on him/her yet cuts you with a barrage of words, it seems that person doesn't really want to hear it or face it. And if that person doesn't want to hear it or face it, we can't find a solution or a middle ground, so there is no point in trying to chase that person to talk some more. Since then, I keep my interactions with her at the functional level and nothing more. I'm not gonna include the others (coworkers) in that or even mess up the whole atmosphere. I do things in a way that things keep going smoothly on a global level but that's it.
Maybe it's poorly shown on written in some movies but maybe that what some try to portray.
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